All Blacks 2023
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This discussion has gone a little bit off the rails. No way Roigard should be starting over Smith, and especially not based on coming on in a losing match and a match against Namibia.
2nd halfback over the Ginga? Hell yes. Starting over Smith. Fucking absurd.
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I'd agree with starting Smith, but precisely because we have seen so little of Roigard in big games.
Instead we risked our number 1, with no real back-up, in every major game. It's madness. The lack of any planning for something bad happening infuriates me.
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Has Mrs Roigard ever met Carlos Spencer?
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Has Mrs Roigard ever met Carlos Spencer?
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2023:
Has Mrs Roigard ever met Carlos Spencer?
funny think his father played in the front row whose nickname was tubby
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This discussion has gone a little bit off the rails. No way Roigard should be starting over Smith, and especially not based on coming on in a losing match and a match against Namibia.
2nd halfback over the Ginga? Hell yes. Starting over Smith. Fucking absurd.
@Nepia said in All Blacks 2023:
This discussion has gone a little bit off the rails. No way Roigard should be starting over Smith, and especially not based on coming on in a losing match and a match against Namibia.
2nd halfback over the Ginga? Hell yes. Starting over Smith. Fucking absurd.
Who do you think looked the better HB in these 2 matches. And did you ever watch Roigard closely in SRP. His kicking is far and away better than Smith. And maybe his running game too. But experience. I would always take the better player when one has key qualities that the other lacks.
But not to worry because Foster
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Team I’d be looking to play Italy. Obviously a lot of players will need to be assessed for injuries before it’s named.
1 Ofa T
2 Taylor
3 Lomax
4 Retallick
5 S Barrett
6 Frizell
7 Cane
8 A Savea
9 A Smith
10 Mo’unga
11 Telea
12 J. Barrett
13 R. Ioane
14. W. Jordan
15. B. BarrettSami T, Williams, Newell, Whitelock, Papalii, Roigard, DMac, Leicester F
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@Mattasaurus said in All Blacks 2023:
BODs on to it..
https://www.balls.ie/rugby/brian-odriscoll-pinpoints-major-new-zealand-selection-issue-570478I was watching the game on ITV4 and they highlighted him as someone not playing well before the game.
I was thinking the Beauden Barrett we know and love would have least got one try against that mob last night.
We have no cutting edge on the 15 shirt anymore.
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Team I’d be looking to play Italy. Obviously a lot of players will need to be assessed for injuries before it’s named.
1 Ofa T
2 Taylor
3 Lomax
4 Retallick
5 S Barrett
6 Frizell
7 Cane
8 A Savea
9 A Smith
10 Mo’unga
11 Telea
12 J. Barrett
13 R. Ioane
14. W. Jordan
15. B. BarrettSami T, Williams, Newell, Whitelock, Papalii, Roigard, DMac, Leicester F
@sparky said in All Blacks 2023:
Team I’d be looking to play Italy. Obviously a lot of players will need to be assessed for injuries before it’s named.
1 Ofa T
2 Taylor
3 Lomax
4 Retallick
5 S Barrett
6 Frizell
7 Cane
8 A Savea
9 A Smith
10 Mo’unga
11 Telea
12 J. Barrett
13 R. Ioane
14. W. Jordan
15. B. BarrettSami T, Williams, Newell, Whitelock, Papalii, Roigard, DMac, Leicester F
Fucking LOL Ofa, slow beaudy, jezuswhy?
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- EDG
- Samisoni
- Lomax
- Barrett
- Whitelock/Retallick
- Frizzel
- Blackadder
- Savea
- Smith
- McKenzie
- Telea
- Barrett
- Ioane
- Fainganuku
- Jordan
Taylor/Coles, whoever - props are shit, Whitelock/Retallick, Cane, Dalton, Mounga, Roigard.
@reprobate EDG is certain not to be available.
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@reprobate EDG is certain not to be available.
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2023:
Team I’d be looking to play Italy. Obviously a lot of players will need to be assessed for injuries before it’s named.
1 Ofa T
2 Taylor
3 Lomax
4 Retallick
5 S Barrett
6 Frizell
7 Cane
8 A Savea
9 A Smith
10 Mo’unga
11 Telea
12 J. Barrett
13 R. Ioane
14. W. Jordan
15. B. BarrettSami T, Williams, Newell, Whitelock, Papalii, Roigard, DMac, Leicester F
Fucking LOL Ofa, slow beaudy, jezuswhy?
@Machpants Ofa T had a good game last night.
I can’t see Foster picking anyone but BB at fullback. He’s not a bad player but he is not the phenomenon he was 7 or 8 years ago. Something went wrong after he left the Canes.
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@sparky yeah i know. hopefully QF (in hope that he gets 2 games off). couldn't really be arsed thinking about props because i'm not exactly stoked with our back-up props. the old ones look shit and the new ones look like it's too early.
@reprobate I think our props will be fine against Italy.
Against South Africa or Ireland? That’s more of a problem.
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@Machpants Ofa T had a good game last night.
I can’t see Foster picking anyone but BB at fullback. He’s not a bad player but he is not the phenomenon he was 7 or 8 years ago. Something went wrong after he left the Canes.
@sparky Ofa gave away multiple penalties. sure he dominated the Namibian scrum, and you can only play who you're up against - but that's not much to write home about.
I don't really understand why Beauden played this game. I was thinking it was either Foster trying to get his confidence back, or maybe he is going to drop him. The latter is probably just wishful thinking though as it would be pretty bizarre given Jordan just played his worst game in black and McKenzie hasn't been given bugger all time at 15. -
@Machpants Ofa T had a good game last night.
I can’t see Foster picking anyone but BB at fullback. He’s not a bad player but he is not the phenomenon he was 7 or 8 years ago. Something went wrong after he left the Canes.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants Ofa T had a good game last night.
I can’t see Foster picking anyone but BB at fullback. He’s not a bad player but he is not the phenomenon he was 7 or 8 years ago. Something went wrong after he left the Canes.
1m run, 2 turn overs, couple of penalties. And fuck all else, no Ofa (apart from his cool SBW pass) was shit
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@Machpants Ofa T had a good game last night.
I can’t see Foster picking anyone but BB at fullback. He’s not a bad player but he is not the phenomenon he was 7 or 8 years ago. Something went wrong after he left the Canes.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2023:
@Machpants Ofa T had a good game last night.
He did, and you'd expect Groot to be stood down.
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BB is really off his game and has been for a long time. The problems at the Blues replicate themselves at the ABs when he is playing. Was a great player but now is trying too hard and involving himself too much to the detriment of the ABs. It was time to move on 2 seasons ago.
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- EDG
- Samisoni
- Lomax
- Barrett
- Whitelock/Retallick
- Frizzel
- Blackadder
- Savea
- Smith
- McKenzie
- Telea
- Barrett
- Ioane
- Fainganuku
- Jordan
Taylor/Coles, whoever - props are shit, Whitelock/Retallick, Cane, Dalton, Mounga, Roigard.
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2023:
- EDG
- Samisoni
- Lomax
- Barrett
- Whitelock/Retallick
- Frizzel
- Blackadder
- Savea
- Smith
- McKenzie
- Telea
- Barrett
- Ioane
- Fainganuku
- Jordan
Taylor/Coles, whoever - props are shit, Whitelock/Retallick, Cane, Dalton, Mounga, Roigard.
What is this tripe?
A prop likely to be suspended, another still injured. A 7 that’s not really a 7, an injured 6.
A new 10, and playing LF on the right.
A bench with 2 x 7’s but no midfield or outside backs
I have zero idea what this post is trying to say
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@reprobate said in All Blacks 2023:
- EDG
- Samisoni
- Lomax
- Barrett
- Whitelock/Retallick
- Frizzel
- Blackadder
- Savea
- Smith
- McKenzie
- Telea
- Barrett
- Ioane
- Fainganuku
- Jordan
Taylor/Coles, whoever - props are shit, Whitelock/Retallick, Cane, Dalton, Mounga, Roigard.
What is this tripe?
A prop likely to be suspended, another still injured. A 7 that’s not really a 7, an injured 6.
A new 10, and playing LF on the right.
A bench with 2 x 7’s but no midfield or outside backs
I have zero idea what this post is trying to say
@voodoo said in All Blacks 2023:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2023:
- EDG
- Samisoni
- Lomax
- Barrett
- Whitelock/Retallick
- Frizzel
- Blackadder
- Savea
- Smith
- McKenzie
- Telea
- Barrett
- Ioane
- Fainganuku
- Jordan
Taylor/Coles, whoever - props are shit, Whitelock/Retallick, Cane, Dalton, Mounga, Roigard.
What is this tripe?
A prop likely to be suspended, another still injured. A 7 that’s not really a 7, an injured 6.
A new 10, and playing LF on the right.
A bench with 2 x 7’s but no midfield or outside backs
I have zero idea what this post is trying to say
It's all hopeless so roll the dice and at least make our early exit something to complain about?!
