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All Blacks 2024

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  • Landers92L Landers92

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    It's worth noting there's under 2 weeks from Razor's first squad naming until the first test

    That may hint towards a more conservative squad selection initially.

    It could also be an excuse to pick players he's familiar with

    It looks like Grace, Drummond, Havili etc will be well rested, so there's that as well.

    If Grace somehow manages to sneak into this squad he has something on Razor.

    Appreciate the laugh with the Drummond part.

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    @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    It's worth noting there's under 2 weeks from Razor's first squad naming until the first test

    That may hint towards a more conservative squad selection initially.

    It could also be an excuse to pick players he's familiar with

    It looks like Grace, Drummond, Havili etc will be well rested, so there's that as well.

    If Grace somehow manages to sneak into this squad he has something on Razor.

    Appreciate the laugh with the Drummond part.

    I forgot Strange.

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    • G george33

      @Chris I have a feeling that Akira will be in squad

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      @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @Chris I have a feeling that Akira will be in squad

      Can't see it mate

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      • ChrisC Chris

        @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @Chris I have a feeling that Akira will be in squad

        Can't see it mate

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        @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @Chris I have a feeling that Akira will be in squad

        Can't see it mate

        Razor coached Akira at U20s so he's known him for a long time.

        It's now or never for Akira - he's certainly giving the selectors something to think about with his form - Stern Vern has him humming and a bit of a blueprint for how Akira can be effective at test level. There's not an abundance of 6s around.

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          https://twitter.com/AlexChapmanNZ/status/1790146992112615553

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @Chris I have a feeling that Akira will be in squad

            Can't see it mate

            Razor coached Akira at U20s so he's known him for a long time.

            It's now or never for Akira - he's certainly giving the selectors something to think about with his form - Stern Vern has him humming and a bit of a blueprint for how Akira can be effective at test level. There's not an abundance of 6s around.

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            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @Chris I have a feeling that Akira will be in squad

            Can't see it mate

            Razor coached Akira at U20s so he's known him for a long time.

            It's now or never for Akira - he's certainly giving the selectors something to think about with his form - Stern Vern has him humming and a bit of a blueprint for how Akira can be effective at test level. There's not an abundance of 6s around.

            We will see I don't expect him to be there, Jacobsen probably has more chance as he is seen by some to have a high work rate.
            Razor has stated he likes Loosies that get off the ground quickly and keep working and are always in the game and don't drift.That is why he mentioned Lilo-Willie although I don't expect he will be in the squad.

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              I am a little surprised at a squad of only 32 TBH

              This is a bloke coming in and trying to put a new system in place. Surely he needs a few more to start to understand what he is trying to do early on? Even if they don't play, there is a fair amount of education required.
              It's not like they have anything else to do.

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                I am a little surprised at a squad of only 32 TBH

                This is a bloke coming in and trying to put a new system in place. Surely he needs a few more to start to understand what he is trying to do early on? Even if they don't play, there is a fair amount of education required.
                It's not like they have anything else to do.

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                @mariner4life In the previous set ups they often had other players not technically in the squad but named as training cover. Could be the case again.

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                  Re: selection
                  I honestly don't give a shit who he picks as long as it is for a reason. If it's because he knows them, or they are a sympathetic voice in the locker room (emotional support journeymen) then that is fucked.

                  But if it is because he has clarity around exactly how he wants to play, and is picking the best pieces to carry that out, then i don't give a shit what names are read out.

                  I know i am asking far too much from rugby, but it would be great to hear him explain it too.

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                  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                    https://twitter.com/AlexChapmanNZ/status/1790146992112615553

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                    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    https://twitter.com/AlexChapmanNZ/status/1790146992112615553

                    i would be happy for him too just name a leadership group from his squad and then name a captain after he names his 23, just get the team firing first

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                    • P ploughboy

                      would it be fair to say AS is only l;oose forward guaranteed get in squad?

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                      @ploughboy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      would it be fair to say AS is only l;oose forward guaranteed get in squad?

                      And Papalii

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                        If we only select 6 loosies, who are then? Papali'i, Jacobsen, Sotutu, Blackadder, Finau and Savea? With Lakai selected as a so-called training member?

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                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                          If we only select 6 loosies, who are then? Papali'i, Jacobsen, Sotutu, Blackadder, Finau and Savea? With Lakai selected as a so-called training member?

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                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          If we only select 6 loosies, who are then? Papali'i, Jacobsen, Sotutu, Blackadder, Finau and Savea? With Lakai selected as a so-called training member?

                          That looks pretty close to me.

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                            Who would be the next loosie if/when Blackadder is out injured?

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                              i don't think either Jacobson or Blackadder are good enough for top level test rugby.

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                                Who would be the next loosie if/when Blackadder is out injured?

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                                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                Who would be the next loosie if/when Blackadder is out injured?

                                Lakai as I think Blackadder will be used to cover 7 until Cane is back v Argentina.

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                                  Apparently Cam Roigard is making really good progress with his recovery and could be back sooner than expected.

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    i don't think either Jacobson or Blackadder are good enough for top level test rugby.

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                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    i don't think either Jacobson or Blackadder are good enough for top level test rugby.

                                    Wouldn't quite go that far, but they aren't performing like the others on that list

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      Who would be the next loosie if/when Blackadder is out injured?

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                                      @KiwiMurph don't you mean, let's just not pick Blackadder because he'll get injured anyway and just select Lakai instead...

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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        Apparently Cam Roigard is making really good progress with his recovery and could be back sooner than expected.

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                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        Apparently Cam Roigard is making really good progress with his recovery and could be back sooner than expected.

                                        Do go on............details

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          @KiwiMurph don't you mean, let's just not pick Blackadder because he'll get injured anyway and just select Lakai instead...

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                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @KiwiMurph don't you mean, let's just not pick Blackadder because he'll get injured anyway and just select Lakai instead...

                                          My question was more if they wanted to bring Lakai only slowly and keep him as a training member rather than a full squad member even if injury struck the main squad - who would replace Blackadder.

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