All Blacks 2024.. locked
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@Chris I’ll rule it out for you then


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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@ACT-Crusader McLeod provides great utility off the bench too. I'd even be tempted to have him on the left wing.
Will Jordan can't even handle wing and people want him at fullback. He's a flash in the pan, flat track bully with not a lot of real rugby skill. Has he grown as a player in the last 4 years?
It’s hard to grow even more awesome
Yeah I can't wait until he's at fullback getting the ball twice as much, in pressure situations. It'll really bring out the best in his poor decision making and vision.
@Bones Do you not watch Crusaders games. The guy is an elite fullback.
I’ll put it here , I think the crusaders will be average next year. Never been a fan of Penny. Might be my hatred of all things Burnside -
@Chris I’ll rule it out for you then


Good not a fan
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@ACT-Crusader McLeod provides great utility off the bench too. I'd even be tempted to have him on the left wing.
Will Jordan can't even handle wing and people want him at fullback. He's a flash in the pan, flat track bully with not a lot of real rugby skill. Has he grown as a player in the last 4 years?
It’s hard to grow even more awesome
Yeah I can't wait until he's at fullback getting the ball twice as much, in pressure situations. It'll really bring out the best in his poor decision making and vision.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@ACT-Crusader McLeod provides great utility off the bench too. I'd even be tempted to have him on the left wing.
Will Jordan can't even handle wing and people want him at fullback. He's a flash in the pan, flat track bully with not a lot of real rugby skill. Has he grown as a player in the last 4 years?
It’s hard to grow even more awesome
Yeah I can't wait until he's at fullback getting the ball twice as much, in pressure situations. It'll really bring out the best in his poor decision making and vision.
sorry, cant get on board, i still think he does 10 times more good than bad
is it 32 tries in 32 teats now?...and those 32 tests include a lot of our least convincing wins and more losses that we've seen in the decade before that...and he kept scoring, im excited to see what he can do in a team that is actually playing to put outside back in space
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@ACT-Crusader McLeod provides great utility off the bench too. I'd even be tempted to have him on the left wing.
Will Jordan can't even handle wing and people want him at fullback. He's a flash in the pan, flat track bully with not a lot of real rugby skill. Has he grown as a player in the last 4 years?
It’s hard to grow even more awesome
Yeah I can't wait until he's at fullback getting the ball twice as much, in pressure situations. It'll really bring out the best in his poor decision making and vision.
sorry, cant get on board, i still think he does 10 times more good than bad
is it 32 tries in 32 teats now?...and those 32 tests include a lot of our least convincing wins and more losses that we've seen in the decade before that...and he kept scoring, im excited to see what he can do in a team that is actually playing to put outside back in space
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@ACT-Crusader McLeod provides great utility off the bench too. I'd even be tempted to have him on the left wing.
Will Jordan can't even handle wing and people want him at fullback. He's a flash in the pan, flat track bully with not a lot of real rugby skill. Has he grown as a player in the last 4 years?
It’s hard to grow even more awesome
Yeah I can't wait until he's at fullback getting the ball twice as much, in pressure situations. It'll really bring out the best in his poor decision making and vision.
sorry, cant get on board, i still think he does 10 times more good than bad
is it 32 tries in 32 teats now?...and those 32 tests include a lot of our least convincing wins and more losses that we've seen in the decade before that...and he kept scoring, im excited to see what he can do in a team that is actually playing to put outside back in space
Worth a go isn't it?
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.
So midfield sorted too, nice one.
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
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@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:
What about Levi Aumua, he has been talked about as a big impact player.
That's the thing, Aumua, Havili and McLeod can't all start in the midfield for the Crusaders so it will be hard to justify selecting a player who spends more time on the bench than starting. Aumua has a weakness with his speed on defence. That would be exposed at international level.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.
So midfield sorted too, nice one.
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.
So midfield sorted too, nice one.
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
That would be a retrograde step.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.
So midfield sorted too, nice one.
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
That would be a retrograde step.
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
That would be a retrograde step.
I agree, but he plays for the Crusaders.

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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.
So midfield sorted too, nice one.
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.
So midfield sorted too, nice one.
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
What role? Fullback because he is not a midfielder. I think we have gone down the route and surely Robinson can see that.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.
So midfield sorted too, nice one.
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
What role? Fullback because he is not a midfielder. I think we have gone down the route and surely Robinson can see that.
@broughie said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.
So midfield sorted too, nice one.
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
What role? Fullback because he is not a midfielder. I think we have gone down the route and surely Robinson can see that.
Not an international level midfielder, does fine at SR
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@broughie said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.
So midfield sorted too, nice one.
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
What role? Fullback because he is not a midfielder. I think we have gone down the route and surely Robinson can see that.
Not an international level midfielder, does fine at SR
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:
@broughie said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.
So midfield sorted too, nice one.
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
What role? Fullback because he is not a midfielder. I think we have gone down the route and surely Robinson can see that.
Not an international level midfielder, does fine at SR
yeah, no he doesn't
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I think the 23 below as a starting point next year would be pretty decent but I'm sure other players will put their hands up during Super. First five depth is clearly an area of weakness. I've put Perofeta on the bench but it could be anyone.
- De Groot
- Taylor
- Lomax
- Barrett
- Lord
- Finau
- Blackadder (I think Razor will pick Blackadder over Dalton here)
- Savea
- Roigard
- McKenzie
- Telea
- Barrett
- Ioane
- Narawa
- Jordan
- Taukei’aho
- Williams
- Newell
- Vaai
- Flanders (I'm being Canes biased by selecting Flanders here but I think he'll have a massive season in 2024. Can cover 6/8.
- Fakatava
- Perofeta
- Stevenson
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:
- Blackadder (I think Razor will pick Blackadder over Dalton here)
Blackadder has bulked up - which he didn't need to do if he wanted to play 7 - pretty clear statement that he's going to specialize at 6 or 8 - most likely 6.
I'm sure he and Grace will be playing 6 and 8 next year for the Crusaders. If they can stay injury free, there's a good chance both will be in the AB squad contesting those positions.
I think Fabian Holland will be worth keeping an eye on. He's got dimensions that few others have.
Billy Proctor a chance in the midfield.
We will need one or two first fives - beyond DMac. Super rugby will be interesting in that regard - to see who emerges on top.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:
- Blackadder (I think Razor will pick Blackadder over Dalton here)
Blackadder has bulked up - which he didn't need to do if he wanted to play 7 - pretty clear statement that he's going to specialize at 6 or 8 - most likely 6.
I'm sure he and Grace will be playing 6 and 8 next year for the Crusaders. If they can stay injury free, there's a good chance both will be in the AB squad contesting those positions.
I think Fabian Holland will be worth keeping an eye on. He's got dimensions that few others have.
Billy Proctor a chance in the midfield.
We will need one or two first fives - beyond DMac. Super rugby will be interesting in that regard - to see who emerges on top.
@Chris-B the main reason i am hoping Finau kicks on is, he's a damn sight taller than the other 6 options floated around. And with a couple of new locks also required, the lineout will be under a little more pressure next year
also he wrecks fluffybunnies and loves the hard carry
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
and those two people would have required medical attention
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
did frizell only make one tackle?!