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All Blacks 2023

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    #2396

    But despite the partnership, NZ Rugby won't relax the overseas selection policy for All Blacks, which will remain in place.

    Under the policy, players must reside and play in New Zealand, should they wish to be eligible for higher honours.

    Incoming All Blacks coach Scott Robertson has previously stated he is keen to ditch the rule and would make that clear to NZR boss Mark Robinson.

    His admission comes after Beauden Barrett, Brodie Retallick, Aaron Smith, Richie Mo'unga, and Shannon Frizell all signed contracts to play in Japan from next season.

    Ardie Savea will also be ineligible for the All Blacks in 2024 after a one-year sabbatical to also play in Japan, as part of his new NZ Rugby contract.

    But despite the incoming exodus of veteran players, Robinson has revealed there are no plans to change the existing rule.

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/05/rugby-nz-rugby-won-t-change-overseas-selection-policy-despite-new-japan-agreement.html

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    • DuluthD Duluth

      @Chris Yes it’s good that Robinson trumps Robertson on this issue

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      @Duluth

      100% agree. I would hate to see us pick overseas players, it is a bad road to go down for our SR and NPC competitions.

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      • StargazerS Stargazer

        @Duluth No, he hasn't. He has said he's open to the discussion.

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        @Stargazer said in All Blacks 2023:

        @Duluth No, he hasn't. He has said he's open to the discussion.

        Then close it down

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        • ChrisC Chris

          But despite the partnership, NZ Rugby won't relax the overseas selection policy for All Blacks, which will remain in place.

          Under the policy, players must reside and play in New Zealand, should they wish to be eligible for higher honours.

          Incoming All Blacks coach Scott Robertson has previously stated he is keen to ditch the rule and would make that clear to NZR boss Mark Robinson.

          His admission comes after Beauden Barrett, Brodie Retallick, Aaron Smith, Richie Mo'unga, and Shannon Frizell all signed contracts to play in Japan from next season.

          Ardie Savea will also be ineligible for the All Blacks in 2024 after a one-year sabbatical to also play in Japan, as part of his new NZ Rugby contract.

          But despite the incoming exodus of veteran players, Robinson has revealed there are no plans to change the existing rule.

          https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/05/rugby-nz-rugby-won-t-change-overseas-selection-policy-despite-new-japan-agreement.html

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          @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

          Incoming All Blacks coach Scott Robertson has previously stated he is keen to ditch the rule and would make that clear to NZR boss Mark Robinson.

          Coaching Jesus needs to do better than that.

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          • boobooB booboo

            @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

            Incoming All Blacks coach Scott Robertson has previously stated he is keen to ditch the rule and would make that clear to NZR boss Mark Robinson.

            Coaching Jesus needs to do better than that.

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            @booboo

            I am sure he will,I have the faith.

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            • boobooB booboo

              @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

              Incoming All Blacks coach Scott Robertson has previously stated he is keen to ditch the rule and would make that clear to NZR boss Mark Robinson.

              Coaching Jesus needs to do better than that.

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              @booboo said in All Blacks 2023:

              @Chris said in All Blacks 2023:

              Incoming All Blacks coach Scott Robertson has previously stated he is keen to ditch the rule and would make that clear to NZR boss Mark Robinson.

              Coaching Jesus needs to do better than that.

              Then best to check back after Easter.

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                The RWC top turned up for my daughter. The squiggly designs really suit the kids gear. She turns 11 this year but I bought size 9-10 and it fits perfectly. Just need to get tickets now but already half resigned to watching in fanzone, pub or bar.

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                • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                  The RWC top turned up for my daughter. The squiggly designs really suit the kids gear. She turns 11 this year but I bought size 9-10 and it fits perfectly. Just need to get tickets now but already half resigned to watching in fanzone, pub or bar.

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                  #2403

                  @Billy-Tell yeah don't think I'm going to bother with attending games except for maybe minnows due to price. But might be keen to pop on the train to Lille to watch at a fanzone, you reminded me to check what's about in that regard.

                  Found this bloody neat site, whilst it doesn't mention if games will be shown it appears bloody useful at first glance (fan guides to all the "rugby villages").

                  https://www.therugbyjournal.com/rwc2023

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                    BerniesCorner
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                    Special thanks to Schmidt, Ryan, Lomax, De Groot and JB for bringing hope to the fern. Should be a cracker couple of months.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/jordie-barrett-details-physical-transformation-for-midfield-switch/

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                      @Tim I too played 12 and put on 17 kgs in my 20's. How come I never got a call up?

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                      • dogmeatD dogmeat

                        @Tim I too played 12 and put on 17 kgs in my 20's. How come I never got a call up?

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                        @dogmeat said in All Blacks 2023:

                        @Tim I too played 12 and put on 17 kgs in my 20's. How come I never got a call up?

                        Weight from pies and beer doesn’t count

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                          #2407

                          With Frizell out for the first couple of games, injury has once again given Foster a chance to get his selections right. Perfect opportunity to drop a wing and bring in an extra loosie now.

                          https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2023/08/rugby-world-cup-standout-flanker-shannon-frizell-likely-to-miss-start-of-tournament-due-to-injury.html

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                            well there you fucking go. you gambled and you're losing. 4 locks and 5 loosies and you're down 2 early doors already.

                            Looks like @ACT-Crusader was right, LF to blindside for the France game.

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                              The final squad submission isn't until August 28. They still can drop a wing now, it's not too late.

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                                Wouldn't you have to ask someone to step down? Or deselct themself? Can't really say see you to an uninjured wainger for a loosie could you.
                                Mind you, a wing that can be got shot of can get full test against Boks, and maybe an injury?

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                                  Wouldn't you have to ask someone to step down? Or deselct themself? Can't really say see you to an uninjured wainger for a loosie could you.
                                  Mind you, a wing that can be got shot of can get full test against Boks, and maybe an injury?

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                                  @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  Wouldn't you have to ask someone to step down? Or deselct themself? Can't really say see you to an uninjured wainger for a loosie could you.

                                  The original selection was a huge fuck up wasn't it. I might be wrong but I thought until the final RWC squad submission is made, they can still make changes.

                                  It's fucking hard and unfair on the outside back who has to be dropped though, and for that reason I don't think Foster will do it.

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                                    I don't think a decision will be made until after the SA test because if any serious injury occurred in that game another change is required.

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                                      It's a real pisser because Foster didn't select a ready-made like for like replacement in Finau or select an extra lock because it so important to have five wingers for training or something.

                                      Barrett has to stay at lock, which probably means Jacobsen to 6.

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                                        @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        Wouldn't you have to ask someone to step down? Or deselct themself? Can't really say see you to an uninjured wainger for a loosie could you.

                                        The original selection was a huge fuck up wasn't it. I might be wrong but I thought until the final RWC squad submission is made, they can still make changes.

                                        It's fucking hard and unfair on the outside back who has to be dropped though, and for that reason I don't think Foster will do it.

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                                        @akan004 said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        Wouldn't you have to ask someone to step down? Or deselct themself? Can't really say see you to an uninjured wainger for a loosie could you.

                                        The original selection was a huge fuck up wasn't it. I might be wrong but I thought until the final RWC squad submission is made, they can still make changes.

                                        It's fucking hard and unfair on the outside back who has to be dropped though, and for that reason I don't think Foster will do it.

                                        Well personally I hope he doesn't do it, if Frizell looks too iffy and Finau has a ripper against Boks, he will just replace Frizzell. And if Finau doesn't kill it against Boks we will be happy he not there perhaps? In meantime Jacobson is ok as replacement.

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                                          They love Frizell they won't drop him if he's iffy. Jacobson to 6 vs France is most likely.

                                          Can't see Foz rocking the boat and dropping a winger.

                                          Dopey selection to begin with.

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