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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    I'll give Razor a pass if he's conservative in his first couple of squads.

    It look Henry, Hansen and Smith the best part of a year to figure out their best team

    The first couple of squads in 2004 had the likes of Xavier Rush and Jono Gibbes etc - excellent Super servants but not answers at test level over the long haul.

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    @KiwiMurph Yeah the start of every World Cup cycle has a few random players in there.

    Even the last one had guys like Alex Hodgman, Peter Umaga-Jensen and Cullen Grace capped with guys like Du'Plessis Kirifi, Quentin Strange and Mitch Dunshea in the squad that season.

    Fair to say that those last 3 mentioned probably would have been capped if it wasn't a covid disrupted year.

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    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

      I want us to take a few fucking risks for once. At the selection table and on the field too

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      @mariner4life Hopefully that's exactly the brief that Razor's been given. They don't expect him to select the same squad as Foster did last year or last year's Crusaders, they want him to pick the very best players for All Black Rugby going forwards.

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        @pakman they are playing Munster in November. Possibly Georgia as well

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        @Kiwidom said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @pakman they are playing Munster in November. Possibly Georgia as well

        Real pity that XV couldn't play English dirt trackers:

        This side would grow from such an encounter:

        ENS(fullback)/Naholo(K)/Nareki/Rona(13)/Poihipi/Cameron/Ratima/Sititi/Jacobson/Lakai/McWhannell/Delany/Dyer/Thompson/Numia

        And would have been a great help in selecting TRC squad.

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            @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            Must say our stocks at 5 seem bare. Assume Vaa'i will be partnered with Scooter.

            Leading candidates for fourth man Darry/Lord (when not injured)/Delany/Strange.

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              @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              Must say our stocks at 5 seem bare. Assume Vaa'i will be partnered with Scooter.

              Leading candidates for fourth man Darry/Lord (when not injured)/Delany/Strange.

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                He also bemoaned flanker Ethan Blackadder suffering a thigh injury at training, likely ruling him out for three weeks.

                from Stuff.

                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350267567/super-rugby-pacific-frustrated-crusaders-coach-rob-penney-laments-record-eighth

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                  For all our wondering who Razor will pick here or there, according to him he is basically only picking loosies, Ryan will do tighties (I guess) and Leon outside backs, Holland and Hansen seems will do nidfield etc. Reckons he will only step in if there no concensus. Have heard and read him say similar a couple of times.

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                  • gt12G gt12

                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!

                    Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for the year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.

                    It’s been a long time since we’ve had a really good shitfight.

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                    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!

                    Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for the year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.

                    It’s been a long time since we’ve had a really good shitfight.

                    Since about November.

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                    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                      @mariner4life

                      Feet under the table first few Tests, then absolutely.

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                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @mariner4life

                      Feet under the table first few Tests, then absolutely.

                      Okay Fozzie.

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                        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!

                        Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for the year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.

                        It’s been a long time since we’ve had a really good shitfight.

                        Since about November.

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                        @booboo said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @gt12 And the side hasn't even been picked yet!

                        Imagine when guys like Ethan Christ, Cullen Grace, George Bell, David Havili etc are headlining the first AB squad for the year, it'll be like the fern version of the thriller in Manila.

                        It’s been a long time since we’ve had a really good shitfight.

                        Since about November.

                        The merits of Cane vs Papalii certainly made for some interesting reading

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                          New Zealand v England
                          Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin
                          Saturday, 6 July, 2024 Referee: Nika Amashukeli (GRU)
                          Assistant Referee 1: Nic Berry (RA)
                          Assistant Referee 2: Jordan Way (RA)
                          TMO: Eric Gauzins (FFR)

                          New Zealand v England
                          Eden Park, Auckland
                          Saturday, 13 July, 2024 Referee: Nic Berry (RA)
                          Assistant Referee 1: Damon Murphy (RA)
                          Assistant Referee 2: George Myers (RA)
                          TMO: Brett Cronan (RA)

                          New Zealand v Fiji
                          Snapdragon Stadium, San Diego, CA
                          Saturday, 20 July, 2024 Referee: Matthew Carley (RFU)
                          Assistant Referee 1: Damon Murphy (RA)
                          Assistant Referee 2: Luke Rogan (USAR)
                          TMO: Ian Tempest (RFU)

                          https://www.world.rugby/the-game/high-performance/officiating/925086

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                            New Zealand v England
                            Forsyth Barr Stadium, Dunedin
                            Saturday, 6 July, 2024 Referee: Nika Amashukeli (GRU)
                            Assistant Referee 1: Nic Berry (RA)
                            Assistant Referee 2: Jordan Way (RA)
                            TMO: Eric Gauzins (FFR)

                            New Zealand v England
                            Eden Park, Auckland
                            Saturday, 13 July, 2024 Referee: Nic Berry (RA)
                            Assistant Referee 1: Damon Murphy (RA)
                            Assistant Referee 2: George Myers (RA)
                            TMO: Brett Cronan (RA)

                            New Zealand v Fiji
                            Snapdragon Stadium, San Diego, CA
                            Saturday, 20 July, 2024 Referee: Matthew Carley (RFU)
                            Assistant Referee 1: Damon Murphy (RA)
                            Assistant Referee 2: Luke Rogan (USAR)
                            TMO: Ian Tempest (RFU)

                            https://www.world.rugby/the-game/high-performance/officiating/925086

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                            @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            Saturday, 6 July, 2024 Referee: Nika Amashukeli (GRU)

                            One of the stars from RWC2023. Put in really good refereeing performances.

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                              Good to see Taylor back considering Sami T seems off the pace and Asafo Aumua is OOA until July

                              https://www.planetrugby.com/news/crusaders-boosted-as-codie-taylor-and-tamaiti-williams-return-to-action

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                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/new-zealand-rugby-plots-to-bring-richie-mounga-home-early-from-japanese-sabbatical/I423W4NCG5BHHOMSLAWPHKTAZA/

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                                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/new-zealand-rugby-plots-to-bring-richie-mounga-home-early-from-japanese-sabbatical/I423W4NCG5BHHOMSLAWPHKTAZA/

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                                  @Tim The Crusaders will be delighted and it's strange that he threw the towel in on his international career immediately after the season where he was finally finding his feet properly at Test level.

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                                    I don't think it's strange to go overseas for 3 years on 2.2 million per, one of the highest wages in rugby. He still could be back eighteen months before RWC, if the desire is still there. The article is a bit of nothing, NZR in talks to see if they can get experienced ABs back shocker! There no inkling of a deal, just NZR want him back, rightly so. I'm sure the same happens in similar situations, with other players. Although thankfully it's rare

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                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/new-zealand-rugby-plots-to-bring-richie-mounga-home-early-from-japanese-sabbatical/I423W4NCG5BHHOMSLAWPHKTAZA/

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                                      @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/new-zealand-rugby-plots-to-bring-richie-mounga-home-early-from-japanese-sabbatical/I423W4NCG5BHHOMSLAWPHKTAZA/

                                      By the time Mo'unga's returned, Robertson will have had at least a full season - possibly 2 - to develop options at 10. Either DMac isn't rated and the other NZ-based 10's aren't seen as worth of development or this is more fake news.

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                                        @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/new-zealand-rugby-plots-to-bring-richie-mounga-home-early-from-japanese-sabbatical/I423W4NCG5BHHOMSLAWPHKTAZA/

                                        By the time Mo'unga's returned, Robertson will have had at least a full season - possibly 2 - to develop options at 10. Either DMac isn't rated and the other NZ-based 10's aren't seen as worth of development or this is more fake news.

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                                        @Victor-Meldrew can't see it being fake, it didn't say NZR are offering anything apart from 'please come back' and if bbbr was also 29 and had done the same deal, they'd be saying the same thing! NZR would love all abs qualified players playing in NZ.

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                                          @Victor-Meldrew can't see it being fake, it didn't say NZR are offering anything apart from 'please come back' and if bbbr was also 29 and had done the same deal, they'd be saying the same thing! NZR would love all abs qualified players playing in NZ.

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                                          @Machpants

                                          Yeah, didn't mean to say the article itself was fake and I'm sure NZR are actually interested in getting players back to NZ. I'd just hoped the new coaching set-up would have looked to the future and develop the talent available in NZ.

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