All Blacks 2024.. locked
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I think the 23 below as a starting point next year would be pretty decent but I'm sure other players will put their hands up during Super. First five depth is clearly an area of weakness. I've put Perofeta on the bench but it could be anyone.
- De Groot
- Taylor
- Lomax
- Barrett
- Lord
- Finau
- Blackadder (I think Razor will pick Blackadder over Dalton here)
- Savea
- Roigard
- McKenzie
- Telea
- Barrett
- Ioane
- Narawa
- Jordan
- Taukei’aho
- Williams
- Newell
- Vaai
- Flanders (I'm being Canes biased by selecting Flanders here but I think he'll have a massive season in 2024. Can cover 6/8.
- Fakatava
- Perofeta
- Stevenson
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:
- Blackadder (I think Razor will pick Blackadder over Dalton here)
Blackadder has bulked up - which he didn't need to do if he wanted to play 7 - pretty clear statement that he's going to specialize at 6 or 8 - most likely 6.
I'm sure he and Grace will be playing 6 and 8 next year for the Crusaders. If they can stay injury free, there's a good chance both will be in the AB squad contesting those positions.
I think Fabian Holland will be worth keeping an eye on. He's got dimensions that few others have.
Billy Proctor a chance in the midfield.
We will need one or two first fives - beyond DMac. Super rugby will be interesting in that regard - to see who emerges on top.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:
- Blackadder (I think Razor will pick Blackadder over Dalton here)
Blackadder has bulked up - which he didn't need to do if he wanted to play 7 - pretty clear statement that he's going to specialize at 6 or 8 - most likely 6.
I'm sure he and Grace will be playing 6 and 8 next year for the Crusaders. If they can stay injury free, there's a good chance both will be in the AB squad contesting those positions.
I think Fabian Holland will be worth keeping an eye on. He's got dimensions that few others have.
Billy Proctor a chance in the midfield.
We will need one or two first fives - beyond DMac. Super rugby will be interesting in that regard - to see who emerges on top.
@Chris-B the main reason i am hoping Finau kicks on is, he's a damn sight taller than the other 6 options floated around. And with a couple of new locks also required, the lineout will be under a little more pressure next year
also he wrecks fluffybunnies and loves the hard carry
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
and those two people would have required medical attention
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
did frizell only make one tackle?!
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@Chris-B the main reason i am hoping Finau kicks on is, he's a damn sight taller than the other 6 options floated around. And with a couple of new locks also required, the lineout will be under a little more pressure next year
also he wrecks fluffybunnies and loves the hard carry
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris-B the main reason i am hoping Finau kicks on is, he's a damn sight taller than the other 6 options floated around. And with a couple of new locks also required, the lineout will be under a little more pressure next year
also he wrecks fluffybunnies and loves the hard carry
I've never noticed before that these posts read differently in the edit pane. Fluffybunnies disappears - to be expected, I guess.

Right now, I'm expecting Finau to be there as well. We need size (especially height) at 6 - especially if Ardie is playing 8.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
did frizell only make one tackle?!
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
did frizell only make one tackle?!
Yes
To be fair, he attempted two tackles
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
did frizell only make one tackle?!
Yes
To be fair, he attempted two tackles
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.
If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles
did frizell only make one tackle?!
Yes
To be fair, he attempted two tackles
but he came to save us all!
https://media.tenor.com/2cdCrWpaLrAAAAAC/ms-teams-banging-head-on-wall-emoji.gif
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I would be pretty happy to see a loose forward trio of Finau, DP and Ardie lining up next year.
It would mean Finau has continued his 2023 form, DP has seized the moment. And Ardie is available.
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@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bovidae What about Levi Aumua, he has been talked about as a big impact player.
Emphasis on the big…
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris-B the main reason i am hoping Finau kicks on is, he's a damn sight taller than the other 6 options floated around. And with a couple of new locks also required, the lineout will be under a little more pressure next year
also he wrecks fluffybunnies and loves the hard carry
I've never noticed before that these posts read differently in the edit pane. Fluffybunnies disappears - to be expected, I guess.

Right now, I'm expecting Finau to be there as well. We need size (especially height) at 6 - especially if Ardie is playing 8.
@Chris-B is that you Blackdragon?

I don’t think we have necessarily suffered as a result of lack of height. We win more LO ball than most and our scrum is a pretty dominant weapons with how our back 5 work in connection with the front row.
Here’s a thought, let’s pick a bunch of shorter forwards so opposition defenders risk getting YC/RC for not getting low enough on tackles!
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@Chris-B is that you Blackdragon?

I don’t think we have necessarily suffered as a result of lack of height. We win more LO ball than most and our scrum is a pretty dominant weapons with how our back 5 work in connection with the front row.
Here’s a thought, let’s pick a bunch of shorter forwards so opposition defenders risk getting YC/RC for not getting low enough on tackles!
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024:
@Chris-B is that you Blackdragon?

I don’t think we have necessarily suffered as a result of lack of height. We win more LO ball than most and our scrum is a pretty dominant weapons with how our back 5 work in connection with the front row.
Here’s a thought, let’s pick a bunch of shorter forwards so opposition defenders risk getting YC/RC for not getting low enough on tackles!
Did you miss this weekends test? Opposition players don’t need to get low.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:
- Blackadder (I think Razor will pick Blackadder over Dalton here)
Blackadder has bulked up - which he didn't need to do if he wanted to play 7 - pretty clear statement that he's going to specialize at 6 or 8 - most likely 6.
I'm sure he and Grace will be playing 6 and 8 next year for the Crusaders. If they can stay injury free, there's a good chance both will be in the AB squad contesting those positions.
I think Fabian Holland will be worth keeping an eye on. He's got dimensions that few others have.
Billy Proctor a chance in the midfield.
We will need one or two first fives - beyond DMac. Super rugby will be interesting in that regard - to see who emerges on top.
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:
I think Fabian Holland will be worth keeping an eye on. He's got dimensions that few others have.
Not available until EOYT 2025
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Enough beating around the bush, here is Razor's first full squad:
Props:
Ethan de Groot
Tamaiti Williams
George Bower
Tyrel Lomax
Fletcher Newell
Tevita MafileoHookers:
Codie Taylor
Samisoni Taukei'aho
George BellLocks:
Scott Barrett
Josh Lord
Quinten Strange
Pari Pari Parkinson? (We're bloody short on locks, but have a gut fell Vaa'i won't make the cut)Loose Forwards:
Dom Gardiner
Samipeni Finau
Dalton Papalii
Sam Cane
Ardie Savea
Cullen Grace
Simon ParkerHalfbacks:
Cam Roigard
Folau Fakatava
Finlay ChristieFirst Fives:
Damian McKenzie
David Havili
Brett CameronMidfielders:
Jordie Barrett
Rieko Ioane
Anton Lienert-Brown
Dallas McLeod
Riley HigginsOutside Backs:
Macca Springer
Mark Telea
Will Jordan
Emoni Narawa
Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens -
Enough beating around the bush, here is Razor's first full squad:
Props:
Ethan de Groot
Tamaiti Williams
George Bower
Tyrel Lomax
Fletcher Newell
Tevita MafileoHookers:
Codie Taylor
Samisoni Taukei'aho
George BellLocks:
Scott Barrett
Josh Lord
Quinten Strange
Pari Pari Parkinson? (We're bloody short on locks, but have a gut fell Vaa'i won't make the cut)Loose Forwards:
Dom Gardiner
Samipeni Finau
Dalton Papalii
Sam Cane
Ardie Savea
Cullen Grace
Simon ParkerHalfbacks:
Cam Roigard
Folau Fakatava
Finlay ChristieFirst Fives:
Damian McKenzie
David Havili
Brett CameronMidfielders:
Jordie Barrett
Rieko Ioane
Anton Lienert-Brown
Dallas McLeod
Riley HigginsOutside Backs:
Macca Springer
Mark Telea
Will Jordan
Emoni Narawa
Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens -
@Chris-B is that you Blackdragon?

I don’t think we have necessarily suffered as a result of lack of height. We win more LO ball than most and our scrum is a pretty dominant weapons with how our back 5 work in connection with the front row.
Here’s a thought, let’s pick a bunch of shorter forwards so opposition defenders risk getting YC/RC for not getting low enough on tackles!
@ACT-Crusader We haven't lacked height - it's a big reason they picked Frizell.