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All Blacks 2024

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  • BonesB Bones

    @booboo yeah looks to be those that were in the last AB squad. Maybe the others have been spoken to individually and given their own "plan"?

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    @booboo yeah looks to be those that were in the last AB squad. Maybe the others have been spoken to individually and given their own "plan"?

    Some will be still on leave, they come back in dribs and drabs. The change will be pushed by what Razor and Co see during SR I guess

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    • boobooB booboo

      22 - not even a full squad.

      Omissions immediately apparent to me include:

      • Lord (not RWC squad)
      • Finau (not RWC squad)

      Others?

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      @booboo yeah, could be only part of the squad to maintain some secrecy around possible new caps for the upcoming season
      OR
      Razor has invited current ABs only and he's giving them either the 👍 or the 👎 as he walks past them on the training field.

      Example:
      Razor: "I'm sorry, Finlay. Thank you for your service."

      Finlay: "But coach..."

      Razor: "Don't make this harder than it already is."

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        im sure i read somewhere this camp was for the world cup aquad still in nz.

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          @booboo yeah, could be only part of the squad to maintain some secrecy around possible new caps for the upcoming season
          OR
          Razor has invited current ABs only and he's giving them either the 👍 or the 👎 as he walks past them on the training field.

          Example:
          Razor: "I'm sorry, Finlay. Thank you for your service."

          Finlay: "But coach..."

          Razor: "Don't make this harder than it already is."

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          @Punch_up said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

          @booboo yeah, could be only part of the squad to maintain some secrecy around possible new caps for the upcoming season
          OR
          Razor has invited current ABs only and he's giving them either the 👍 or the 👎 as he walks past them on the training field.

          Example:
          Razor: "I'm sorry, Finlay. Thank you for your service."

          Finlay: "But coach..."

          Razor: "Don't make this harder than it already is."

          It makes perfect sense to start with a basis of a squad formed from the guys that were there.

          All would have reasonable expectations.

          Just trying to work out if anyone from last year missed out. Lord and Finau the only two I could think of.

          And whilst I agree re Christie Razor has to find 2x better 9s. They're probably there but let Super take it's course.

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          • boobooB booboo

            @Punch_up said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

            @booboo yeah, could be only part of the squad to maintain some secrecy around possible new caps for the upcoming season
            OR
            Razor has invited current ABs only and he's giving them either the 👍 or the 👎 as he walks past them on the training field.

            Example:
            Razor: "I'm sorry, Finlay. Thank you for your service."

            Finlay: "But coach..."

            Razor: "Don't make this harder than it already is."

            It makes perfect sense to start with a basis of a squad formed from the guys that were there.

            All would have reasonable expectations.

            Just trying to work out if anyone from last year missed out. Lord and Finau the only two I could think of.

            And whilst I agree re Christie Razor has to find 2x better 9s. They're probably there but let Super take it's course.

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            Punch_up
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            @booboo I agree, but I couldn't resist having a little fun at Christie's expense.😔

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                He tried to talk around it but it's clear that he wants a relaxation of the NZ based players rule. I wonder if NZR will put out a clarification statement like they did last time

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  He tried to talk around it but it's clear that he wants a relaxation of the NZ based players rule. I wonder if NZR will put out a clarification statement like they did last time

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                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                  He tried to talk around it but it's clear that he wants a relaxation of the NZ based players rule. I wonder if NZR will put out a clarification statement like they did last time

                  He'll be told to wind his fucking neck in, privately, I would imagine. he certainly wouldn't be saying that as saders coach. My opinion of him has just dropped, a lot.

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      He tried to talk around it but it's clear that he wants a relaxation of the NZ based players rule. I wonder if NZR will put out a clarification statement like they did last time

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                      @Duluth It was clear when Richie's name kept popping up and there was no mention at all of any incumbents filling in his position, other than Beaudy.

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                      • DuluthD Duluth

                        He tried to talk around it but it's clear that he wants a relaxation of the NZ based players rule. I wonder if NZR will put out a clarification statement like they did last time

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                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                        He tried to talk around it but it's clear that he wants a relaxation of the NZ based players rule. I wonder if NZR will put out a clarification statement like they did last time

                        Now that I've got the top job:

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                          shut up and coach surf jesus (why are we even hearing from you at the moment?)

                          it's a damning indictment of NZ's talent development pathways if there is precisely one guy that the coach thinks can play the position, and he isn't even in the country, and wasn't that great anyway.

                          (yes i've read a lot in to Duluth's post without even watching the press conference)

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                            I am a Razor supporter, But 100% not a supporter of bringing back players from overseas,no matter who they are,I am right behind the NZR on keeping the status quo.
                            Razor just leave it alone it’s starting to piss me off.

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                              @Duluth It was clear when Richie's name kept popping up and there was no mention at all of any incumbents filling in his position, other than Beaudy.

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                              @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

                              @Duluth It was clear when Richie's name kept popping up and there was no mention at all of any incumbents filling in his position, other than Beaudy.

                              Huh? It was the journos that kept bringing up Richie. Dmac was mentioned and it was also mentioned that others players have an opportunity in Super Rugby.

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                                booboo
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                                As requested ( @broughie ) thread title changed.

                                Make sure y'all stick with the deal.

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                                  The cheek of the man suggesting NZR keeps an open mind about something. We dug ourselves quite a hole with insular thinking, surely thinking and talking about alternatives is a good thing? It doesn’t mean we have to go down that path.

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                                    The cheek of the man suggesting NZR keeps an open mind about something. We dug ourselves quite a hole with insular thinking, surely thinking and talking about alternatives is a good thing? It doesn’t mean we have to go down that path.

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                                    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    The cheek of the man suggesting NZR keeps an open mind about something. We dug ourselves quite a hole with insular thinking, surely thinking and talking about alternatives is a good thing? It doesn’t mean we have to go down that path.

                                    cantab apologist

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                                    • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                      The cheek of the man suggesting NZR keeps an open mind about something. We dug ourselves quite a hole with insular thinking, surely thinking and talking about alternatives is a good thing? It doesn’t mean we have to go down that path.

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                                      @Crazy-Horse I'd be ok if they put out a random figure, like 75 caps or something that gave you leeway, but I guess the issue is how do you measure thier form against local players?

                                      I think if the gates were opened, NZ rugby would be on a steep decline and we'd end up like the Island sides battling with teams to release players and players opting not to go anyway due to the impact on thier earnings.

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                                        we have spent over 4 years been told by the media how this guy is the best coach ever and before he has even coached the team in a game he wants to change the rules that no other coach had the option off.

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          @Crazy-Horse I'd be ok if they put out a random figure, like 75 caps or something that gave you leeway, but I guess the issue is how do you measure thier form against local players?

                                          I think if the gates were opened, NZ rugby would be on a steep decline and we'd end up like the Island sides battling with teams to release players and players opting not to go anyway due to the impact on thier earnings.

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                                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @Crazy-Horse I'd be ok if they put out a random figure, like 75 caps or something that gave you leeway, but I guess the issue is how do you measure thier form against local players?

                                          I think if the gates were opened, NZ rugby would be on a steep decline and we'd end up like the Island sides battling with teams to release players and players opting not to go anyway due to the impact on thier earnings.

                                          They're probably the sort of things he is suggesting NZR considers. Even if he was completely evil and wanted the gates opened I can't see that happening.

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