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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    I saw Finau a couple of weeks ago. He's much bigger than you think when up close.

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      @Chris-B the main reason i am hoping Finau kicks on is, he's a damn sight taller than the other 6 options floated around. And with a couple of new locks also required, the lineout will be under a little more pressure next year

      also he wrecks fluffybunnies and loves the hard carry

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      @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:

      @Chris-B the main reason i am hoping Finau kicks on is, he's a damn sight taller than the other 6 options floated around. And with a couple of new locks also required, the lineout will be under a little more pressure next year

      also he wrecks fluffybunnies and loves the hard carry

      I've never noticed before that these posts read differently in the edit pane. Fluffybunnies disappears - to be expected, I guess. 🙂

      Right now, I'm expecting Finau to be there as well. We need size (especially height) at 6 - especially if Ardie is playing 8.

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      • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

        Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.

        If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles

        did frizell only make one tackle?!

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        @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:

        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

        Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.

        If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles

        did frizell only make one tackle?!

        Yes

        To be fair, he attempted two tackles

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        • DuluthD Duluth

          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:

          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

          Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.

          If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles

          did frizell only make one tackle?!

          Yes

          To be fair, he attempted two tackles

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          Kiwiwomble
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          #176

          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

          @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:

          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

          Finau has a higher ceiling than Frizell in my view.

          If he played 45mins in RWC final I think he would've made at least two tackles

          did frizell only make one tackle?!

          Yes

          To be fair, he attempted two tackles

          but he came to save us all!

          https://media.tenor.com/2cdCrWpaLrAAAAAC/ms-teams-banging-head-on-wall-emoji.gif

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          • mariner4lifeM Offline
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            I would be pretty happy to see a loose forward trio of Finau, DP and Ardie lining up next year.

            It would mean Finau has continued his 2023 form, DP has seized the moment. And Ardie is available.

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              I saw Finau a couple of weeks ago. He's much bigger than you think when up close.

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              #178

              @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:

              I saw Finau a couple of weeks ago. He's much bigger than you think when up close.

              So he just plays small then?

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              • S SBW1

                @Bovidae What about Levi Aumua, he has been talked about as a big impact player.

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                @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:

                @Bovidae What about Levi Aumua, he has been talked about as a big impact player.

                Emphasis on the big…

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                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @Chris-B the main reason i am hoping Finau kicks on is, he's a damn sight taller than the other 6 options floated around. And with a couple of new locks also required, the lineout will be under a little more pressure next year

                  also he wrecks fluffybunnies and loves the hard carry

                  I've never noticed before that these posts read differently in the edit pane. Fluffybunnies disappears - to be expected, I guess. 🙂

                  Right now, I'm expecting Finau to be there as well. We need size (especially height) at 6 - especially if Ardie is playing 8.

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                  ACT Crusader
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                  #180

                  @Chris-B is that you Blackdragon? 😉

                  I don’t think we have necessarily suffered as a result of lack of height. We win more LO ball than most and our scrum is a pretty dominant weapons with how our back 5 work in connection with the front row.

                  Here’s a thought, let’s pick a bunch of shorter forwards so opposition defenders risk getting YC/RC for not getting low enough on tackles!

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                  • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                    @Chris-B is that you Blackdragon? 😉

                    I don’t think we have necessarily suffered as a result of lack of height. We win more LO ball than most and our scrum is a pretty dominant weapons with how our back 5 work in connection with the front row.

                    Here’s a thought, let’s pick a bunch of shorter forwards so opposition defenders risk getting YC/RC for not getting low enough on tackles!

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                    Nepia
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                    #181

                    @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @Chris-B is that you Blackdragon? 😉

                    I don’t think we have necessarily suffered as a result of lack of height. We win more LO ball than most and our scrum is a pretty dominant weapons with how our back 5 work in connection with the front row.

                    Here’s a thought, let’s pick a bunch of shorter forwards so opposition defenders risk getting YC/RC for not getting low enough on tackles!

                    Did you miss this weekends test? Opposition players don’t need to get low.

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                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                      1. Blackadder (I think Razor will pick Blackadder over Dalton here)

                      Blackadder has bulked up - which he didn't need to do if he wanted to play 7 - pretty clear statement that he's going to specialize at 6 or 8 - most likely 6.

                      I'm sure he and Grace will be playing 6 and 8 next year for the Crusaders. If they can stay injury free, there's a good chance both will be in the AB squad contesting those positions.

                      I think Fabian Holland will be worth keeping an eye on. He's got dimensions that few others have.

                      Billy Proctor a chance in the midfield.

                      We will need one or two first fives - beyond DMac. Super rugby will be interesting in that regard - to see who emerges on top.

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                      @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2024:

                      I think Fabian Holland will be worth keeping an eye on. He's got dimensions that few others have.

                      Not available until EOYT 2025

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                        #183

                        Enough beating around the bush, here is Razor's first full squad:

                        Props:
                        Ethan de Groot
                        Tamaiti Williams
                        George Bower
                        Tyrel Lomax
                        Fletcher Newell
                        Tevita Mafileo

                        Hookers:
                        Codie Taylor
                        Samisoni Taukei'aho
                        George Bell

                        Locks:
                        Scott Barrett
                        Josh Lord
                        Quinten Strange
                        Pari Pari Parkinson? (We're bloody short on locks, but have a gut fell Vaa'i won't make the cut)

                        Loose Forwards:
                        Dom Gardiner
                        Samipeni Finau
                        Dalton Papalii
                        Sam Cane
                        Ardie Savea
                        Cullen Grace
                        Simon Parker

                        Halfbacks:
                        Cam Roigard
                        Folau Fakatava
                        Finlay Christie

                        First Fives:
                        Damian McKenzie
                        David Havili
                        Brett Cameron

                        Midfielders:
                        Jordie Barrett
                        Rieko Ioane
                        Anton Lienert-Brown
                        Dallas McLeod
                        Riley Higgins

                        Outside Backs:
                        Macca Springer
                        Mark Telea
                        Will Jordan
                        Emoni Narawa
                        Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens

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                          Enough beating around the bush, here is Razor's first full squad:

                          Props:
                          Ethan de Groot
                          Tamaiti Williams
                          George Bower
                          Tyrel Lomax
                          Fletcher Newell
                          Tevita Mafileo

                          Hookers:
                          Codie Taylor
                          Samisoni Taukei'aho
                          George Bell

                          Locks:
                          Scott Barrett
                          Josh Lord
                          Quinten Strange
                          Pari Pari Parkinson? (We're bloody short on locks, but have a gut fell Vaa'i won't make the cut)

                          Loose Forwards:
                          Dom Gardiner
                          Samipeni Finau
                          Dalton Papalii
                          Sam Cane
                          Ardie Savea
                          Cullen Grace
                          Simon Parker

                          Halfbacks:
                          Cam Roigard
                          Folau Fakatava
                          Finlay Christie

                          First Fives:
                          Damian McKenzie
                          David Havili
                          Brett Cameron

                          Midfielders:
                          Jordie Barrett
                          Rieko Ioane
                          Anton Lienert-Brown
                          Dallas McLeod
                          Riley Higgins

                          Outside Backs:
                          Macca Springer
                          Mark Telea
                          Will Jordan
                          Emoni Narawa
                          Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens

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                          Chris
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                          #184

                          @frugby

                          You missed Blackadder a certainty.

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                          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                            @Chris-B is that you Blackdragon? 😉

                            I don’t think we have necessarily suffered as a result of lack of height. We win more LO ball than most and our scrum is a pretty dominant weapons with how our back 5 work in connection with the front row.

                            Here’s a thought, let’s pick a bunch of shorter forwards so opposition defenders risk getting YC/RC for not getting low enough on tackles!

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                            Chris B.
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                            #185

                            @ACT-Crusader We haven't lacked height - it's a big reason they picked Frizell.

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                              Shaun Stevenson must be in the picture. Is there any truth to talk of Havili playing 10 at the Saders? If he ices that position, he would be a very versatile player. Have barely scene him this year at test level.

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                                Bovidae
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                                Speaking of Frizell, I think it was before the Arg SF when they were lined up for the anthems. Shannon was standing next to Williams and was noticeably shorter. The stats say there is only 1 cm difference.

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                                  chchfanatic
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                                  David Havilli will be starting 10 for the crusaders. No Burke for first part of season

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                                    David Havilli will be starting 10 for the crusaders. No Burke for first part of season

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                                    @chchfanatic
                                    Yeah Burke out to at least April.

                                    I like Havilli at first five it means we can play McLeod and Amua in the MF which is a big MF combo.

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                                      David Havilli will be starting 10 for the crusaders. No Burke for first part of season

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                                      @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      David Havilli will be starting 10 for the crusaders. No Burke for first part of season

                                      Better 10 than Burke too IMO. He might keep the spot through the SR season.

                                      Which would then make him a good chance of being one of the 3 AB 10's

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        Speaking of Frizell, I think it was before the Arg SF when they were lined up for the anthems. Shannon was standing next to Williams and was noticeably shorter. The stats say there is only 1 cm difference.

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                                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        Speaking of Frizell, I think it was before the Arg SF when they were lined up for the anthems. Shannon was standing next to Williams and was noticeably shorter. The stats say there is only 1 cm difference.

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                                        • S SBW1

                                          Shaun Stevenson must be in the picture. Is there any truth to talk of Havili playing 10 at the Saders? If he ices that position, he would be a very versatile player. Have barely scene him this year at test level.

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                                          @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          Shaun Stevenson must be in the picture. Is there any truth to talk of Havili playing 10 at the Saders? If he ices that position, he would be a very versatile player. Have barely scene him this year at test level.

                                          ……and the All Blacks made the final of the World Cup.

                                          It could all be a huge coincidence though.

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