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  • DuluthD Duluth

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:

    And Robinson and NZR have said no.

    Yeah Robertson talked about how he was going to lobby for a change, then Robinson shut down that talk in a subsequent press release

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    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:

    And Robinson and NZR have said no.

    Yeah Robertson talked about how he was going to lobby for a change, then Robinson shut down that talk in a subsequent press release

    I think it's pretty dumb to dismiss ideas out of hand like that. Should be open to new ideas and experiences from other countries.

    Plus ca change

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    • S SBW1

      Even heard talk of Jordie having a go at 10, not sure if it is a joke. He does have a powerful boot, he would need to improve the accuracy of his clearances and exits, not to mention ball distribution. I don't profess to be an expert, he is a strong dude and wouldn't get shoved around. Dan wasn't small either.

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      @SBW1 Jordie has played 10 for the ABs before.

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        When is Quinn Tupaea back? Any talk about our midfield should include him assuming he can get back to where he was.

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        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

          @booboo said in All Blacks 2024:

          @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:

          @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:

          Rough on Bunce, Stanley and 1920s superstar Bert Cooke.

          Bert Cooke was shit compared to Karl Ifwersen......

          Jesus, how drunk old are you?

          FIFY

          Anyone who can remember Bert Cooke must be older than my dad...

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          @Victor-Meldrew I obviously never saw him play but the reports about his play would suggest I would have loved to see him play...even as a tiny man compared to today's game

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            When is Quinn Tupaea back? Any talk about our midfield should include him assuming he can get back to where he was.

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            @mooshld He returned for Waikato in the NPC.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              @SBW1 Jordie has played 10 for the ABs before.

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              @KiwiMurph How did he go?

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                  @KiwiMurph How did he go?

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                  @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @KiwiMurph How did he go?

                  71-9 IIRC

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                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                    @Victor-Meldrew I obviously never saw him play but the reports about his play would suggest I would have loved to see him play...even as a tiny man compared to today's game

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                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @Victor-Meldrew I obviously never saw him play but the reports about his play would suggest I would have loved to see him play...even as a tiny man compared to today's game

                    You'd have to ask @nepia, but I'd imagine a bit like a shorter and skinnier DMac.

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                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @Victor-Meldrew I obviously never saw him play but the reports about his play would suggest I would have loved to see him play...even as a tiny man compared to today's game

                      You'd have to ask @nepia, but I'd imagine a bit like a shorter and skinnier DMac.

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                      @Victor-Meldrew @Nepia @taniwharugby I remember in the mid 1990s when Christian Cullen first burst on the Rugby scene my Grandad and his mates agreed over a beer that he was the sharpest runner with the ball in hand they had seen since Bert Cooke which I think gives an idea of how good BC was.

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                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:

                        I thought Lord looked like he had put on some good size this year when he came back, but missed out.

                        I think game time was his biggest hurdle to make the RWC this year so I think.next year he will be a key figure if he doesn't pick up any more injuries

                        He looked even bigger in the NPC than he did when he was with the ABs. I remember Brodie saying before the Twickenham test that he's the heaviest lock in the ABs (which I found hard to believe). Really hope he can step up and remain injury free.

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                        @akan004

                        I was really impressed with him starting and playing well in Argentina this year, after being out for so long and struggling to get back into a well performing Chiefs side.

                        scooter should be there for the whole of the next World Cup cycle. Lord should become more influential in that period.

                        I don’t know much about 3 others being touted for the future - Darry and Holland.

                        How good do these guys look?

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                          @akan004

                          I was really impressed with him starting and playing well in Argentina this year, after being out for so long and struggling to get back into a well performing Chiefs side.

                          scooter should be there for the whole of the next World Cup cycle. Lord should become more influential in that period.

                          I don’t know much about 3 others being touted for the future - Darry and Holland.

                          How good do these guys look?

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                          @DaGrubster Don't rate Darry at all from what I have seen, he came with a lot of hype but hasn't delivered. Hopefully he steps up next year. Holland looks good and is huge, especially by NZ standards. Unfortunately he won't be eligible for the ABs until late 2025.

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                          • sparkyS sparky

                            @Victor-Meldrew @Nepia @taniwharugby I remember in the mid 1990s when Christian Cullen first burst on the Rugby scene my Grandad and his mates agreed over a beer that he was the sharpest runner with the ball in hand they had seen since Bert Cooke which I think gives an idea of how good BC was.

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                            @sparky I thnk I read there had been comparisons made to, although Cully was huge compared to BC!

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                              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @Victor-Meldrew I obviously never saw him play but the reports about his play would suggest I would have loved to see him play...even as a tiny man compared to today's game

                                You'd have to ask @nepia, but I'd imagine a bit like a shorter and skinnier DMac.

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                                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @Victor-Meldrew I obviously never saw him play but the reports about his play would suggest I would have loved to see him play...even as a tiny man compared to today's game

                                You'd have to ask @nepia, but I'd imagine a bit like a shorter and skinnier DMac.

                                Jeepers, that would make his head look even more oversized

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                                  DH at first-5, please no, seriously no. It's better to risk it on someone young and developing (Sullivan, Love) that select a "safe set of hands journeyman" that will only ever be a safe set of hands journeyman.

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                                  • A akan004

                                    @DaGrubster Don't rate Darry at all from what I have seen, he came with a lot of hype but hasn't delivered. Hopefully he steps up next year. Holland looks good and is huge, especially by NZ standards. Unfortunately he won't be eligible for the ABs until late 2025.

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                                    @akan004 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                    Don't rate Darry at all from what I have seen, he came with a lot of hype but hasn't delivered. Hopefully he steps up next year.

                                    Darry had a couple of strong games in the middle of last season then reverted to type. Too many errors and his contact work needs to get better

                                    It'll be interesting to see how many opportunities he gets. Suafoa was far better than him last year and McWhannell is a good player who's had terrible luck with injuries. Hopefully the Blues have Beehre too. I would rate Darry last out of that group

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                                    • DuluthD Duluth

                                      @akan004 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      Don't rate Darry at all from what I have seen, he came with a lot of hype but hasn't delivered. Hopefully he steps up next year.

                                      Darry had a couple of strong games in the middle of last season then reverted to type. Too many errors and his contact work needs to get better

                                      It'll be interesting to see how many opportunities he gets. Suafoa was far better than him last year and McWhannell is a good player who's had terrible luck with injuries. Hopefully the Blues have Beehre too. I would rate Darry last out of that group

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                                      @Duluth

                                      McWhannell I really rate he could be an AB if he can stay fit and not get injured.

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                                      • sparkyS sparky

                                        @Victor-Meldrew @Nepia @taniwharugby I remember in the mid 1990s when Christian Cullen first burst on the Rugby scene my Grandad and his mates agreed over a beer that he was the sharpest runner with the ball in hand they had seen since Bert Cooke which I think gives an idea of how good BC was.

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                                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew @Nepia @taniwharugby I remember in the mid 1990s when Christian Cullen first burst on the Rugby scene my Grandad and his mates agreed over a beer that he was the sharpest runner with the ball in hand they had seen since Bert Cooke which I think gives an idea of how good BC was.

                                        Yes I remember there was an article in the Evening Post ( after Cullen had carved up the poor, brave limited Scots ) that compared the paekak express to this old codger and that they should switch him to midfield straight away.

                                        Unfortunately looks like John Hart read it and stored it in the memory banks for a few years later.

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          @akan004 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          Don't rate Darry at all from what I have seen, he came with a lot of hype but hasn't delivered. Hopefully he steps up next year.

                                          Darry had a couple of strong games in the middle of last season then reverted to type. Too many errors and his contact work needs to get better

                                          It'll be interesting to see how many opportunities he gets. Suafoa was far better than him last year and McWhannell is a good player who's had terrible luck with injuries. Hopefully the Blues have Beehre too. I would rate Darry last out of that group

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                                          @Duluth I rate McWhannell very highly but he is made of glass unfortunately. Beehre looks promising and would love to see Suafoa make the ABs next year, he offers size and punch which is what we need.

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