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    Not sure if NZ rugby will be so pleased with those fucks from the Herald starting this rumour a on nothing response to a baity question.

    https://rugbylad.ie/mounga-talks-leave-japan/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTAAAR3z5FUEXQpRCFvrnfB8u3HcJsmBZNT91Dm6N0t6dOpEifW0pVIvpipgWXw_aem_AWn3TOQqI1jzRpLzyUYesytaHF9r0otmdOdBi0mQ5nL_-Ki3kp9kZmL1oaQsRuRqTkayS_2uSYtOgj-cSaXcbemO

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      #1955

      Sam Cane won't be involved with the ABs, if he was ever in contention. Edit: at the end of the year. Finished with the Chiefs though.

      https://www.chiefs.co.nz/news-item/sam-cane-to-call-time-on-international-career-with-all-blacks

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        Good call. Cane should still be able to hit 100 caps this year.

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        • BonesB Bones

          @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          Robertson is being hung, drawn, and quartered before he's even picked the team.
          Tough crowd in here.

          Reminds me of the hype around Deans. Hopefully Robertson is a bit more successful.

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          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          Robertson is being hung, drawn, and quartered before he's even picked the team.
          Tough crowd in here.

          Reminds me of the hype around Deans. Hopefully Robertson is a bit more successful.

          Deans did really really well coaching a snake pit in Australia. Consdiering how the next few coaches went (literally) he was fine.

          Still shouldn't have gone though. One of our biggest rivals, right in our media cycle - just go takea NH job for more money and less stress 🙂

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          • F Frank

            @MN5

            Blackadder (despite having a great engine), is the Josh Lord of the South Island.

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            @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @MN5

            Blackadder (despite having a great engine), is the Josh Lord of the South Island.

            Pffft, even with the name Lord he hasn't recieved a fingernail of the hype of Ta$man Jesus. He's barely Naki Altar Boy in comparison. 😉

            But yes, foodbill wise he's up there, same with Sullivan.

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              Interesting that Stuff article on Cane mentions a 32 man AB squad. Presume nine front row, four locks, six back row, two halves, two first fives, four midfield and five in back three?

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              • P pakman

                Interesting that Stuff article on Cane mentions a 32 man AB squad. Presume nine front row, four locks, six back row, two halves, two first fives, four midfield and five in back three?

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                @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                Interesting that Stuff article on Cane mentions a 32 man AB squad. Presume nine front row, four locks, six back row, two halves, two first fives, four midfield and five in back three?

                Why not 20 front row?

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                  #1961

                  In my opinion I believe Sam Cane will be in the All Blacks this year.

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                  • P pakman

                    Interesting that Stuff article on Cane mentions a 32 man AB squad. Presume nine front row, four locks, six back row, two halves, two first fives, four midfield and five in back three?

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                    @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    Interesting that Stuff article on Cane mentions a 32 man AB squad. Presume nine front row, four locks, six back row, two halves, two first fives, four midfield and five in back three?

                    Three halfbacks is a lock in, so probably shave off a back row.

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                      @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      Interesting that Stuff article on Cane mentions a 32 man AB squad. Presume nine front row, four locks, six back row, two halves, two first fives, four midfield and five in back three?

                      Three halfbacks is a lock in, so probably shave off a back row.

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                      @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      Interesting that Stuff article on Cane mentions a 32 man AB squad. Presume nine front row, four locks, six back row, two halves, two first fives, four midfield and five in back three?

                      Three halfbacks is a lock in, so probably shave off a back row.

                      Given we're talking two domestic tests, I'm not convinced three halfbacks is a lock. I expect it will come down to who Razor wants to take a look at. Great shame there's no AB XV match in July.

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                      • P pakman

                        @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        Interesting that Stuff article on Cane mentions a 32 man AB squad. Presume nine front row, four locks, six back row, two halves, two first fives, four midfield and five in back three?

                        Three halfbacks is a lock in, so probably shave off a back row.

                        Given we're talking two domestic tests, I'm not convinced three halfbacks is a lock. I expect it will come down to who Razor wants to take a look at. Great shame there's no AB XV match in July.

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                        @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        Interesting that Stuff article on Cane mentions a 32 man AB squad. Presume nine front row, four locks, six back row, two halves, two first fives, four midfield and five in back three?

                        Three halfbacks is a lock in, so probably shave off a back row.

                        Given we're talking two domestic tests, I'm not convinced three halfbacks is a lock. I expect it will come down to who Razor wants to take a look at. Great shame there's no AB XV match in July.

                        In Super Rugby, teams travel with 27 man squads. This always includes a spare hooker, prop who can play on both sides and a halfback, because they're specialist positions. All Blacks even when in New Zealand are travelling, so they'll definitely cover three nines.

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                        • P pakman

                          @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          Interesting that Stuff article on Cane mentions a 32 man AB squad. Presume nine front row, four locks, six back row, two halves, two first fives, four midfield and five in back three?

                          Three halfbacks is a lock in, so probably shave off a back row.

                          Given we're talking two domestic tests, I'm not convinced three halfbacks is a lock. I expect it will come down to who Razor wants to take a look at. Great shame there's no AB XV match in July.

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                          @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          Great shame there's no AB XV match in July.

                          The Māori All Blacks are playing a Japan XV in two tests in June/July so that would give some eligible players a chance to impress.

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                          • M Mr Fish

                            I think the Six Nations sides all dropped their standards this year (which is normal following a World Cup and I'd generally expect the same of the NZ and Oz, except they've both got new coaches). Wales and Italy may be the exceptions but the only way for both was really up, and it's hard to measure their competence given the drop of the other sides.

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                            @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            I think the Six Nations sides all dropped their standards this year (which is normal following a World Cup and I'd generally expect the same of the NZ and Oz, except they've both got new coaches). Wales and Italy may be the exceptions but the only way for both was really up, and it's hard to measure their competence given the drop of the other sides.

                            If full sides are selected we'll soon know how shit the 6N teams are 😉

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                              Can't see the point of selecting a player who won't play Super Rugby in 2024 or 2025. You are effectively selecting a player from overseas. May as well get Mo'unga and Retallick in that case.

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                                @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                Interesting that Stuff article on Cane mentions a 32 man AB squad. Presume nine front row, four locks, six back row, two halves, two first fives, four midfield and five in back three?

                                Three halfbacks is a lock in, so probably shave off a back row.

                                Given we're talking two domestic tests, I'm not convinced three halfbacks is a lock. I expect it will come down to who Razor wants to take a look at. Great shame there's no AB XV match in July.

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                                @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                Interesting that Stuff article on Cane mentions a 32 man AB squad. Presume nine front row, four locks, six back row, two halves, two first fives, four midfield and five in back three?

                                Three halfbacks is a lock in, so probably shave off a back row.

                                Given we're talking two domestic tests, I'm not convinced three halfbacks is a lock. I expect it will come down to who Razor wants to take a look at. Great shame there's no AB XV match in July.

                                Not picking 3 halfbacks and 3 hookers in a 32 man squad is madness. Need backup in case someone goes down during warm ups at least

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                                • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                  @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  Interesting that Stuff article on Cane mentions a 32 man AB squad. Presume nine front row, four locks, six back row, two halves, two first fives, four midfield and five in back three?

                                  Three halfbacks is a lock in, so probably shave off a back row.

                                  Given we're talking two domestic tests, I'm not convinced three halfbacks is a lock. I expect it will come down to who Razor wants to take a look at. Great shame there's no AB XV match in July.

                                  Not picking 3 halfbacks and 3 hookers in a 32 man squad is madness. Need backup in case someone goes down during warm ups at least

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                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  Interesting that Stuff article on Cane mentions a 32 man AB squad. Presume nine front row, four locks, six back row, two halves, two first fives, four midfield and five in back three?

                                  Three halfbacks is a lock in, so probably shave off a back row.

                                  Given we're talking two domestic tests, I'm not convinced three halfbacks is a lock. I expect it will come down to who Razor wants to take a look at. Great shame there's no AB XV match in July.

                                  Not picking 3 halfbacks and 3 hookers in a 32 man squad is madness. Need backup in case someone goes down during warm ups at least

                                  I would think this year they would want to see as many HBs in the environment as possible too.

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    Can't see the point of selecting a player who won't play Super Rugby in 2024 or 2025. You are effectively selecting a player from overseas. May as well get Mo'unga and Retallick in that case.

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                                    @Tim said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    Can't see the point of selecting a player who won't play Super Rugby in 2024 or 2025. You are effectively selecting a player from overseas. May as well get Mo'unga and Retallick in that case.

                                    I'd select Cane. He's a 95 test AB and AB captain who was playing excellent rugby at the World Cup.

                                    Get a young loosie (I.e. Lakai or whoever) around the squad for the year to soak up knowledge from Cane then transition in 2025.

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      Interesting that Stuff article on Cane mentions a 32 man AB squad. Presume nine front row, four locks, six back row, two halves, two first fives, four midfield and five in back three?

                                      Why not 20 front row?

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                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      Interesting that Stuff article on Cane mentions a 32 man AB squad. Presume nine front row, four locks, six back row, two halves, two first fives, four midfield and five in back three?

                                      Why not 20 front row?

                                      Not planning to replicate the Tahs?

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        Interesting that Stuff article on Cane mentions a 32 man AB squad. Presume nine front row, four locks, six back row, two halves, two first fives, four midfield and five in back three?

                                        Three halfbacks is a lock in, so probably shave off a back row.

                                        Given we're talking two domestic tests, I'm not convinced three halfbacks is a lock. I expect it will come down to who Razor wants to take a look at. Great shame there's no AB XV match in July.

                                        Not picking 3 halfbacks and 3 hookers in a 32 man squad is madness. Need backup in case someone goes down during warm ups at least

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                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        Interesting that Stuff article on Cane mentions a 32 man AB squad. Presume nine front row, four locks, six back row, two halves, two first fives, four midfield and five in back three?

                                        Three halfbacks is a lock in, so probably shave off a back row.

                                        Given we're talking two domestic tests, I'm not convinced three halfbacks is a lock. I expect it will come down to who Razor wants to take a look at. Great shame there's no AB XV match in July.

                                        Not picking 3 halfbacks and 3 hookers in a 32 man squad is madness. Need backup in case someone goes down during warm ups at least

                                        DMac?

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                                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          Interesting that Stuff article on Cane mentions a 32 man AB squad. Presume nine front row, four locks, six back row, two halves, two first fives, four midfield and five in back three?

                                          Three halfbacks is a lock in, so probably shave off a back row.

                                          Given we're talking two domestic tests, I'm not convinced three halfbacks is a lock. I expect it will come down to who Razor wants to take a look at. Great shame there's no AB XV match in July.

                                          Not picking 3 halfbacks and 3 hookers in a 32 man squad is madness. Need backup in case someone goes down during warm ups at least

                                          DMac?

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                                          @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @frugby said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          Interesting that Stuff article on Cane mentions a 32 man AB squad. Presume nine front row, four locks, six back row, two halves, two first fives, four midfield and five in back three?

                                          Three halfbacks is a lock in, so probably shave off a back row.

                                          Given we're talking two domestic tests, I'm not convinced three halfbacks is a lock. I expect it will come down to who Razor wants to take a look at. Great shame there's no AB XV match in July.

                                          Not picking 3 halfbacks and 3 hookers in a 32 man squad is madness. Need backup in case someone goes down during warm ups at least

                                          DMac?

                                          So a halfback goes down in warm-up and our starting 10 is our back up 9 vs England?

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