All Blacks 2024.. locked
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@cgrant Lord should already be the incumbent, he's got enough size.
Too skinny. Pari Pari Parkinson is a much better bet
Especially if we want to continue losing.
Yeah considering I don’t watch the highlanders ( even though they are my second team according to a recent fern poll ) I don’t really know what I’m talking about to be fair.
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@cgrant Lord should already be the incumbent, he's got enough size.
Too skinny. Pari Pari Parkinson is a much better bet
Especially if we want to continue losing.
Yeah considering I don’t watch the highlanders ( even though they are my second team according to a recent fern poll ) I don’t really know what I’m talking about to be fair.
PPP is a big boy for sure, but he plays like Jane. Not someone you would select if you are looking for starch. Who knows, if he gets an injury free run he may change.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@cgrant Lord should already be the incumbent, he's got enough size.
Too skinny. Pari Pari Parkinson is a much better bet
Especially if we want to continue losing.
Yeah considering I don’t watch the highlanders ( even though they are my second team according to a recent fern poll ) I don’t really know what I’m talking about to be fair.
PPP is a big boy for sure, but he plays like Jane. Not someone you would select if you are looking for starch. Who knows, if he gets an injury free run he may change.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@cgrant Lord should already be the incumbent, he's got enough size.
Too skinny. Pari Pari Parkinson is a much better bet
Especially if we want to continue losing.
Yeah considering I don’t watch the highlanders ( even though they are my second team according to a recent fern poll ) I don’t really know what I’m talking about to be fair.
PPP is a big boy for sure, but he plays like Jane. Not someone you would select if you are looking for starch. Who knows, if he gets an injury free run he may change.
Good enough for me. I’ll cross him off the list. We don’t need a latter day Mark Cooksley.
Who does that leave ? Anyone ?
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks 2024:
@Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
One guy who is a bit of a forgotten man is TJ Perenara.
Not his biggest fan but I wonder if he's a chance if they are looking for experience in one of their 3 halfbacks with Smith and Weber gone.
I didn't realise that he's still only 31! Pity he didn't kick on as well as he could.
Bollocks TJ has been awesome, he was great last year before injury. He was def #2 until he was injured.
Wtf? It's hardly controversial to state that TJ didn't exactly become a world beater. Are you seriously going to argue he was awesome in black?
Yes, he had a really crap period, got dropped, and came back very strong afterwards. He's a cut above fucking Christie, that's for sure
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Okay my first stab at a 2024 AB team, obviously we have a whole Super Season before then.
- De Groot
- Sami T
- Lomax
- Vaai
- S. Barrett (vc)
- Finau
- Papalii
- A. Savea (c)
- Roigard
- DMac
- Telea
- J. Barrett (vc)
- R. Ioane
- S. Stevenson
- W. Jordan
Bench: Taylor, Williams, Newell, Lord, Blackadder, Fakatava, Perofeta, Proctor.
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2024:
Strange and PPP in the same category for me.
So fair to say we’re not expecting the next Retallick and Whitelock then ?
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@booboo said in All Blacks 2024:
Strange and PPP in the same category for me.
So fair to say we’re not expecting the next Retallick and Whitelock then ?
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@booboo said in All Blacks 2024:
Strange and PPP in the same category for me.
So fair to say we’re not expecting the next Retallick and Whitelock then ?
I'm surprised there aren't teenage Whitelocks runnning around looking about 30 years old..
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Okay my first stab at a 2024 AB team, obviously we have a whole Super Season before then.
- De Groot
- Sami T
- Lomax
- Vaai
- S. Barrett (vc)
- Finau
- Papalii
- A. Savea (c)
- Roigard
- DMac
- Telea
- J. Barrett (vc)
- R. Ioane
- S. Stevenson
- W. Jordan
Bench: Taylor, Williams, Newell, Lord, Blackadder, Fakatava, Perofeta, Proctor.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2024:
Okay my first stab at a 2024 AB team, obviously we have a whole Super Season before then.
- De Groot
- Sami T
- Lomax
- Vaai
- S. Barrett
- Finau
- Papalii
- A. Savea (c)
- Roigard
- DMac
- Telea
- J. Barrett
- R. Ioane
- S. Stevenson
- W. Jordan
Bench: Taylor, Williams, Newell, Lord, Jacobson, Fakatava, Perofeta, Proctor.
Lord to start
Scooter skipper
Any option but Jacobsen ... not that he's not up to it ... but just want more... looking for more in our back up lock/6.
Stevenson ... yeah nah -
@booboo said in All Blacks 2024:
Strange and PPP in the same category for me.
So fair to say we’re not expecting the next Retallick and Whitelock then ?
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:
@booboo said in All Blacks 2024:
Strange and PPP in the same category for me.
So fair to say we’re not expecting the next Retallick and Whitelock then ?
Not from those two
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2024:
Okay my first stab at a 2024 AB team, obviously we have a whole Super Season before then.
- De Groot
- Sami T
- Lomax
- Vaai
- S. Barrett
- Finau
- Papalii
- A. Savea (c)
- Roigard
- DMac
- Telea
- J. Barrett
- R. Ioane
- S. Stevenson
- W. Jordan
Bench: Taylor, Williams, Newell, Lord, Jacobson, Fakatava, Perofeta, Proctor.
Lord to start
Scooter skipper
Any option but Jacobsen ... not that he's not up to it ... but just want more... looking for more in our back up lock/6.
Stevenson ... yeah nah -
@booboo said in All Blacks 2024:
Yep, both the Cantabs.
And keeping an eye out through Super Rugby.
If we discover a proper 6/lock, something interesting to see might be Kirifi on the bench.
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We should have enough in the Back Three. Mark Telea will have one Wing spot stitched up for a bit. Will Jordan will be in there for sure. I think I read somewhere that Leicester Fainga’anuku’s deal with Toulon is only until June so he may be back for the 2024 EOYT.
Caleb Clarke went backwards in 2023, but has huge potential. Shaun Stevenson is great in attack but will need to learn not to be a defensive liability.
Reuben Love will be an AB sooner or later. Narawa may get another shot. Sevu Reece and Braydon Ennor should be back from injury in 2024. Kini Naholo is worth keeping an eye on.
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Midfield - an area of strength.
Pen in the Jordie Barrett and Reiko Ioane partnership for the next few years.
Behind them we’ve got ALB, Billy Proctor, David Havili, Quinn Tupaea, Dallas McLeod and Braydon Ennor.
@sparky said in All Blacks 2024:
Midfield - an area of strength.
Pen in the Jordie Barrett and Reiko Ioane partnership for the next few years.
If you don’t mind I’ve just edited this post to get rid of superfluous and blatantly untrue crap. Hope you don’t mind.
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First Five - NZ Rugby looks thin here.
DMac is the obvious pick to start. Both Beauden Barrett and Richie Mo’unga are off to Japan for a bit and could be back by 2027 to be RWC squad members, but younger options are needed.
I’d like to see more of David Havili at First Five to see if he is a Test option. Stephen Perofeta looked great at Ten for the All Blacks XV, but needs more time playing there at Super Level.
Beyond that, the cupboard looks rather bare.
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Half Back - Time for a bit of a rethink.
We’re losing our greatest ever Half Back. Thanks Nuggie. Brad Webber’s off too, a good guy who should have been there in France for the RWC.
Finlay Christie, we’ve seen what you can offer. Thanks, but no thanks.
So what have we got instead?
Cam Roigard, obviously. I honestly think he could develop into one of the World’s best half backs in the next few years.
Fakatava - worth another look if he can stay fit and sharp.
Drummond - Just the Seven Super Titles with the Crusaders. You don’t play 100+ games for the Crusaders if there is not something about you. Enough said, a winner. He should have received a lot more All Blacks caps than he already has.
Ratima - Lots of potential. If he works hard he could be a quality Test player.
