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All Blacks 2023

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  • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

    I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

    I’m not predicting anything, but feel anxious towards that game already .

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    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2023:

    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

    I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

    I’m not predicting anything, but feel anxious towards that game already .

    I have nightmares about us cruising into the semis and deciding to fuck about with the 6 jersey. Again.

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    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

      @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2023:

      @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

      I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

      I’m not predicting anything, but feel anxious towards that game already .

      I have nightmares about us cruising into the semis and deciding to fuck about with the 6 jersey. Again.

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      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2023:

      @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2023:

      @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

      I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

      I’m not predicting anything, but feel anxious towards that game already .

      I have nightmares about us cruising into the semis and deciding to fuck about with the 6 jersey. Again.

      6 is the new 13

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      • antipodeanA antipodean

        @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

        I think Ryan has made a difference there, and seems to have forwards going better than maybe Plumtree did? But it quite hard to judge

        I'd say it's night and day.

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        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2023:

        @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2023:

        I think Ryan has made a difference there, and seems to have forwards going better than maybe Plumtree did? But it quite hard to judge

        I'd say it's night and day.

        I wiill admit to being a Ryan fan, he even looks like a forward coach to me!

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            @pakman

            I like his analysis, but find him unfunny and his accent sucks.

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              @pakman

              I like his analysis, but find him unfunny and his accent sucks.

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              @Frank said in All Blacks 2023:

              @pakman

              I like his analysis, but find him unfunny and his accent sucks.

              I tend to think he regularly sees patterns where there are none, plus he is offensively ugly. The unfathomable ugliness makes it worth watching until the end, though.

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              • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

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                @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

                I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

                I like your confidence that you’ll beat France

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                • SmutsS Smuts

                  @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

                  I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

                  I like your confidence that you’ll beat France

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                  @Smuts said in All Blacks 2023:

                  @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

                  I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

                  I like your confidence that you’ll beat France

                  ? We’re not losing to Italy so regardless of the French we’ll be in the ¼ finals. Whether that is you guys, Ireland or Scotland only time will tell….

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                  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                    @Smuts said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

                    I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

                    I like your confidence that you’ll beat France

                    ? We’re not losing to Italy so regardless of the French we’ll be in the ¼ finals. Whether that is you guys, Ireland or Scotland only time will tell….

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                    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @Smuts said in All Blacks 2023:

                    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

                    I’m reserving judgement. A ¼ final exit to Ireland…

                    I like your confidence that you’ll beat France

                    ? We’re not losing to Italy so regardless of the French we’ll be in the ¼ finals. Whether that is you guys, Ireland or Scotland only time will tell….

                    Fair point. It could be either the Scots or the mick who qualify for QF4.

                    I admire your confidence that you’ll beat France and that the Irish will beat the Scots.

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                      Jacobson an absolute lightweight at this level

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                        Jacobson an absolute lightweight at this level

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                        @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2023:

                        Jacobson an absolute lightweight at this level

                        That’s why I’m glad he played and not finau. We have the proof. There is still time to change the 33. And they should.

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                        • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                          @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2023:

                          Jacobson an absolute lightweight at this level

                          That’s why I’m glad he played and not finau. We have the proof. There is still time to change the 33. And they should.

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                          @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks 2023:

                          @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2023:

                          Jacobson an absolute lightweight at this level

                          That’s why I’m glad he played and not finau. We have the proof. There is still time to change the 33. And they should.

                          This is Foster. Fat chance of him dropping anyone from the original selection. He's too loyal and stupid to make the tough calls.

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                            Not really sure where to put this, but we are going to be seriously light at lock in the first couple of years after the World Cup. Scooter will be there, and hopefully Lord keeps improving, but I'm unsure Vaa'i will ever be the answer at test level.

                            The next tier (Strange, Walker-Leawere, Dunshea, Parkinson & Tuipulotu) don't fill me with any joy either. Holland is an All Black in waiting, but don't think he is available until EOYT 2025. Will be interesting to see what happens there.

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                              What would I change for France? I’d bring McKenzie in at 15 ahead of BB. We are stuck for a centre on the bench unless we really think Leicester can cover centre. Forwards Taylor in, frizzell in.

                              Other than that we can’t really change the cattle. Discipline, knowing how to win a scrum and lineout, territory and exits are fixable.

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                              • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                What would I change for France? I’d bring McKenzie in at 15 ahead of BB. We are stuck for a centre on the bench unless we really think Leicester can cover centre. Forwards Taylor in, frizzell in.

                                Other than that we can’t really change the cattle. Discipline, knowing how to win a scrum and lineout, territory and exits are fixable.

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                                @Billy-Tell

                                On tonight’s evidence things to fix: scrums, lineouts, handling, positional play against the kick and game management by the senior players.

                                Those are big things to fix just before a RWC.

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                                  @Billy-Tell

                                  On tonight’s evidence things to fix: scrums, lineouts, handling, positional play against the kick and game management by the senior players.

                                  Those are big things to fix just before a RWC.

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                                  @sparky said in All Blacks 2023:

                                  @Billy-Tell

                                  On tonight’s evidence things to fix: scrums, lineouts, handling, positional play against the kick and game management by the senior players.

                                  Those are big things to fix just before a RWC.

                                  Think you could cover the first two by saying we played the majority of that game without Barrett, and Lord went early + Taylor also not there... on that last point, the fact it wasn't a meaningful game probably explains a portion of it.

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                                    @Billy-Tell

                                    On tonight’s evidence things to fix: scrums, lineouts, handling, positional play against the kick and game management by the senior players.

                                    Those are big things to fix just before a RWC.

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                                    @sparky said in All Blacks 2023:

                                    @Billy-Tell

                                    On tonight’s evidence things to fix: scrums, lineouts, handling, positional play against the kick and game management by the senior players.

                                    Those are big things to fix just before a RWC.

                                    I’ve lost all optimism tbh. I actually think we can beat France. But not the matches that matter. That was extremely impressive from SA. All the ingredients to win a RWC on display.

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                                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2023:

                                      @Billy-Tell

                                      On tonight’s evidence things to fix: scrums, lineouts, handling, positional play against the kick and game management by the senior players.

                                      Those are big things to fix just before a RWC.

                                      Think you could cover the first two by saying we played the majority of that game without Barrett, and Lord went early + Taylor also not there... on that last point, the fact it wasn't a meaningful game probably explains a portion of it.

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                                      @frugby We looked shaky in those areas when Barrett was on the field. We can’t expect to avoid cards in the whole of the RWC. Cards are part of Rugby now.

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                                      • sparkyS sparky

                                        @frugby We looked shaky in those areas when Barrett was on the field. We can’t expect to avoid cards in the whole of the RWC. Cards are part of Rugby now.

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                                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2023:

                                        @frugby We looked shaky in those areas when Barrett was on the field. We can’t expect to avoid cards in the whole of the RWC. Cards are part of Rugby now.

                                        Barrett was only on the field for what 28 minutes of that game? Scrum seemed to hold early on? Thought Coles throwing was an issue in the first half, whereas Taukei'aho simply had nobody to throw to/poor calls.

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                                        • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                                          @sparky said in All Blacks 2023:

                                          @Billy-Tell

                                          On tonight’s evidence things to fix: scrums, lineouts, handling, positional play against the kick and game management by the senior players.

                                          Those are big things to fix just before a RWC.

                                          I’ve lost all optimism tbh. I actually think we can beat France. But not the matches that matter. That was extremely impressive from SA. All the ingredients to win a RWC on display.

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                                          @Billy-Tell I think the scrum is the absolute key for us. The whole game plan relies on dominance or at least advantage there. South Africa turned the tables on us in that area tonight. Will other sides be able to do the same?

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