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    It was clearly to make Richie Mounga eligible because of needing a good 10. Hopefully there is a big focus this year at Super level at developing a replacement or two.

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    • BonesB Bones

      @booboo said in All Blacks 2024:

      Yep, both the Cantabs.

      And keeping an eye out through Super Rugby.

      If we discover a proper 6/lock, something interesting to see might be Kirifi on the bench.

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      @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

      @booboo said in All Blacks 2024:

      Yep, both the Cantabs.

      And keeping an eye out through Super Rugby.

      If we discover a proper 6/lock, something interesting to see might be Kirifi on the bench.

      define interesting

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      • S SBW1

        It was clearly to make Richie Mounga eligible because of needing a good 10. Hopefully there is a big focus this year at Super level at developing a replacement or two.

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        @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:

        It was clearly to make Richie Mounga eligible because of needing a good 10. Hopefully there is a big focus this year at Super level at developing a replacement or two.

        Maybe Razor should have focused his interest on convincing Mo to stay.

        A change in policy based on one player is the worst type of policy.

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          I 100% think we should change the policy to keep a player who kicked us to victory at the WC.

          Hold on.

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          • boobooB booboo

            @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:

            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:

            @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:

            Rough on Bunce, Stanley and 1920s superstar Bert Cooke.

            Bert Cooke was shit compared to Karl Ifwersen......

            Jesus, how drunk old are you?

            FIFY

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            @booboo said in All Blacks 2024:

            @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:

            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:

            @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:

            Rough on Bunce, Stanley and 1920s superstar Bert Cooke.

            Bert Cooke was shit compared to Karl Ifwersen......

            Jesus, how drunk old are you?

            FIFY

            Anyone who can remember Bert Cooke must be older than my dad...

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            • NepiaN Nepia

              @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:

              It was clearly to make Richie Mounga eligible because of needing a good 10. Hopefully there is a big focus this year at Super level at developing a replacement or two.

              Maybe Razor should have focused his interest on convincing Mo to stay.

              A change in policy based on one player is the worst type of policy.

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              @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:

              @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:

              It was clearly to make Richie Mounga eligible because of needing a good 10. Hopefully there is a big focus this year at Super level at developing a replacement or two.

              Maybe Razor should have focused his interest on convincing Mo to stay.

              A change in policy based on one player is the worst type of policy.

              It’s worth looking into when David Havilii is mentioned as a potential replacement

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                Even heard talk of Jordie having a go at 10, not sure if it is a joke. He does have a powerful boot, he would need to improve the accuracy of his clearances and exits, not to mention ball distribution. I don't profess to be an expert, he is a strong dude and wouldn't get shoved around. Dan wasn't small either.

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                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:

                  And Robinson and NZR have said no.

                  Yeah Robertson talked about how he was going to lobby for a change, then Robinson shut down that talk in a subsequent press release

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                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024:

                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:

                  And Robinson and NZR have said no.

                  Yeah Robertson talked about how he was going to lobby for a change, then Robinson shut down that talk in a subsequent press release

                  I think it's pretty dumb to dismiss ideas out of hand like that. Should be open to new ideas and experiences from other countries.

                  Plus ca change

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                    Even heard talk of Jordie having a go at 10, not sure if it is a joke. He does have a powerful boot, he would need to improve the accuracy of his clearances and exits, not to mention ball distribution. I don't profess to be an expert, he is a strong dude and wouldn't get shoved around. Dan wasn't small either.

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                    KiwiMurph
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                    @SBW1 Jordie has played 10 for the ABs before.

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                      When is Quinn Tupaea back? Any talk about our midfield should include him assuming he can get back to where he was.

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                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                        @booboo said in All Blacks 2024:

                        @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024:

                        @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024:

                        Rough on Bunce, Stanley and 1920s superstar Bert Cooke.

                        Bert Cooke was shit compared to Karl Ifwersen......

                        Jesus, how drunk old are you?

                        FIFY

                        Anyone who can remember Bert Cooke must be older than my dad...

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                        @Victor-Meldrew I obviously never saw him play but the reports about his play would suggest I would have loved to see him play...even as a tiny man compared to today's game

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                          When is Quinn Tupaea back? Any talk about our midfield should include him assuming he can get back to where he was.

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                          Bovidae
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                          @mooshld He returned for Waikato in the NPC.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            @SBW1 Jordie has played 10 for the ABs before.

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                            @KiwiMurph How did he go?

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                                @KiwiMurph How did he go?

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                                @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @KiwiMurph How did he go?

                                71-9 IIRC

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                                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                  @Victor-Meldrew I obviously never saw him play but the reports about his play would suggest I would have loved to see him play...even as a tiny man compared to today's game

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                                  @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  @Victor-Meldrew I obviously never saw him play but the reports about his play would suggest I would have loved to see him play...even as a tiny man compared to today's game

                                  You'd have to ask @nepia, but I'd imagine a bit like a shorter and skinnier DMac.

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                                  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                    @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:

                                    @Victor-Meldrew I obviously never saw him play but the reports about his play would suggest I would have loved to see him play...even as a tiny man compared to today's game

                                    You'd have to ask @nepia, but I'd imagine a bit like a shorter and skinnier DMac.

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                                    @Victor-Meldrew @Nepia @taniwharugby I remember in the mid 1990s when Christian Cullen first burst on the Rugby scene my Grandad and his mates agreed over a beer that he was the sharpest runner with the ball in hand they had seen since Bert Cooke which I think gives an idea of how good BC was.

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                                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      I thought Lord looked like he had put on some good size this year when he came back, but missed out.

                                      I think game time was his biggest hurdle to make the RWC this year so I think.next year he will be a key figure if he doesn't pick up any more injuries

                                      He looked even bigger in the NPC than he did when he was with the ABs. I remember Brodie saying before the Twickenham test that he's the heaviest lock in the ABs (which I found hard to believe). Really hope he can step up and remain injury free.

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                                      @akan004

                                      I was really impressed with him starting and playing well in Argentina this year, after being out for so long and struggling to get back into a well performing Chiefs side.

                                      scooter should be there for the whole of the next World Cup cycle. Lord should become more influential in that period.

                                      I don’t know much about 3 others being touted for the future - Darry and Holland.

                                      How good do these guys look?

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                                        @akan004

                                        I was really impressed with him starting and playing well in Argentina this year, after being out for so long and struggling to get back into a well performing Chiefs side.

                                        scooter should be there for the whole of the next World Cup cycle. Lord should become more influential in that period.

                                        I don’t know much about 3 others being touted for the future - Darry and Holland.

                                        How good do these guys look?

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                                        @DaGrubster Don't rate Darry at all from what I have seen, he came with a lot of hype but hasn't delivered. Hopefully he steps up next year. Holland looks good and is huge, especially by NZ standards. Unfortunately he won't be eligible for the ABs until late 2025.

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                                        • sparkyS sparky

                                          @Victor-Meldrew @Nepia @taniwharugby I remember in the mid 1990s when Christian Cullen first burst on the Rugby scene my Grandad and his mates agreed over a beer that he was the sharpest runner with the ball in hand they had seen since Bert Cooke which I think gives an idea of how good BC was.

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                                          @sparky I thnk I read there had been comparisons made to, although Cully was huge compared to BC!

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