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All Blacks 2024

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  • DuluthD Duluth

    He tried to talk around it but it's clear that he wants a relaxation of the NZ based players rule. I wonder if NZR will put out a clarification statement like they did last time

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    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

    He tried to talk around it but it's clear that he wants a relaxation of the NZ based players rule. I wonder if NZR will put out a clarification statement like they did last time

    Now that I've got the top job:

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      shut up and coach surf jesus (why are we even hearing from you at the moment?)

      it's a damning indictment of NZ's talent development pathways if there is precisely one guy that the coach thinks can play the position, and he isn't even in the country, and wasn't that great anyway.

      (yes i've read a lot in to Duluth's post without even watching the press conference)

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        I am a Razor supporter, But 100% not a supporter of bringing back players from overseas,no matter who they are,I am right behind the NZR on keeping the status quo.
        Razor just leave it alone it’s starting to piss me off.

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        • S SBW1

          @Duluth It was clear when Richie's name kept popping up and there was no mention at all of any incumbents filling in his position, other than Beaudy.

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          @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2024 - no interminable Foster arguments:

          @Duluth It was clear when Richie's name kept popping up and there was no mention at all of any incumbents filling in his position, other than Beaudy.

          Huh? It was the journos that kept bringing up Richie. Dmac was mentioned and it was also mentioned that others players have an opportunity in Super Rugby.

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            As requested ( @broughie ) thread title changed.

            Make sure y'all stick with the deal.

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              The cheek of the man suggesting NZR keeps an open mind about something. We dug ourselves quite a hole with insular thinking, surely thinking and talking about alternatives is a good thing? It doesn’t mean we have to go down that path.

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              • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                The cheek of the man suggesting NZR keeps an open mind about something. We dug ourselves quite a hole with insular thinking, surely thinking and talking about alternatives is a good thing? It doesn’t mean we have to go down that path.

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                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                The cheek of the man suggesting NZR keeps an open mind about something. We dug ourselves quite a hole with insular thinking, surely thinking and talking about alternatives is a good thing? It doesn’t mean we have to go down that path.

                cantab apologist

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                • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                  The cheek of the man suggesting NZR keeps an open mind about something. We dug ourselves quite a hole with insular thinking, surely thinking and talking about alternatives is a good thing? It doesn’t mean we have to go down that path.

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                  @Crazy-Horse I'd be ok if they put out a random figure, like 75 caps or something that gave you leeway, but I guess the issue is how do you measure thier form against local players?

                  I think if the gates were opened, NZ rugby would be on a steep decline and we'd end up like the Island sides battling with teams to release players and players opting not to go anyway due to the impact on thier earnings.

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                    we have spent over 4 years been told by the media how this guy is the best coach ever and before he has even coached the team in a game he wants to change the rules that no other coach had the option off.

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @Crazy-Horse I'd be ok if they put out a random figure, like 75 caps or something that gave you leeway, but I guess the issue is how do you measure thier form against local players?

                      I think if the gates were opened, NZ rugby would be on a steep decline and we'd end up like the Island sides battling with teams to release players and players opting not to go anyway due to the impact on thier earnings.

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                      @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Crazy-Horse I'd be ok if they put out a random figure, like 75 caps or something that gave you leeway, but I guess the issue is how do you measure thier form against local players?

                      I think if the gates were opened, NZ rugby would be on a steep decline and we'd end up like the Island sides battling with teams to release players and players opting not to go anyway due to the impact on thier earnings.

                      They're probably the sort of things he is suggesting NZR considers. Even if he was completely evil and wanted the gates opened I can't see that happening.

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                      • P ploughboy

                        we have spent over 4 years been told by the media how this guy is the best coach ever and before he has even coached the team in a game he wants to change the rules that no other coach had the option off.

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                        @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        we have spent over 4 years been told by the media how this guy is the best coach ever and before he has even coached the team in a game he wants to change the rules that no other coach had the option off.

                        Best coach ever? Wow. Who said that?

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                          Put down your torches and pitchforks. He might learn the bland "media-speak" you want and are used to in time. Personally, I think he needs to ruffle as many feathers as possible.

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            @Crazy-Horse I'd be ok if they put out a random figure, like 75 caps or something that gave you leeway, but I guess the issue is how do you measure thier form against local players?

                            I think if the gates were opened, NZ rugby would be on a steep decline and we'd end up like the Island sides battling with teams to release players and players opting not to go anyway due to the impact on thier earnings.

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                            • P ploughboy

                              im sure i read somewhere this camp was for the world cup aquad still in nz.

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                              @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              im sure i read somewhere this camp was for the world cup aquad still in nz.

                              Probably is, they are the only ones probably not training with super squads.

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                              • P Punch_up

                                @booboo yeah, could be only part of the squad to maintain some secrecy around possible new caps for the upcoming season
                                OR
                                Razor has invited current ABs only and he's giving them either the 👍 or the 👎 as he walks past them on the training field.

                                Example:
                                Razor: "I'm sorry, Finlay. Thank you for your service."

                                Finlay: "But coach..."

                                Razor: "Don't make this harder than it already is."

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                                @Punch_up said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @booboo yeah, could be only part of the squad to maintain some secrecy around possible new caps for the upcoming season
                                OR
                                Razor has invited current ABs only and he's giving them either the 👍 or the 👎 as he walks past them on the training field.

                                Example:
                                Razor: "I'm sorry, Finlay. Thank you for your service."

                                Finlay: "But coach..."

                                Razor: "Don't make this harder than it already is."

                                I would put money on Christie being in AB squad come test season. I can also see young Hotham etc being in there also.

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                                  Yeah you do get that niggling feeling that it's a bit strange the coaches "guy" that helped him win 5 titles just kinda randomly upped sticks just as he grew into the role and his coach got the top job.

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                                    I think he does offer a bit more of a different perspective on how the compulsory stand downs for ABs impact super rugby coaches and see he is keen for them to look at this to work better with thier draw, which is good.

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                                    • O Old Samurai Jack

                                      Put down your torches and pitchforks. He might learn the bland "media-speak" you want and are used to in time. Personally, I think he needs to ruffle as many feathers as possible.

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                                      @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      Put down your torches and pitchforks. He might learn the bland "media-speak" you want and are used to in time. Personally, I think he needs to ruffle as many feathers as possible.

                                      Ok so like Eddie Jones then? Sorry mate, I prefer he makes it about team and not him.
                                      I a supporter of Razor, but even I like coaches to not have to be front and centre.

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                                      • Dan54D Dan54

                                        @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        Put down your torches and pitchforks. He might learn the bland "media-speak" you want and are used to in time. Personally, I think he needs to ruffle as many feathers as possible.

                                        Ok so like Eddie Jones then? Sorry mate, I prefer he makes it about team and not him.
                                        I a supporter of Razor, but even I like coaches to not have to be front and centre.

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                                          Just curious on others peoples thoughts on this. If Richie Came back after the Japanese season finished in May and played club rugby for Linwood do you think he should be able to be selected for ABs.
                                          Me personally I think Razor is fishing for something or someone else.

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