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Foster's Firsts.

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  • dogmeatD Offline
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    Much like Vodanovich following Allen...

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    • No QuarterN No Quarter

      Henry and Hansen's records really stand out given the number of games. Absolutely incredible success during the professional era. Not saying we can't improve but we probably have to accept we are unlikely to see win percentages like that again over so many matches.

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      @No-Quarter said in Foster's Firsts.:

      Henry and Hansen's records really stand out given the number of games. Absolutely incredible success during the professional era. Not saying we can't improve but we probably have to accept we are unlikely to see win percentages like that again over so many matches.

      Golden generation too. How many (in their positions) GOATs were there?

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      • CatograndeC Catogrande

        @No-Quarter said in Foster's Firsts.:

        Henry and Hansen's records really stand out given the number of games. Absolutely incredible success during the professional era. Not saying we can't improve but we probably have to accept we are unlikely to see win percentages like that again over so many matches.

        Golden generation too. How many (in their positions) GOATs were there?

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        @Catogrande

        If you look at the 2015 squad a couple nailed on and probably another 9 that would be in the conversation.

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        • dogmeatD dogmeat

          @Catogrande

          If you look at the 2015 squad a couple nailed on and probably another 9 that would be in the conversation.

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          @dogmeat said in Foster's Firsts.:

          @Catogrande

          If you look at the 2015 squad a couple nailed on and probably another 9 that would be in the conversation.

          The 12 and 8 went ok too

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          • MN5M MN5

            @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster's Firsts.:

            @MN5 said in Foster's Firsts.:

            They were ruthless on players too, Buck Shelford got dropped because the ABs didn’t beat Scotland convincingly.

            IIRC our win ratio for the next 5 years plummeted to below 70% when it was nearly 100% under Buck.

            Clearly, being ruthless on players worked out well back then.

            Why was Buck the scapegoat?

            Everyone knows all about “Bring back Buck” but why was it him and no one else ?

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            @MN5 said in Foster's Firsts.:

            @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster's Firsts.:

            @MN5 said in Foster's Firsts.:

            They were ruthless on players too, Buck Shelford got dropped because the ABs didn’t beat Scotland convincingly.

            IIRC our win ratio for the next 5 years plummeted to below 70% when it was nearly 100% under Buck.

            Clearly, being ruthless on players worked out well back then.

            Why was Buck the scapegoat?

            Everyone knows all about “Bring back Buck” but why was it him and no one else ?

            There were rumblings about him getting the arse before that because Zinzan Brooke had more hype than even Ethan Blackadder at the time and Buck was getting long in the tooth.

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            • M Machpants

              Bryce Rope (1983 — 1984) 9 1 2 12 75
              Bob Duff (1972 — 1973) 6 1 1 8 75
              John Hart (1996 — 1999) 31 1 9 41 76
              Jack Gleeson (1977 — 1978) 10 0 3 13 77
              Brian Lochore (1985 — 1987) 14 1 3 18 78
              Neil McPhail (1961, 1963 — 1965) 16 2 2 20 80
              John Mitchell (2002 — 2003) 23 1 4 28 82
              Peter Burke (1981 — 1982) 9 0 2 11 82
              Graham Henry (2004 — 2011) 88 0 15 103 85
              Alex Wyllie (1988 — 1991) 25 1 3 29 86
              Steve Hansen (2012 — 2019) 93 4 10 107 87
              Fred Allen (1966 — 1968) 14 0 0 14 100
              Ron Bush (1962) 2 0 0 2 100
              Dick Everest (1957) 2 0 0 2 100
              Len Clode (1951) 3 0 0 3 100

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              @Machpants said in Foster's Firsts.:

              Bryce Rope (1983 — 1984) 9 1 2 12 75
              Bob Duff (1972 — 1973) 6 1 1 8 75
              John Hart (1996 — 1999) 31 1 9 41 76
              Jack Gleeson (1977 — 1978) 10 0 3 13 77
              Brian Lochore (1985 — 1987) 14 1 3 18 78
              Neil McPhail (1961, 1963 — 1965) 16 2 2 20 80
              John Mitchell (2002 — 2003) 23 1 4 28 82
              Peter Burke (1981 — 1982) 9 0 2 11 82
              Graham Henry (2004 — 2011) 88 0 15 103 85
              Alex Wyllie (1988 — 1991) 25 1 3 29 86
              Steve Hansen (2012 — 2019) 93 4 10 107 87
              Fred Allen (1966 — 1968) 14 0 0 14 100
              Ron Bush (1962) 2 0 0 2 100
              Dick Everest (1957) 2 0 0 2 100
              Len Clode (1951) 3 0 0 3 100

              Why so much hate for John Mitchell, I would take 82% WR at the moment.

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              • chimoausC chimoaus

                @Machpants said in Foster's Firsts.:

                Bryce Rope (1983 — 1984) 9 1 2 12 75
                Bob Duff (1972 — 1973) 6 1 1 8 75
                John Hart (1996 — 1999) 31 1 9 41 76
                Jack Gleeson (1977 — 1978) 10 0 3 13 77
                Brian Lochore (1985 — 1987) 14 1 3 18 78
                Neil McPhail (1961, 1963 — 1965) 16 2 2 20 80
                John Mitchell (2002 — 2003) 23 1 4 28 82
                Peter Burke (1981 — 1982) 9 0 2 11 82
                Graham Henry (2004 — 2011) 88 0 15 103 85
                Alex Wyllie (1988 — 1991) 25 1 3 29 86
                Steve Hansen (2012 — 2019) 93 4 10 107 87
                Fred Allen (1966 — 1968) 14 0 0 14 100
                Ron Bush (1962) 2 0 0 2 100
                Dick Everest (1957) 2 0 0 2 100
                Len Clode (1951) 3 0 0 3 100

                Why so much hate for John Mitchell, I would take 82% WR at the moment.

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                @chimoaus Maybe because he was an absolute knob

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                • DonsteppaD Offline
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                  #153

                  That this is even a possible headline on the Stuff front page:

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                    Yeahtheboys
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                    #154

                    I thought it was a coaching Masterclass from Fozzie against Namibia. Putting 70 against an international team is some effort

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                    • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                      That this is even a possible headline on the Stuff front page:

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                      @Donsteppa said in Foster's Firsts.:

                      That this is even a possible headline on the Stuff front page:

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                      Well they are leading the pool aren't they? Can only beat what is in front of you..

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                      • dogmeatD dogmeat

                        Much like Vodanovich following Allen...

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                        Victor Meldrew
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                        #156

                        @dogmeat said in Foster's Firsts.:

                        Much like Vodanovich following Allen...

                        Or much like that 1970's Coaching-Jesus that was Bob Duff taking over from Vodanovich...

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                          Wairau
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                          The match against Italy is Fozzie's last chance to get a record with the ABs, maybe his subconcious mind will be leading him towards a loss.

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                            Another Foster first: First AB coach to lose a pool game and get thru to the 1/4 finals.

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                              ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

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                              • sparkyS sparky

                                ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

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                                @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                                first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

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                                • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                  @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                  ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                                  first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

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                                  @Kiwiwomble said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                  @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                  ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                                  first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                  100% record!

                                  I'd say "100% against South American opposition" but... well...

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                                  • NTAN NTA

                                    @Kiwiwomble said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                    @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                    ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                                    first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                    100% record!

                                    I'd say "100% against South American opposition" but... well...

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                                    @NTA said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                    @Kiwiwomble said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                    @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                    ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                                    first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                    100% record!

                                    I'd say "100% against South American opposition" but... well...

                                    At RWCs

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                                    • NTAN NTA

                                      @Kiwiwomble said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                      @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                      ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                                      first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                      100% record!

                                      I'd say "100% against South American opposition" but... well...

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                                      @NTA said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                      @Kiwiwomble said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                      @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                      ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                                      first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                      100% record!

                                      I'd say "100% against South American opposition" but... well...

                                      we get to say it...its mean when you say it, stick to chat about eddie 😉

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                                      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                        @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                        ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                                        first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

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                                        @Kiwiwomble said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                        @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                        ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                                        first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                        Three records in one night? What's not to like.

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                                        • NTAN NTA

                                          @Kiwiwomble said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                          @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                          ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                                          first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                          100% record!

                                          I'd say "100% against South American opposition" but... well...

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                                          #165

                                          @NTA said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                          @Kiwiwomble said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                          @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                          ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                                          first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                          100% record!

                                          I'd say "100% against South American opposition" but... well...

                                          Well done on scraping past a 14-strong Portugal, you rampant well-disciplined Aussie conquistadors!

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