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Foster's Firsts.

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  • MN5M MN5

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster's Firsts.:

    @MN5 said in Foster's Firsts.:

    They were ruthless on players too, Buck Shelford got dropped because the ABs didn’t beat Scotland convincingly.

    IIRC our win ratio for the next 5 years plummeted to below 70% when it was nearly 100% under Buck.

    Clearly, being ruthless on players worked out well back then.

    Why was Buck the scapegoat?

    Everyone knows all about “Bring back Buck” but why was it him and no one else ?

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    @MN5 said in Foster's Firsts.:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in Foster's Firsts.:

    @MN5 said in Foster's Firsts.:

    They were ruthless on players too, Buck Shelford got dropped because the ABs didn’t beat Scotland convincingly.

    IIRC our win ratio for the next 5 years plummeted to below 70% when it was nearly 100% under Buck.

    Clearly, being ruthless on players worked out well back then.

    Why was Buck the scapegoat?

    Everyone knows all about “Bring back Buck” but why was it him and no one else ?

    There were rumblings about him getting the arse before that because Zinzan Brooke had more hype than even Ethan Blackadder at the time and Buck was getting long in the tooth.

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    • M Machpants

      Bryce Rope (1983 — 1984) 9 1 2 12 75
      Bob Duff (1972 — 1973) 6 1 1 8 75
      John Hart (1996 — 1999) 31 1 9 41 76
      Jack Gleeson (1977 — 1978) 10 0 3 13 77
      Brian Lochore (1985 — 1987) 14 1 3 18 78
      Neil McPhail (1961, 1963 — 1965) 16 2 2 20 80
      John Mitchell (2002 — 2003) 23 1 4 28 82
      Peter Burke (1981 — 1982) 9 0 2 11 82
      Graham Henry (2004 — 2011) 88 0 15 103 85
      Alex Wyllie (1988 — 1991) 25 1 3 29 86
      Steve Hansen (2012 — 2019) 93 4 10 107 87
      Fred Allen (1966 — 1968) 14 0 0 14 100
      Ron Bush (1962) 2 0 0 2 100
      Dick Everest (1957) 2 0 0 2 100
      Len Clode (1951) 3 0 0 3 100

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      @Machpants said in Foster's Firsts.:

      Bryce Rope (1983 — 1984) 9 1 2 12 75
      Bob Duff (1972 — 1973) 6 1 1 8 75
      John Hart (1996 — 1999) 31 1 9 41 76
      Jack Gleeson (1977 — 1978) 10 0 3 13 77
      Brian Lochore (1985 — 1987) 14 1 3 18 78
      Neil McPhail (1961, 1963 — 1965) 16 2 2 20 80
      John Mitchell (2002 — 2003) 23 1 4 28 82
      Peter Burke (1981 — 1982) 9 0 2 11 82
      Graham Henry (2004 — 2011) 88 0 15 103 85
      Alex Wyllie (1988 — 1991) 25 1 3 29 86
      Steve Hansen (2012 — 2019) 93 4 10 107 87
      Fred Allen (1966 — 1968) 14 0 0 14 100
      Ron Bush (1962) 2 0 0 2 100
      Dick Everest (1957) 2 0 0 2 100
      Len Clode (1951) 3 0 0 3 100

      Why so much hate for John Mitchell, I would take 82% WR at the moment.

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      • chimoausC chimoaus

        @Machpants said in Foster's Firsts.:

        Bryce Rope (1983 — 1984) 9 1 2 12 75
        Bob Duff (1972 — 1973) 6 1 1 8 75
        John Hart (1996 — 1999) 31 1 9 41 76
        Jack Gleeson (1977 — 1978) 10 0 3 13 77
        Brian Lochore (1985 — 1987) 14 1 3 18 78
        Neil McPhail (1961, 1963 — 1965) 16 2 2 20 80
        John Mitchell (2002 — 2003) 23 1 4 28 82
        Peter Burke (1981 — 1982) 9 0 2 11 82
        Graham Henry (2004 — 2011) 88 0 15 103 85
        Alex Wyllie (1988 — 1991) 25 1 3 29 86
        Steve Hansen (2012 — 2019) 93 4 10 107 87
        Fred Allen (1966 — 1968) 14 0 0 14 100
        Ron Bush (1962) 2 0 0 2 100
        Dick Everest (1957) 2 0 0 2 100
        Len Clode (1951) 3 0 0 3 100

        Why so much hate for John Mitchell, I would take 82% WR at the moment.

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        dogmeat
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        #152

        @chimoaus Maybe because he was an absolute knob

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        • DonsteppaD Offline
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          #153

          That this is even a possible headline on the Stuff front page:

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            Yeahtheboys
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            #154

            I thought it was a coaching Masterclass from Fozzie against Namibia. Putting 70 against an international team is some effort

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            • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

              That this is even a possible headline on the Stuff front page:

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              nostrildamus
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              @Donsteppa said in Foster's Firsts.:

              That this is even a possible headline on the Stuff front page:

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              Well they are leading the pool aren't they? Can only beat what is in front of you..

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              • dogmeatD dogmeat

                Much like Vodanovich following Allen...

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                Victor Meldrew
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                #156

                @dogmeat said in Foster's Firsts.:

                Much like Vodanovich following Allen...

                Or much like that 1970's Coaching-Jesus that was Bob Duff taking over from Vodanovich...

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                  Wairau
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                  #157

                  The match against Italy is Fozzie's last chance to get a record with the ABs, maybe his subconcious mind will be leading him towards a loss.

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                  • Victor MeldrewV Away
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                    Victor Meldrew
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                    #158

                    Another Foster first: First AB coach to lose a pool game and get thru to the 1/4 finals.

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                      ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

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                      • sparkyS sparky

                        ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

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                        Kiwiwomble
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                        #160

                        @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                        ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                        first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

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                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                          @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                          ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                          first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

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                          @Kiwiwomble said in Foster's Firsts.:

                          @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                          ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                          first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                          100% record!

                          I'd say "100% against South American opposition" but... well...

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                          • NTAN NTA

                            @Kiwiwomble said in Foster's Firsts.:

                            @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                            ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                            first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                            100% record!

                            I'd say "100% against South American opposition" but... well...

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                            @NTA said in Foster's Firsts.:

                            @Kiwiwomble said in Foster's Firsts.:

                            @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                            ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                            first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                            100% record!

                            I'd say "100% against South American opposition" but... well...

                            At RWCs

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                            • NTAN NTA

                              @Kiwiwomble said in Foster's Firsts.:

                              @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                              ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                              first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                              100% record!

                              I'd say "100% against South American opposition" but... well...

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                              Kiwiwomble
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                              @NTA said in Foster's Firsts.:

                              @Kiwiwomble said in Foster's Firsts.:

                              @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                              ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                              first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                              100% record!

                              I'd say "100% against South American opposition" but... well...

                              we get to say it...its mean when you say it, stick to chat about eddie 😉

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                              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                                first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

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                                Victor Meldrew
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                                @Kiwiwomble said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                                first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                Three records in one night? What's not to like.

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                                • NTAN NTA

                                  @Kiwiwomble said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                  @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                  ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                                  first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                  100% record!

                                  I'd say "100% against South American opposition" but... well...

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                                  @NTA said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                  @Kiwiwomble said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                  @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                  ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                                  first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                  100% record!

                                  I'd say "100% against South American opposition" but... well...

                                  Well done on scraping past a 14-strong Portugal, you rampant well-disciplined Aussie conquistadors!

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                                  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                    @NTA said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                    @Kiwiwomble said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                    @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                    ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                                    first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                    100% record!

                                    I'd say "100% against South American opposition" but... well...

                                    Well done on scraping past a 14-strong Portugal, you rampant well-disciplined Aussie conquistadors!

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                                    #166

                                    @nostrildamus said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                    @NTA said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                    @Kiwiwomble said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                    @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                    ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                                    first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                    100% record!

                                    I'd say "100% against South American opposition" but... well...

                                    Well done on scraping past a 14-strong Portugal, you rampant well-disciplined Aussie conquistadors!

                                    Considering we did it with 13 at one point, I'll take that 😁

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                                      Is Foster the first coach to let one of his team get thier leg sliced open?
                                      First AB coach to keep Uruguay scoreless!

                                      He's racking up these firsts.

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                                      • NTAN NTA

                                        @nostrildamus said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                        @NTA said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                        @Kiwiwomble said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                        @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                        ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                                        first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                        100% record!

                                        I'd say "100% against South American opposition" but... well...

                                        Well done on scraping past a 14-strong Portugal, you rampant well-disciplined Aussie conquistadors!

                                        Considering we did it with 13 at one point, I'll take that 😁

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                                        nostrildamus
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                                        @NTA said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                        @nostrildamus said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                        @NTA said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                        @Kiwiwomble said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                        @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                        ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                                        first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                        Hence my well disciplined comment ..

                                        100% record!

                                        I'd say "100% against South American opposition" but... well...

                                        Well done on scraping past a 14-strong Portugal, you rampant well-disciplined Aussie conquistadors!

                                        Considering we did it with 13 at one point, I'll take that 😁

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                                        • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                          @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                          ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                                          first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

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                                          Machpants
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                                          #169

                                          @Kiwiwomble said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                          @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                          ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                                          first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                          @Kiwiwomble said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                          @sparky said in Foster's Firsts.:

                                          ABs’ first win against Uruguay.

                                          first AB coach NOT to lose to Uruguay :man_shrugging_light_skin_tone:

                                          Every abs coach has not lost to Uruguay

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