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  • D DaGrubster

    @akan004

    I was really impressed with him starting and playing well in Argentina this year, after being out for so long and struggling to get back into a well performing Chiefs side.

    scooter should be there for the whole of the next World Cup cycle. Lord should become more influential in that period.

    I don’t know much about 3 others being touted for the future - Darry and Holland.

    How good do these guys look?

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    @DaGrubster Don't rate Darry at all from what I have seen, he came with a lot of hype but hasn't delivered. Hopefully he steps up next year. Holland looks good and is huge, especially by NZ standards. Unfortunately he won't be eligible for the ABs until late 2025.

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    • sparkyS sparky

      @Victor-Meldrew @Nepia @taniwharugby I remember in the mid 1990s when Christian Cullen first burst on the Rugby scene my Grandad and his mates agreed over a beer that he was the sharpest runner with the ball in hand they had seen since Bert Cooke which I think gives an idea of how good BC was.

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      @sparky I thnk I read there had been comparisons made to, although Cully was huge compared to BC!

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          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:

          @Victor-Meldrew I obviously never saw him play but the reports about his play would suggest I would have loved to see him play...even as a tiny man compared to today's game

          You'd have to ask @nepia, but I'd imagine a bit like a shorter and skinnier DMac.

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          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:

          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:

          @Victor-Meldrew I obviously never saw him play but the reports about his play would suggest I would have loved to see him play...even as a tiny man compared to today's game

          You'd have to ask @nepia, but I'd imagine a bit like a shorter and skinnier DMac.

          Jeepers, that would make his head look even more oversized

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            DH at first-5, please no, seriously no. It's better to risk it on someone young and developing (Sullivan, Love) that select a "safe set of hands journeyman" that will only ever be a safe set of hands journeyman.

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            • A akan004

              @DaGrubster Don't rate Darry at all from what I have seen, he came with a lot of hype but hasn't delivered. Hopefully he steps up next year. Holland looks good and is huge, especially by NZ standards. Unfortunately he won't be eligible for the ABs until late 2025.

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              @akan004 said in All Blacks 2024:

              Don't rate Darry at all from what I have seen, he came with a lot of hype but hasn't delivered. Hopefully he steps up next year.

              Darry had a couple of strong games in the middle of last season then reverted to type. Too many errors and his contact work needs to get better

              It'll be interesting to see how many opportunities he gets. Suafoa was far better than him last year and McWhannell is a good player who's had terrible luck with injuries. Hopefully the Blues have Beehre too. I would rate Darry last out of that group

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                @akan004 said in All Blacks 2024:

                Don't rate Darry at all from what I have seen, he came with a lot of hype but hasn't delivered. Hopefully he steps up next year.

                Darry had a couple of strong games in the middle of last season then reverted to type. Too many errors and his contact work needs to get better

                It'll be interesting to see how many opportunities he gets. Suafoa was far better than him last year and McWhannell is a good player who's had terrible luck with injuries. Hopefully the Blues have Beehre too. I would rate Darry last out of that group

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                @Duluth

                McWhannell I really rate he could be an AB if he can stay fit and not get injured.

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                • sparkyS sparky

                  @Victor-Meldrew @Nepia @taniwharugby I remember in the mid 1990s when Christian Cullen first burst on the Rugby scene my Grandad and his mates agreed over a beer that he was the sharpest runner with the ball in hand they had seen since Bert Cooke which I think gives an idea of how good BC was.

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                  @sparky said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @Victor-Meldrew @Nepia @taniwharugby I remember in the mid 1990s when Christian Cullen first burst on the Rugby scene my Grandad and his mates agreed over a beer that he was the sharpest runner with the ball in hand they had seen since Bert Cooke which I think gives an idea of how good BC was.

                  Yes I remember there was an article in the Evening Post ( after Cullen had carved up the poor, brave limited Scots ) that compared the paekak express to this old codger and that they should switch him to midfield straight away.

                  Unfortunately looks like John Hart read it and stored it in the memory banks for a few years later.

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                  • DuluthD Duluth

                    @akan004 said in All Blacks 2024:

                    Don't rate Darry at all from what I have seen, he came with a lot of hype but hasn't delivered. Hopefully he steps up next year.

                    Darry had a couple of strong games in the middle of last season then reverted to type. Too many errors and his contact work needs to get better

                    It'll be interesting to see how many opportunities he gets. Suafoa was far better than him last year and McWhannell is a good player who's had terrible luck with injuries. Hopefully the Blues have Beehre too. I would rate Darry last out of that group

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                    @Duluth I rate McWhannell very highly but he is made of glass unfortunately. Beehre looks promising and would love to see Suafoa make the ABs next year, he offers size and punch which is what we need.

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      @akan004 said in All Blacks 2024:

                      Don't rate Darry at all from what I have seen, he came with a lot of hype but hasn't delivered. Hopefully he steps up next year.

                      Darry had a couple of strong games in the middle of last season then reverted to type. Too many errors and his contact work needs to get better

                      It'll be interesting to see how many opportunities he gets. Suafoa was far better than him last year and McWhannell is a good player who's had terrible luck with injuries. Hopefully the Blues have Beehre too. I would rate Darry last out of that group

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                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @akan004 said in All Blacks 2024:

                      Don't rate Darry at all from what I have seen, he came with a lot of hype but hasn't delivered. Hopefully he steps up next year.

                      Darry had a couple of strong games in the middle of last season then reverted to type. Too many errors and his contact work needs to get better

                      It'll be interesting to see how many opportunities he gets. Suafoa was far better than him last year and McWhannell is a good player who's had terrible luck with injuries. Hopefully the Blues have Beehre too. I would rate Darry last out of that group

                      Does Annandale make the squad?

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                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                        @akan004 said in All Blacks 2024:

                        Don't rate Darry at all from what I have seen, he came with a lot of hype but hasn't delivered. Hopefully he steps up next year.

                        Darry had a couple of strong games in the middle of last season then reverted to type. Too many errors and his contact work needs to get better

                        It'll be interesting to see how many opportunities he gets. Suafoa was far better than him last year and McWhannell is a good player who's had terrible luck with injuries. Hopefully the Blues have Beehre too. I would rate Darry last out of that group

                        Does Annandale make the squad?

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                        @booboo someone said in the Blues thread that he missed out (Nogusta I think?)

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                          Suafoa could be a player to look at as a bench 6/8 but he isn't tall enough to be a test lock. We don't have many big 2 m+ locks now.

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                            Suafoa could be a player to look at as a bench 6/8 but he isn't tall enough to be a test lock. We don't have many big 2 m+ locks now.

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                            @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:

                            Suafoa could be a player to look at as a bench 6/8 but he isn't tall enough to be a test lock. We don't have many big 2 m+ locks now.

                            Yeah I think Eben, RG, Peter Steph and the boys would laugh at some of the contenders.

                            Fuck me are we going to miss Whitelock and Retallick or what ?

                            Thank goodness the fattest Barrett ( relatively speaking ) became awesome. That’s something at least. He’s bloody good for a midget ( again, relatively speaking )

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                              @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @KiwiMurph How did he go?

                              71-9 IIRC

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                              @booboo https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/rugby-world-cup/rwc-2019-japan/116367812/all-blacks-v-namibia-jordie-barrett-gets-a-kick-out-of-his-standin-role-at-no-10

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                                Yep, we are in trouble at lock. A few young guys have the size for test level rugby i.e. Fabian Holland (2.04m, 118kg) and Josh Taula (2.03m, 124kg) but one isn't eligible until 2025, and the other seems short on a few brain cells.

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                                  Yep, we are in trouble at lock. A few young guys have the size for test level rugby i.e. Fabian Holland (2.04m, 118kg) and Josh Taula (2.03m, 124kg) but one isn't eligible until 2025, and the other seems short on a few brain cells.

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                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  the other seems short on a few brain cells.

                                  Seems perfect for a tight forward

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                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                    the other seems short on a few brain cells.

                                    Seems perfect for a tight forward

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                                    @Machpants he played two NPC games in 2023 and was red carded in one of them for being an absolute moron. If you can channel him in the right way though he could be a talent. He's only 21.

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                                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                      @Machpants he played two NPC games in 2023 and was red carded in one of them for being an absolute moron. If you can channel him in the right way though he could be a talent. He's only 21.

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                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @Machpants he played two NPC games in 2023 and was red carded in one of them for being an absolute moron. If you can channel him in the right way though he could be a talent. He's only 21.

                                      One red card a game seems to be expected at AB level these days. Sigh.

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                                        so Sam Cane has to appear before World Rugby. Poor bastard, think he's had enough bad news lately.

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                                        • M Machpants

                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          the other seems short on a few brain cells.

                                          Seems perfect for a tight forward

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                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          the other seems short on a few brain cells.

                                          Seems perfect for a tight forward

                                          Exactly. As long as the forwards coach spins him round at half time and tells him to run in the opposite direction he’ll be fine.

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