All Blacks 2024.. locked
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.
So midfield sorted too, nice one.
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
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@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:
What about Levi Aumua, he has been talked about as a big impact player.
That's the thing, Aumua, Havili and McLeod can't all start in the midfield for the Crusaders so it will be hard to justify selecting a player who spends more time on the bench than starting. Aumua has a weakness with his speed on defence. That would be exposed at international level.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.
So midfield sorted too, nice one.
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.
So midfield sorted too, nice one.
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
That would be a retrograde step.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.
So midfield sorted too, nice one.
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
That would be a retrograde step.
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
That would be a retrograde step.
I agree, but he plays for the Crusaders.

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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.
So midfield sorted too, nice one.
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.
So midfield sorted too, nice one.
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
What role? Fullback because he is not a midfielder. I think we have gone down the route and surely Robinson can see that.
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@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.
So midfield sorted too, nice one.
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
What role? Fullback because he is not a midfielder. I think we have gone down the route and surely Robinson can see that.
@broughie said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.
So midfield sorted too, nice one.
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
What role? Fullback because he is not a midfielder. I think we have gone down the route and surely Robinson can see that.
Not an international level midfielder, does fine at SR
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@broughie said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.
So midfield sorted too, nice one.
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
What role? Fullback because he is not a midfielder. I think we have gone down the route and surely Robinson can see that.
Not an international level midfielder, does fine at SR
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:
@broughie said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.
So midfield sorted too, nice one.
Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.
What role? Fullback because he is not a midfielder. I think we have gone down the route and surely Robinson can see that.
Not an international level midfielder, does fine at SR
yeah, no he doesn't
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I think the 23 below as a starting point next year would be pretty decent but I'm sure other players will put their hands up during Super. First five depth is clearly an area of weakness. I've put Perofeta on the bench but it could be anyone.
- De Groot
- Taylor
- Lomax
- Barrett
- Lord
- Finau
- Blackadder (I think Razor will pick Blackadder over Dalton here)
- Savea
- Roigard
- McKenzie
- Telea
- Barrett
- Ioane
- Narawa
- Jordan
- Taukei’aho
- Williams
- Newell
- Vaai
- Flanders (I'm being Canes biased by selecting Flanders here but I think he'll have a massive season in 2024. Can cover 6/8.
- Fakatava
- Perofeta
- Stevenson
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:
- Blackadder (I think Razor will pick Blackadder over Dalton here)
Blackadder has bulked up - which he didn't need to do if he wanted to play 7 - pretty clear statement that he's going to specialize at 6 or 8 - most likely 6.
I'm sure he and Grace will be playing 6 and 8 next year for the Crusaders. If they can stay injury free, there's a good chance both will be in the AB squad contesting those positions.
I think Fabian Holland will be worth keeping an eye on. He's got dimensions that few others have.
Billy Proctor a chance in the midfield.
We will need one or two first fives - beyond DMac. Super rugby will be interesting in that regard - to see who emerges on top.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:
- Blackadder (I think Razor will pick Blackadder over Dalton here)
Blackadder has bulked up - which he didn't need to do if he wanted to play 7 - pretty clear statement that he's going to specialize at 6 or 8 - most likely 6.
I'm sure he and Grace will be playing 6 and 8 next year for the Crusaders. If they can stay injury free, there's a good chance both will be in the AB squad contesting those positions.
I think Fabian Holland will be worth keeping an eye on. He's got dimensions that few others have.
Billy Proctor a chance in the midfield.
We will need one or two first fives - beyond DMac. Super rugby will be interesting in that regard - to see who emerges on top.
@Chris-B the main reason i am hoping Finau kicks on is, he's a damn sight taller than the other 6 options floated around. And with a couple of new locks also required, the lineout will be under a little more pressure next year
also he wrecks fluffybunnies and loves the hard carry
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
and those two people would have required medical attention
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
did frizell only make one tackle?!
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@Chris-B the main reason i am hoping Finau kicks on is, he's a damn sight taller than the other 6 options floated around. And with a couple of new locks also required, the lineout will be under a little more pressure next year
also he wrecks fluffybunnies and loves the hard carry
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris-B the main reason i am hoping Finau kicks on is, he's a damn sight taller than the other 6 options floated around. And with a couple of new locks also required, the lineout will be under a little more pressure next year
also he wrecks fluffybunnies and loves the hard carry
I've never noticed before that these posts read differently in the edit pane. Fluffybunnies disappears - to be expected, I guess.

Right now, I'm expecting Finau to be there as well. We need size (especially height) at 6 - especially if Ardie is playing 8.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
did frizell only make one tackle?!
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
did frizell only make one tackle?!
Yes
To be fair, he attempted two tackles
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
did frizell only make one tackle?!
Yes
To be fair, he attempted two tackles
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
did frizell only make one tackle?!
Yes
To be fair, he attempted two tackles
but he came to save us all!
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I would be pretty happy to see a loose forward trio of Finau, DP and Ardie lining up next year.
It would mean Finau has continued his 2023 form, DP has seized the moment. And Ardie is available.