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    If he can stay injury free, Gardiner could be in the mix.

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      I'm really excited to see a new face at 15 - a genuine fullback who is in their prime please. Jordie is a 12 who was playing 15 and Beauden this cycle was past his prime.

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

        Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.

        So midfield sorted too, nice one.

        Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.

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        @Bovidae What about Levi Aumua, he has been talked about as a big impact player.

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          @Bovidae What about Levi Aumua, he has been talked about as a big impact player.

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          @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:

          What about Levi Aumua, he has been talked about as a big impact player.

          That's the thing, Aumua, Havili and McLeod can't all start in the midfield for the Crusaders so it will be hard to justify selecting a player who spends more time on the bench than starting. Aumua has a weakness with his speed on defence. That would be exposed at international level.

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          • BovidaeB Bovidae

            @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

            Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.

            So midfield sorted too, nice one.

            Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.

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            @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:

            @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

            Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.

            So midfield sorted too, nice one.

            Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.

            That would be a retrograde step.

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            • antipodeanA antipodean

              @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:

              @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

              Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.

              So midfield sorted too, nice one.

              Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.

              That would be a retrograde step.

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              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

              @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:

              Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.

              That would be a retrograde step.

              I agree, but he plays for the Crusaders. 😉

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.

                So midfield sorted too, nice one.

                Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.

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                @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:

                @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.

                So midfield sorted too, nice one.

                Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.

                What role? Fullback because he is not a midfielder. I think we have gone down the route and surely Robinson can see that.

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                • broughieB broughie

                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                  Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.

                  So midfield sorted too, nice one.

                  Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.

                  What role? Fullback because he is not a midfielder. I think we have gone down the route and surely Robinson can see that.

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                  @broughie said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                  Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.

                  So midfield sorted too, nice one.

                  Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.

                  What role? Fullback because he is not a midfielder. I think we have gone down the route and surely Robinson can see that.

                  Not an international level midfielder, does fine at SR

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                  • M Machpants

                    @broughie said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                    Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.

                    So midfield sorted too, nice one.

                    Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.

                    What role? Fullback because he is not a midfielder. I think we have gone down the route and surely Robinson can see that.

                    Not an international level midfielder, does fine at SR

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                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @broughie said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                    Jordie, Rieko, Proctor, ALB, McLeod.

                    So midfield sorted too, nice one.

                    Havili's chances of selection may be better next season.

                    What role? Fullback because he is not a midfielder. I think we have gone down the route and surely Robinson can see that.

                    Not an international level midfielder, does fine at SR

                    yeah, no he doesn't

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      I think the 23 below as a starting point next year would be pretty decent but I'm sure other players will put their hands up during Super. First five depth is clearly an area of weakness. I've put Perofeta on the bench but it could be anyone.

                      1. De Groot
                      2. Taylor
                      3. Lomax
                      4. Barrett
                      5. Lord
                      6. Finau
                      7. Blackadder (I think Razor will pick Blackadder over Dalton here)
                      8. Savea
                      9. Roigard
                      10. McKenzie
                      11. Telea
                      12. Barrett
                      13. Ioane
                      14. Narawa
                      15. Jordan
                      16. Taukei’aho
                      17. Williams
                      18. Newell
                      19. Vaai
                      20. Flanders (I'm being Canes biased by selecting Flanders here but I think he'll have a massive season in 2024. Can cover 6/8.
                      21. Fakatava
                      22. Perofeta
                      23. Stevenson
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                      #167

                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                      1. Blackadder (I think Razor will pick Blackadder over Dalton here)

                      Blackadder has bulked up - which he didn't need to do if he wanted to play 7 - pretty clear statement that he's going to specialize at 6 or 8 - most likely 6.

                      I'm sure he and Grace will be playing 6 and 8 next year for the Crusaders. If they can stay injury free, there's a good chance both will be in the AB squad contesting those positions.

                      I think Fabian Holland will be worth keeping an eye on. He's got dimensions that few others have.

                      Billy Proctor a chance in the midfield.

                      We will need one or two first fives - beyond DMac. Super rugby will be interesting in that regard - to see who emerges on top.

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                      • Chris B.C Chris B.

                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                        1. Blackadder (I think Razor will pick Blackadder over Dalton here)

                        Blackadder has bulked up - which he didn't need to do if he wanted to play 7 - pretty clear statement that he's going to specialize at 6 or 8 - most likely 6.

                        I'm sure he and Grace will be playing 6 and 8 next year for the Crusaders. If they can stay injury free, there's a good chance both will be in the AB squad contesting those positions.

                        I think Fabian Holland will be worth keeping an eye on. He's got dimensions that few others have.

                        Billy Proctor a chance in the midfield.

                        We will need one or two first fives - beyond DMac. Super rugby will be interesting in that regard - to see who emerges on top.

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                        @Chris-B the main reason i am hoping Finau kicks on is, he's a damn sight taller than the other 6 options floated around. And with a couple of new locks also required, the lineout will be under a little more pressure next year

                        also he wrecks fluffybunnies and loves the hard carry

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                        • KiwiMurphK Online
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                          Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.

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                            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

                            Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.

                            If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles

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                            • DuluthD Duluth

                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

                              Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.

                              If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles

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                              @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

                              Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.

                              If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles

                              and those two people would have required medical attention

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                              • DuluthD Duluth

                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

                                Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.

                                If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles

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                                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

                                Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.

                                If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles

                                did frizell only make one tackle?!

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                                  I saw Finau a couple of weeks ago. He's much bigger than you think when up close.

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    @Chris-B the main reason i am hoping Finau kicks on is, he's a damn sight taller than the other 6 options floated around. And with a couple of new locks also required, the lineout will be under a little more pressure next year

                                    also he wrecks fluffybunnies and loves the hard carry

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                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                    @Chris-B the main reason i am hoping Finau kicks on is, he's a damn sight taller than the other 6 options floated around. And with a couple of new locks also required, the lineout will be under a little more pressure next year

                                    also he wrecks fluffybunnies and loves the hard carry

                                    I've never noticed before that these posts read differently in the edit pane. Fluffybunnies disappears - to be expected, I guess. 🙂

                                    Right now, I'm expecting Finau to be there as well. We need size (especially height) at 6 - especially if Ardie is playing 8.

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                                    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.

                                      If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles

                                      did frizell only make one tackle?!

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                                      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.

                                      If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles

                                      did frizell only make one tackle?!

                                      Yes

                                      To be fair, he attempted two tackles

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                                      • DuluthD Duluth

                                        @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.

                                        If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles

                                        did frizell only make one tackle?!

                                        Yes

                                        To be fair, he attempted two tackles

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                                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.

                                        If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles

                                        did frizell only make one tackle?!

                                        Yes

                                        To be fair, he attempted two tackles

                                        but he came to save us all!

                                        https://media.tenor.com/2cdCrWpaLrAAAAAC/ms-teams-banging-head-on-wall-emoji.gif

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                                          I would be pretty happy to see a loose forward trio of Finau, DP and Ardie lining up next year.

                                          It would mean Finau has continued his 2023 form, DP has seized the moment. And Ardie is available.

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