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  • DonsteppaD Offline
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    @Catogrande said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @Dodge said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    Glad to hear cricket has woken up a bit, shame they haven’t protected the non pro women’s game

    Beyond their remit?

    Possibly, but a lot of the regulations and guidelines do end up drifting downwards to the community game. I suspect the ICC decision will make the conversations easier.

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    @Donsteppa said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @Catogrande said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @Dodge said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    Glad to hear cricket has woken up a bit, shame they haven’t protected the non pro women’s game

    Beyond their remit?

    Possibly, but a lot of the regulations and guidelines do end up drifting downwards to the community game. I suspect the ICC decision will make the conversations easier.

    Yeah, that's what I'm hoping but I was just pointing out that perhaps it is more a case of influencing rather than having complete sanction over the grass roots level, which must be helluva different in all the various cricket playing countries. Sadly this takes time which may come too late for many women.

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    @Catogrande said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    So he was likely Bi and we can now forget about the 4 women he married and all that counts is the one guy he married, all based on texts from the day that historically have been shown to be biased smears on unpopular figures.

    Bit like the exploits of that Florence Nightingale bloke in the Crimean War

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    @Catogrande said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    all based on texts from the day that historically have been shown to be biased smears on unpopular figures.

    Texting really hasn't changed over the last couple of millennia. Cyber bullying has been around for, like, 4eva. Esp 4 ppl like Elagabalus, prolly got dissed for marrying a slave too.

    Re cricket - this is the important part I reckon "“The changes to the gender eligibility regulations resulted from an extensive consultation process and are founded in science,"

    Last three words are the key for all governing bodies that want to keep their playing fields level. Prove an unfair advantage (which we all know anyway) and hopefully some of the bullshit goes away.

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    @Catogrande said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @Donsteppa said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @Catogrande said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @Dodge said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    Glad to hear cricket has woken up a bit, shame they haven’t protected the non pro women’s game

    Beyond their remit?

    Possibly, but a lot of the regulations and guidelines do end up drifting downwards to the community game. I suspect the ICC decision will make the conversations easier.

    Yeah, that's what I'm hoping but I was just pointing out that perhaps it is more a case of influencing rather than having complete sanction over the grass roots level, which must be helluva different in all the various cricket playing countries. Sadly this takes time which may come too late for many women.

    Agreed. At least now any 'but you're blocking my path to the White Ferns! ' argument is taken out of play if we have to make any local level calls...

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    The UK Equalities and Human Rights Commission is being investigated by the United Nations for in effect transphobia...

    It's been in the works for a while. The EHRC Chair was installed by Liz Truss from. and is Badenoch's puppet

    Should be interesting to watch this play out

    UK Telegraph:
    https://archive.li/WASa4

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    @BlueWall_noReds said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    The UK Equalities and Human Rights Commission is being investigated by the United Nations

    The same UN that's yet to condemn Hamas? Does anyone give a flying fuck what the UN thinks?

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    The grown ups have entered the conversation in parliament today. Kemi Badenoch has been brilliant at the Despatch Box today, crystal clear, picked up the key issues, dealt brilliantly with questions. A good summary below:

    https://x.com/jebadoo2/status/1732419059063329079?s=46&t=q6tkBviRRuJu6KSieNbO0Q

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    @Dodge She's doing extremely well. Another example:

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    @antipodean

    I love that.

    I find it amazing that someone would make that statement and not know the occasion on which it was said.

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    @antipodean

    Loved the "I'm not gay, but I want to marry Kemi." comment from a woman in the tweet replies

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    its fabulous to see someone refuse to be cowed by the usual tactics. the refusal to accept that stating facts makes you a transphobe etc exposes these arguments for the hollow slurs they really are. Go Kemi

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    Great first comment on YouTube.

    "So, just to be clear, it's unparliamentary to call someone a liar, but not unparliamentary to tell lies? The mind boggles!"

    These are just a talking shop and a colossal waste of time and MONEY.

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    I’m not sure it’s a waste of time actually, it moves what has mostly been a debate online out of the public eye into a grown up space where blocking people and living in an echo chamber is no longer possible. Shine the light.

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    @MiketheSnow said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    "So, just to be clear, it's unparliamentary to call someone a liar, but not unparliamentary to tell lies? The mind boggles!"

    MP's can lie with impunity in the HoC with zero fear of libel and do so.

    Remember the "Matt Hancock handed his Pub landlord a multi-million pound PPE Deal after secret WhatsApp messages" stories a few years back? Was exposed as as complete lie and made up story yet was repeatedly stated as fact in Parliament by Opposition MP's.

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    @Victor-Meldrew Parliamentry privilege

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    @Catogrande said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @Victor-Meldrew Parliamentry privilege

    Yep. You end up with MP's like Chris Bryant becoming Chairman of the Standards Committee.....

    Aug 10, 2023

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    The sheer brass neck of these fluffybunnies astounds me

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    @Catogrande said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @Victor-Meldrew

    The sheer brass neck of these fluffybunnies astounds me

    Speaking of brass, watch the last minute and a bit. Also notice how Rayner puts her face-mask on when she's caught out.

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