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All Blacks 2023

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  • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

    There's been significant technical improvement in set piece and ball retention in the tackle.

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2023:

    There's been significant technical improvement in set piece and ball retention in the tackle.

    I think Ryan has made a difference there, and seems to have forwards going better than maybe Plumtree did? But it quite hard to judge , also I think it was always in last year that any coach would start to really show hands. I just happy with way team has progressed anyway, and from where I sitting and what I have seen it hard to say what and where exact details have changed.

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      As a serial Foster basher, for all the crap he got (deservedly so in my book), he now deserves the credit for assembling a team that seems to be well-coached. It can't go just one way. Foster, Schmitt, and Ryan are giving us a team that is soooo far from the headless chook, directionless days of 2020, 2021, and early 2022.

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      • O Old Samurai Jack

        As a serial Foster basher, for all the crap he got (deservedly so in my book), he now deserves the credit for assembling a team that seems to be well-coached. It can't go just one way. Foster, Schmitt, and Ryan are giving us a team that is soooo far from the headless chook, directionless days of 2020, 2021, and early 2022.

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        @Old-Samurai-Jack

        Yeah fair call from another Foster kicker, he does deserve some credit.

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        • O Old Samurai Jack

          As a serial Foster basher, for all the crap he got (deservedly so in my book), he now deserves the credit for assembling a team that seems to be well-coached. It can't go just one way. Foster, Schmitt, and Ryan are giving us a team that is soooo far from the headless chook, directionless days of 2020, 2021, and early 2022.

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          @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2023:

          As a serial Foster basher, for all the crap he got (deservedly so in my book), he now deserves the credit for assembling a team that seems to be well-coached. It can't go just one way. Foster, Schmitt, and Ryan are giving us a team that is soooo far from the headless chook, directionless days of 2020, 2021, and early 2022.

          If we're being honest that team was imposed on him when the NZRFU got rid of the previous assistants

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          • canefanC canefan

            @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2023:

            As a serial Foster basher, for all the crap he got (deservedly so in my book), he now deserves the credit for assembling a team that seems to be well-coached. It can't go just one way. Foster, Schmitt, and Ryan are giving us a team that is soooo far from the headless chook, directionless days of 2020, 2021, and early 2022.

            If we're being honest that team was imposed on him when the NZRFU got rid of the previous assistants

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            @canefan although the team he took on in 2020 wasnt his first choice either...

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              Good to see they are having some fun this year.
              I think the criticism of management / NZR was justified. Pre WC AB fan frustration boiled over.
              Hopeful simmer at the moment.

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                I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

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                • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                  I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

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                  @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

                  I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit from Ireland…

                  FIFY coz we all know those bums are cursed at RWCs

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                  • Dan54D Dan54

                    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2023:

                    There's been significant technical improvement in set piece and ball retention in the tackle.

                    I think Ryan has made a difference there, and seems to have forwards going better than maybe Plumtree did? But it quite hard to judge , also I think it was always in last year that any coach would start to really show hands. I just happy with way team has progressed anyway, and from where I sitting and what I have seen it hard to say what and where exact details have changed.

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                    @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                    I think Ryan has made a difference there, and seems to have forwards going better than maybe Plumtree did? But it quite hard to judge

                    I'd say it's night and day.

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                    • canefanC canefan

                      @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2023:

                      As a serial Foster basher, for all the crap he got (deservedly so in my book), he now deserves the credit for assembling a team that seems to be well-coached. It can't go just one way. Foster, Schmitt, and Ryan are giving us a team that is soooo far from the headless chook, directionless days of 2020, 2021, and early 2022.

                      If we're being honest that team was imposed on him when the NZRFU got rid of the previous assistants

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                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2023:

                      If we're being honest that team was imposed on him when the NZRFU got rid of the previous assistants

                      "Imposed on him"? He always wanted Schmidt as Assistant Coach and has made that clear (can't be arsed to google it yet again).

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                      • antipodeanA antipodean

                        @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                        I think Ryan has made a difference there, and seems to have forwards going better than maybe Plumtree did? But it quite hard to judge

                        I'd say it's night and day.

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                        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2023:

                        @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                        I think Ryan has made a difference there, and seems to have forwards going better than maybe Plumtree did? But it quite hard to judge

                        I'd say it's night and day.

                        I don't think they are going forward better than under Plumtree, but they are doing it for more than 20% of the game and not making the stupid, serial dumb mistakes which handed momentum back to the opposition we've seen in the past.

                        Huge improvement and kudos to Ryan.

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                        • O Old Samurai Jack

                          As a serial Foster basher, for all the crap he got (deservedly so in my book), he now deserves the credit for assembling a team that seems to be well-coached. It can't go just one way. Foster, Schmitt, and Ryan are giving us a team that is soooo far from the headless chook, directionless days of 2020, 2021, and early 2022.

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                          @Old-Samurai-Jack

                          My view has been Foster inherited a pile of poo from Hansen and NZ Rugby has fallen behind other countries in developing players and a pipeline for the national team. Wasn't convinced he was the cause of all the ills and another Head Coach would deliver nirvana but neither was I convinced Foster was the bloke to turn it around either

                          Thought he should have gone after Ireland III and was appalled at the way he was treated by NZR, but he clearly had the confidence of the players in spades.

                          Early days, but it looks like different team and Foster - equally with Ryan, Schmidt, McLeod and the players - deserve a lot of credit

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                          • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                            I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

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                            @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

                            I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

                            I’m not predicting anything, but feel anxious towards that game already .

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                            • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                              @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

                              I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

                              I’m not predicting anything, but feel anxious towards that game already .

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                              @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2023:

                              @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

                              I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

                              I’m not predicting anything, but feel anxious towards that game already .

                              I have nightmares about us cruising into the semis and deciding to fuck about with the 6 jersey. Again.

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                              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2023:

                                @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

                                I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

                                I’m not predicting anything, but feel anxious towards that game already .

                                I have nightmares about us cruising into the semis and deciding to fuck about with the 6 jersey. Again.

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                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:

                                @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2023:

                                @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

                                I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

                                I’m not predicting anything, but feel anxious towards that game already .

                                I have nightmares about us cruising into the semis and deciding to fuck about with the 6 jersey. Again.

                                6 is the new 13

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                                • antipodeanA antipodean

                                  @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  I think Ryan has made a difference there, and seems to have forwards going better than maybe Plumtree did? But it quite hard to judge

                                  I'd say it's night and day.

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                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  I think Ryan has made a difference there, and seems to have forwards going better than maybe Plumtree did? But it quite hard to judge

                                  I'd say it's night and day.

                                  I wiill admit to being a Ryan fan, he even looks like a forward coach to me!

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                                      @pakman

                                      I like his analysis, but find him unfunny and his accent sucks.

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                                        @pakman

                                        I like his analysis, but find him unfunny and his accent sucks.

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                                        @Frank said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        @pakman

                                        I like his analysis, but find him unfunny and his accent sucks.

                                        I tend to think he regularly sees patterns where there are none, plus he is offensively ugly. The unfathomable ugliness makes it worth watching until the end, though.

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                                        • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                          I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

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                                          @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

                                          I like your confidence that you’ll beat France

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