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  • boobooB booboo

    Strange and PPP in the same category for me.

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    @booboo said in All Blacks 2024:

    Strange and PPP in the same category for me.

    To be fair, I kinda wish PPP had Strange's drive.

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      Okay my first stab at a 2024 AB team, obviously we have a whole Super Season before then.

      1. De Groot
      2. Sami T
      3. Lomax
      4. Vaai
      5. S. Barrett (vc)
      6. Finau
      7. Papalii
      8. A. Savea (c)
      9. Roigard
      10. DMac
      11. Telea
      12. J. Barrett (vc)
      13. R. Ioane
      14. S. Stevenson
      15. W. Jordan

      Bench: Taylor, Williams, Newell, Lord, Blackadder, Fakatava, Perofeta, Proctor.

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      • boobooB booboo

        Strange and PPP in the same category for me.

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        @booboo said in All Blacks 2024:

        Strange and PPP in the same category for me.

        So fair to say we’re not expecting the next Retallick and Whitelock then ?

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          Lock and First Five look to be the positions where we have the least depth. Losing Aaron Smith denies us a massive amount of leadership and experience at Half Back.

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            @booboo said in All Blacks 2024:

            Strange and PPP in the same category for me.

            So fair to say we’re not expecting the next Retallick and Whitelock then ?

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            @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

            @booboo said in All Blacks 2024:

            Strange and PPP in the same category for me.

            So fair to say we’re not expecting the next Retallick and Whitelock then ?

            I'm surprised there aren't teenage Whitelocks runnning around looking about 30 years old..

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              Okay my first stab at a 2024 AB team, obviously we have a whole Super Season before then.

              1. De Groot
              2. Sami T
              3. Lomax
              4. Vaai
              5. S. Barrett (vc)
              6. Finau
              7. Papalii
              8. A. Savea (c)
              9. Roigard
              10. DMac
              11. Telea
              12. J. Barrett (vc)
              13. R. Ioane
              14. S. Stevenson
              15. W. Jordan

              Bench: Taylor, Williams, Newell, Lord, Blackadder, Fakatava, Perofeta, Proctor.

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              @sparky said in All Blacks 2024:

              Okay my first stab at a 2024 AB team, obviously we have a whole Super Season before then.

              1. De Groot
              2. Sami T
              3. Lomax
              4. Vaai
              5. S. Barrett
              6. Finau
              7. Papalii
              8. A. Savea (c)
              9. Roigard
              10. DMac
              11. Telea
              12. J. Barrett
              13. R. Ioane
              14. S. Stevenson
              15. W. Jordan

              Bench: Taylor, Williams, Newell, Lord, Jacobson, Fakatava, Perofeta, Proctor.

              Lord to start
              Scooter skipper
              Any option but Jacobsen ... not that he's not up to it ... but just want more... looking for more in our back up lock/6.
              Stevenson ... yeah nah

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              • MN5M MN5

                @booboo said in All Blacks 2024:

                Strange and PPP in the same category for me.

                So fair to say we’re not expecting the next Retallick and Whitelock then ?

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                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

                @booboo said in All Blacks 2024:

                Strange and PPP in the same category for me.

                So fair to say we’re not expecting the next Retallick and Whitelock then ?

                Not from those two

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                • boobooB booboo

                  @sparky said in All Blacks 2024:

                  Okay my first stab at a 2024 AB team, obviously we have a whole Super Season before then.

                  1. De Groot
                  2. Sami T
                  3. Lomax
                  4. Vaai
                  5. S. Barrett
                  6. Finau
                  7. Papalii
                  8. A. Savea (c)
                  9. Roigard
                  10. DMac
                  11. Telea
                  12. J. Barrett
                  13. R. Ioane
                  14. S. Stevenson
                  15. W. Jordan

                  Bench: Taylor, Williams, Newell, Lord, Jacobson, Fakatava, Perofeta, Proctor.

                  Lord to start
                  Scooter skipper
                  Any option but Jacobsen ... not that he's not up to it ... but just want more... looking for more in our back up lock/6.
                  Stevenson ... yeah nah

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                  @booboo Yep, Blackadder and Grace ahead of Jacobson. Maybe Harmon and Flanders too. There is lots of back row depth.

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                    Yep, both the Cantabs.

                    And keeping an eye out through Super Rugby.

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                    • boobooB booboo

                      Yep, both the Cantabs.

                      And keeping an eye out through Super Rugby.

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                      @booboo said in All Blacks 2024:

                      Yep, both the Cantabs.

                      And keeping an eye out through Super Rugby.

                      If we discover a proper 6/lock, something interesting to see might be Kirifi on the bench.

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                        We should have enough in the Back Three. Mark Telea will have one Wing spot stitched up for a bit. Will Jordan will be in there for sure. I think I read somewhere that Leicester Fainga’anuku’s deal with Toulon is only until June so he may be back for the 2024 EOYT.

                        Caleb Clarke went backwards in 2023, but has huge potential. Shaun Stevenson is great in attack but will need to learn not to be a defensive liability.

                        Reuben Love will be an AB sooner or later. Narawa may get another shot. Sevu Reece and Braydon Ennor should be back from injury in 2024. Kini Naholo is worth keeping an eye on.

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                          Midfield - an area of strength.

                          Pen in the Jordie Barrett and Reiko Ioane partnership for the next few years.

                          Behind them we’ve got ALB, Billy Proctor, David Havili, Quinn Tupaea, Dallas McLeod and Braydon Ennor.

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                            Midfield - an area of strength.

                            Pen in the Jordie Barrett and Reiko Ioane partnership for the next few years.

                            Behind them we’ve got ALB, Billy Proctor, David Havili, Quinn Tupaea, Dallas McLeod and Braydon Ennor.

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                            @sparky said in All Blacks 2024:

                            Midfield - an area of strength.

                            Pen in the Jordie Barrett and Reiko Ioane partnership for the next few years.

                            If you don’t mind I’ve just edited this post to get rid of superfluous and blatantly untrue crap. Hope you don’t mind.

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                              First Five - NZ Rugby looks thin here.

                              DMac is the obvious pick to start. Both Beauden Barrett and Richie Mo’unga are off to Japan for a bit and could be back by 2027 to be RWC squad members, but younger options are needed.

                              I’d like to see more of David Havili at First Five to see if he is a Test option. Stephen Perofeta looked great at Ten for the All Blacks XV, but needs more time playing there at Super Level.

                              Beyond that, the cupboard looks rather bare.

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                                Half Back - Time for a bit of a rethink.

                                We’re losing our greatest ever Half Back. Thanks Nuggie. Brad Webber’s off too, a good guy who should have been there in France for the RWC.

                                Finlay Christie, we’ve seen what you can offer. Thanks, but no thanks.

                                So what have we got instead?

                                Cam Roigard, obviously. I honestly think he could develop into one of the World’s best half backs in the next few years.

                                Fakatava - worth another look if he can stay fit and sharp.

                                Drummond - Just the Seven Super Titles with the Crusaders. You don’t play 100+ games for the Crusaders if there is not something about you. Enough said, a winner. He should have received a lot more All Blacks caps than he already has.

                                Ratima - Lots of potential. If he works hard he could be a quality Test player.

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                                • sparkyS sparky

                                  Midfield - an area of strength.

                                  Pen in the Jordie Barrett and Reiko Ioane partnership for the next few years.

                                  Behind them we’ve got ALB, Billy Proctor, David Havili, Quinn Tupaea, Dallas McLeod and Braydon Ennor.

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                                  @sparky said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  Midfield - an area of strength.

                                  Pen in the Jordie Barrett and Reiko Ioane partnership for the next few years.

                                  Behind them we’ve got ALB, Billy Proctor, David Havili, Quinn Tupaea, Dallas McLeod and Braydon Ennor.

                                  Riley Higgins will put pressure on all of them if he gets plenty of game time.

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                                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                    @sparky said in All Blacks 2024:

                                    Midfield - an area of strength.

                                    Pen in the Jordie Barrett and Reiko Ioane partnership for the next few years.

                                    Behind them we’ve got ALB, Billy Proctor, David Havili, Quinn Tupaea, Dallas McLeod and Braydon Ennor.

                                    Riley Higgins will put pressure on all of them if he gets plenty of game time.

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                                    @Canes4life Maybe, let’s judge him again when we’ve seen him more at Super Rugby level.

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                                      Locks - Scott Barrett for sure.

                                      And then?

                                      I’m really not sure. Josh Lord, Patrick Tuipolutu and Tupou Vaii are the incumbents, but each needs to kick on a bit if they are to keep being selected.

                                      Beyond that, maybe Sam Darry? Selby-Ricket? Ah Kuoi? Strange? Dunshea? Gallagher? PPP? Walker- Laewere? Josh Dickson?

                                      Lots of guy who are okay, but not really who’d want facing the Spingboks, England, France or Ireland. Heaps of work to be done.

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                                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        Midfield - an area of strength.

                                        Pen in the Jordie Barrett and Reiko Ioane partnership for the next few years.

                                        Behind them we’ve got ALB, Billy Proctor, David Havili, Quinn Tupaea, Dallas McLeod and Braydon Ennor.

                                        Riley Higgins will put pressure on all of them if he gets plenty of game time.

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                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        Midfield - an area of strength.

                                        Pen in the Jordie Barrett and Reiko Ioane partnership for the next few years.

                                        Behind them we’ve got ALB, Billy Proctor, David Havili, Quinn Tupaea, Dallas McLeod and Braydon Ennor.

                                        Riley Higgins will put pressure on all of them if he gets plenty of game time.

                                        Given they’re all either unproven or not up to it that shouldn’t be hard

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                                          Props - We’re in a really good place here.

                                          Ethan De Groot, Tyrell Lomax, Tamati Williams and Fletcher Newell are all young enough to go again in the next RWC cycle and if they can mostly stay fit develop into the best combo around by 2027.

                                          Ofa T will be around for a bit and covers both sides, but I suspect French and British clubs will be calling when his contract next runs out.

                                          Beyond that, Numia and Ainsley are quality players and should get Test game time.

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