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  • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

    I'm picking undefeated ABs for next 4 years and 2027 WC

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    I'm picking undefeated ABs for next 4 years and 2027 WC

    Post of the Year 2024, 2025, 2026 & 2027

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      @Chris He didn't have to say it. All this repeated eligibility talk from Razor was about Richie.

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      @Punch_up said in Crusaders 2024:

      @Chris He didn't have to say it. All this repeated eligibility talk from Razor was about Richie.

      From the Media yes Razor never mentioned Mounga, until they bought it up so can you read Razors mind.

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        With Scotland targeting our next potential 10 after DMAC and BB, he maybe wanting force the issue. We really cannot afford to lose him, LF left at a young age. That was not good, he had plenty of years as an All Black and Crusader in him.

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          Clarke looks in superb nick. Fingers crossed it translates...

          https://www.facebook.com/share/r/bd9rtBLS4FZCzH1T/

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          • BonesB Bones

            Clarke looks in superb nick. Fingers crossed it translates...

            https://www.facebook.com/share/r/bd9rtBLS4FZCzH1T/

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            @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            Clarke looks in superb nick. Fingers crossed it translates...

            https://www.facebook.com/share/r/bd9rtBLS4FZCzH1T/

            No matter how fit, he needs more of this!

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            • ChrisC Chris

              @Punch_up said in Crusaders 2024:

              @Chris He didn't have to say it. All this repeated eligibility talk from Razor was about Richie.

              From the Media yes Razor never mentioned Mounga, until they bought it up so can you read Razors mind.

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              @Chris said in Crusaders 2024:

              @Punch_up said in Crusaders 2024:

              @Chris He didn't have to say it. All this repeated eligibility talk from Razor was about Richie.

              From the Media yes Razor never mentioned Mounga, until they bought it up so can you read Razors mind.

              Is Kaino still lacing up?

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                Clarke's problems are mental more than physical - i.e. workrate - be interesting if O'Halloran can make any shifts for Clarke during Super.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @Chris said in Crusaders 2024:

                  @Punch_up said in Crusaders 2024:

                  @Chris He didn't have to say it. All this repeated eligibility talk from Razor was about Richie.

                  From the Media yes Razor never mentioned Mounga, until they bought it up so can you read Razors mind.

                  Is Kaino still lacing up?

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                  @Bones said in Crusaders 2024:

                  @Chris said in Crusaders 2024:

                  @Punch_up said in Crusaders 2024:

                  @Chris He didn't have to say it. All this repeated eligibility talk from Razor was about Richie.

                  From the Media yes Razor never mentioned Mounga, until they bought it up so can you read Razors mind.

                  Is Kaino still lacing up?

                  If only, at Toulouse skills coach and academy assistant coach.

                  Maybe it is Lock where they are looking to shore up.

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    Clarke's problems are mental more than physical - i.e. workrate - be interesting if O'Halloran can make any shifts for Clarke during Super.

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                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    Clarke's problems are mental more than physical - i.e. workrate - be interesting if O'Halloran can make any shifts for Clarke during Super.

                    His lack of balance might be both mental and physical

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                      Is Fergus Burke really next in line? He's so nondescript that I've been muddling him up with Brett Cameron in my head while reading this thread - until just now when I clicked they're different.

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                        He is a good few months away with his injury. He has played mostly at fullback, at the Saders he is seen as Richie's heir, time will tell.

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          Is Fergus Burke really next in line? He's so nondescript that I've been muddling him up with Brett Cameron in my head while reading this thread - until just now when I clicked they're different.

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                          @Nepia said in Crusaders 2024:

                          Is Fergus Burke really next in line? He's so nondescript that I've been muddling him up with Brett Cameron in my head while reading this thread - until just now when I clicked they're different.

                          I think that's fair though. Neither are stand up and look at me 10s (thus far).

                          I think Cameron came back from Japan better than he left, I'm interested to see what he can do in Super rugby this year.

                          Burke, jury still out but he is at the right team to get a very fucking good chance, so I like his chances with Razor - unless Havili ends up at 10.

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                          • ChrisC Chris

                            @Punch_up said in Crusaders 2024:

                            @Chris He didn't have to say it. All this repeated eligibility talk from Razor was about Richie.

                            From the Media yes Razor never mentioned Mounga, until they bought it up so can you read Razors mind.

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                            @Chris You don't have to be a mind reader to realise that all this hinting at changes in eligibility rules is about selecting Richie. He's the only player that Razor has publicly stated that he's disappointed is leaving. The rest of the overseas guys are way past their prime or only rated by one member of the coaching team.

                            It's actually a bit worrying, bc Mounga is just a good international 10 not a great one like say DC. Razor has 4 years to select and develop one or two new 10s. He should just get on with that.

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              Is Fergus Burke really next in line? He's so nondescript that I've been muddling him up with Brett Cameron in my head while reading this thread - until just now when I clicked they're different.

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                              @Nepia I get what you mean. It seems that for the last 4 years super rugby coaches have opted for rather ordinary options at 10 (when they have more exciting candidates or guys with greater potential in their squad or even wider training groups). It seems like no one wants to take a punt on anyone not 100% unspectacular.

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                              • P Punch_up

                                @Chris You don't have to be a mind reader to realise that all this hinting at changes in eligibility rules is about selecting Richie. He's the only player that Razor has publicly stated that he's disappointed is leaving. The rest of the overseas guys are way past their prime or only rated by one member of the coaching team.

                                It's actually a bit worrying, bc Mounga is just a good international 10 not a great one like say DC. Razor has 4 years to select and develop one or two new 10s. He should just get on with that.

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                                @Punch_up said in Crusaders 2024:

                                @Chris You don't have to be a mind reader to realise that all this hinting at changes in eligibility rules is about selecting Richie. He's the only player that Razor has publicly stated that he's disappointed is leaving. The rest of the overseas guys are way past their prime or only rated by one member of the coaching team.

                                It's actually a bit worrying, bc Mounga is just a good international 10 not a great one like say DC. Razor has 4 years to select and develop one or two new 10s. He should just get on with that.

                                I think it could be someone else,
                                Another poster a little while back who has a strong connection to Razor mentioned a lock might not be done for the next WC and he is pretty on to what he posts.

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                                • P Punch_up

                                  @Chris You don't have to be a mind reader to realise that all this hinting at changes in eligibility rules is about selecting Richie. He's the only player that Razor has publicly stated that he's disappointed is leaving. The rest of the overseas guys are way past their prime or only rated by one member of the coaching team.

                                  It's actually a bit worrying, bc Mounga is just a good international 10 not a great one like say DC. Razor has 4 years to select and develop one or two new 10s. He should just get on with that.

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                                  @Punch_up said in Crusaders 2024:

                                  @Chris You don't have to be a mind reader to realise that all this hinting at changes in eligibility rules is about selecting Richie. He's the only player that Razor has publicly stated that he's disappointed is leaving. The rest of the overseas guys are way past their prime or only rated by one member of the coaching team.

                                  It's actually a bit worrying, bc Mounga is just a good international 10 not a great one like say DC. Razor has 4 years to select and develop one or two new 10s. He should just get on with that.

                                  The only other player that could be in the group of ‘want haves’ is Leicester, and again, if he is the savior we are well fucked.

                                  Pick Dmac, Beauden, Perofeta, Cameron, or Burke or Ioane. A combination of three of them puts him well in contention with other international teams post a WC.

                                  As surf Jesus coach, he has plenty of talent.

                                  Maaaaaaybe he isn’t quite so surfy? Or so Jesusy? Or so?

                                  And maybe he knows it now that he knows that he doesn’t automatically have the best spine in the competition.

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                                    @Punch_up said in Crusaders 2024:

                                    @Chris You don't have to be a mind reader to realise that all this hinting at changes in eligibility rules is about selecting Richie. He's the only player that Razor has publicly stated that he's disappointed is leaving. The rest of the overseas guys are way past their prime or only rated by one member of the coaching team.

                                    It's actually a bit worrying, bc Mounga is just a good international 10 not a great one like say DC. Razor has 4 years to select and develop one or two new 10s. He should just get on with that.

                                    The only other player that could be in the group of ‘want haves’ is Leicester, and again, if he is the savior we are well fucked.

                                    Pick Dmac, Beauden, Perofeta, Cameron, or Burke or Ioane. A combination of three of them puts him well in contention with other international teams post a WC.

                                    As surf Jesus coach, he has plenty of talent.

                                    Maaaaaaybe he isn’t quite so surfy? Or so Jesusy? Or so?

                                    And maybe he knows it now that he knows that he doesn’t automatically have the best spine in the competition.

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                                    @gt12 Agree on most everything you wrote (maybe not the name Beauden).

                                    I'll add another question: What if Razor was planning to unveil The Cantablacks 2.0 as his first squad, but without Richie he's going down a more balanced route? Ok, I'm just joking here.

                                    Still, it might just be "wanting to work with players he knows" initially. Anyone know any non-crusaders in their mid-20s that Razor coached at u-19 level?

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                                      @gt12 Agree on most everything you wrote (maybe not the name Beauden).

                                      I'll add another question: What if Razor was planning to unveil The Cantablacks 2.0 as his first squad, but without Richie he's going down a more balanced route? Ok, I'm just joking here.

                                      Still, it might just be "wanting to work with players he knows" initially. Anyone know any non-crusaders in their mid-20s that Razor coached at u-19 level?

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                                      @Punch_up You can find the NZ U20 squads for 2015 and 2016 here:

                                      https://nextgenxv.com/list-of-new-zealand-under-20-rugby-players/

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                                      • ChrisC Chris

                                        @Punch_up said in Crusaders 2024:

                                        @Chris You don't have to be a mind reader to realise that all this hinting at changes in eligibility rules is about selecting Richie. He's the only player that Razor has publicly stated that he's disappointed is leaving. The rest of the overseas guys are way past their prime or only rated by one member of the coaching team.

                                        It's actually a bit worrying, bc Mounga is just a good international 10 not a great one like say DC. Razor has 4 years to select and develop one or two new 10s. He should just get on with that.

                                        I think it could be someone else,
                                        Another poster a little while back who has a strong connection to Razor mentioned a lock might not be done for the next WC and he is pretty on to what he posts.

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                                        @Chris I guess that could be true. I just think they should renew their squad a bit more instead of luring older players back.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          @Punch_up You can find the NZ U20 squads for 2015 and 2016 here:

                                          https://nextgenxv.com/list-of-new-zealand-under-20-rugby-players/

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                                          @Tim Thanks, that was quick.

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