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All Blacks 2024

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  • KiwiwombleK Offline
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    #2172

    i know im in the minority...but i wouldn't be too critical of a couple of losses this season if i could just see that they were trying to achieve something new, teething problems to implementing new gameplans or blooding new players

    winning this year with guys that wont be around in 2027...or even worse trying the same players or techniques we've tried before and loosing....will fuck me off

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    • Landers92L Landers92

      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      Sorry but did you just saw Hopefully McWhannell?! Plenty better talent than him around.

      Name two eligible locks consistently playing better than he has been this SR.

      Sure thing, here’s a few imo. His team mate Darry is better(granted injury concerns for him I know), Tupou Vaa’i, Caleb Delany being used as a lock at the Canes and has been brilliant. I’d even go as far as saying Dunshea since his return has played through the roof… shit id even say Hannah down here in Christchurch has a bright future and would consider him over McWhannell.

      Respect your opinion mate, just in my opinion we could do better. Let’s just hope Quinton Strange isn’t picked.

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      @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      Sorry but did you just saw Hopefully McWhannell?! Plenty better talent than him around.

      Name two eligible locks consistently playing better than he has been this SR.

      Sure thing, here’s a few imo. His team mate Darry is better(granted injury concerns for him I know), Tupou Vaa’i, Caleb Delany being used as a lock at the Canes and has been brilliant. I’d even go as far as saying Dunshea since his return has played through the roof… shit id even say Hannah down here in Christchurch has a bright future and would consider him over McWhannell.

      Respect your opinion mate, just in my opinion we could do better. Let’s just hope Quinton Strange isn’t picked.

      Good post. I've gone back and had a more detailed look. Darry I agree probably has a higher ceiling, but he's still not doing enough, especially at the lineout for the Blues, nor in attack with the ball. Vaa'i surprises me because he's second only to Tuipulotu in carrying. He's also busy in defence.

      McWhannell is a busy player in all aspects, but his defence may be a relative weakness.

      I'd caution against Dunshea's play at this stage since he's only played donkey teams; Force, Moana Pacifica and Crusaders.

      Delany is a good candidate though. Be interesting to see their relative form into the finals.

      If Strange is selected, there should be some searching questions directed at the coaches.

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      • Crazy HorseC Offline
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        #2174

        Some quite bizarre speculation and teeth knashing about Razor's selections going on in this thread considering he hasn't even selected a squad yet. It's almost as though wives and girlfriends have hacked people's accounts.

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        • DuluthD Offline
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          #2175

          'Stop talking about things I don't like' :crying_face:

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          • DuluthD Duluth

            'Stop talking about things I don't like' :crying_face:

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            Crazy Horse
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            #2176

            @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            'Stop talking about things I don't like' :crying_face:

            Serious question, is the rest of NZ and other sections of social media expressing the same sentiments? I am not on social media so I wouldn't know.

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            • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

              @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              'Stop talking about things I don't like' :crying_face:

              Serious question, is the rest of NZ and other sections of social media expressing the same sentiments? I am not on social media so I wouldn't know.

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              #2177

              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              'Stop talking about things I don't like' :crying_face:

              Serious question, is the rest of NZ and other sections of social media expressing the same sentiments? I am not on social media so I wouldn't know.

              are you actually asking if the general population has the same level of interest and speculation as a dedicated forum to NZ rugby....dude....if you're here you are well and truely down the rabbit hole

              and as for the fact razor hasn't actually dropped a squad yet...george33 had said at least some things are locked in...and thats ll i need

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              • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                'Stop talking about things I don't like' :crying_face:

                Serious question, is the rest of NZ and other sections of social media expressing the same sentiments? I am not on social media so I wouldn't know.

                are you actually asking if the general population has the same level of interest and speculation as a dedicated forum to NZ rugby....dude....if you're here you are well and truely down the rabbit hole

                and as for the fact razor hasn't actually dropped a squad yet...george33 had said at least some things are locked in...and thats ll i need

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                Crazy Horse
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                @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                'Stop talking about things I don't like' :crying_face:

                Serious question, is the rest of NZ and other sections of social media expressing the same sentiments? I am not on social media so I wouldn't know.

                are you actually asking if the general population has the same level of interest and speculation as a dedicated forum to NZ rugby....dude....if you're here you are well and truely down the rabbit hole

                and as for the fact razor hasn't actually dropped a squad yet...george33 had said at least some things are locked in...and thats ll i need

                Like others I live in a bubble where I am the only one that gives a shit about rugby. With not being on social media to get another gauge on what people are thinking I was curious. I find it interesting that's all.

                Some of the speculation reminds me of the time I was in trouble because my girlfriend at the time dreamt I had done something wrong.

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                • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                  Some quite bizarre speculation and teeth knashing about Razor's selections going on in this thread considering he hasn't even selected a squad yet. It's almost as though wives and girlfriends have hacked people's accounts.

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                  #2179

                  @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  Some quite bizarre speculation and teeth knashing about Razor's selections going on in this thread considering he hasn't even selected a squad yet. It's almost as though wives and girlfriends have hacked people's accounts.

                  Given the Cantablacks are fresh in my mind (despite being 20 years gone), and some of the Foster Favourite selections of the last few years, there's nervousness (from me at least) of picking people he knows. This is fuelled by media speculation of getting Mo'unga and Whitelock back for the ABs, and talking of picking overseas players. Not helped by inputs from folks who may have inside knowledge speculating online here.

                  Thing is, I expect him to be a gun selector. He did that consistently for Crusaders - has an eye for talent. He can be really brave, and I expect he'll surprise us all with his squad - in a good way.

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                  • nzzpN nzzp

                    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    Some quite bizarre speculation and teeth knashing about Razor's selections going on in this thread considering he hasn't even selected a squad yet. It's almost as though wives and girlfriends have hacked people's accounts.

                    Given the Cantablacks are fresh in my mind (despite being 20 years gone), and some of the Foster Favourite selections of the last few years, there's nervousness (from me at least) of picking people he knows. This is fuelled by media speculation of getting Mo'unga and Whitelock back for the ABs, and talking of picking overseas players. Not helped by inputs from folks who may have inside knowledge speculating online here.

                    Thing is, I expect him to be a gun selector. He did that consistently for Crusaders - has an eye for talent. He can be really brave, and I expect he'll surprise us all with his squad - in a good way.

                    Crazy HorseC Offline
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                    wrote on last edited by Crazy Horse
                    #2180

                    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    Some quite bizarre speculation and teeth knashing about Razor's selections going on in this thread considering he hasn't even selected a squad yet. It's almost as though wives and girlfriends have hacked people's accounts.

                    Given the Cantablacks are fresh in my mind (despite being 20 years gone), and some of the Foster Favourite selections of the last few years, there's nervousness (from me at least) of picking people he knows. This is fuelled by media speculation of getting Mo'unga and Whitelock back for the ABs, and talking of picking overseas players. Not helped by inputs from folks who may have inside knowledge speculating online here.

                    Thing is, I expect him to be a gun selector. He did that consistently for Crusaders - has an eye for talent. He can be really brave, and I expect he'll surprise us all with his squad - in a good way.

                    I get the trepidation and I hope he doesn't select his Canterbury mates. I suspect (and hope) he is smarter than that.

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                    • antipodeanA antipodean

                      @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      Sorry but did you just saw Hopefully McWhannell?! Plenty better talent than him around.

                      Name two eligible locks consistently playing better than he has been this SR.

                      Sure thing, here’s a few imo. His team mate Darry is better(granted injury concerns for him I know), Tupou Vaa’i, Caleb Delany being used as a lock at the Canes and has been brilliant. I’d even go as far as saying Dunshea since his return has played through the roof… shit id even say Hannah down here in Christchurch has a bright future and would consider him over McWhannell.

                      Respect your opinion mate, just in my opinion we could do better. Let’s just hope Quinton Strange isn’t picked.

                      Good post. I've gone back and had a more detailed look. Darry I agree probably has a higher ceiling, but he's still not doing enough, especially at the lineout for the Blues, nor in attack with the ball. Vaa'i surprises me because he's second only to Tuipulotu in carrying. He's also busy in defence.

                      McWhannell is a busy player in all aspects, but his defence may be a relative weakness.

                      I'd caution against Dunshea's play at this stage since he's only played donkey teams; Force, Moana Pacifica and Crusaders.

                      Delany is a good candidate though. Be interesting to see their relative form into the finals.

                      If Strange is selected, there should be some searching questions directed at the coaches.

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                      #2181

                      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      Sorry but did you just saw Hopefully McWhannell?! Plenty better talent than him around.

                      Name two eligible locks consistently playing better than he has been this SR.

                      Sure thing, here’s a few imo. His team mate Darry is better(granted injury concerns for him I know), Tupou Vaa’i, Caleb Delany being used as a lock at the Canes and has been brilliant. I’d even go as far as saying Dunshea since his return has played through the roof… shit id even say Hannah down here in Christchurch has a bright future and would consider him over McWhannell.

                      Respect your opinion mate, just in my opinion we could do better. Let’s just hope Quinton Strange isn’t picked.

                      Good post. I've gone back and had a more detailed look. Darry I agree probably has a higher ceiling, but he's still not doing enough, especially at the lineout for the Blues, nor in attack with the ball. Vaa'i surprises me because he's second only to Tuipulotu in carrying. He's also busy in defence.

                      McWhannell is a busy player in all aspects, but his defence may be a relative weakness.

                      I'd caution against Dunshea's play at this stage since he's only played donkey teams; Force, Moana Pacifica and Crusaders.

                      Delany is a good candidate though. Be interesting to see their relative form into the finals.

                      If Strange is selected, there should be some searching questions directed at the coaches.

                      fucking beautiful knife work

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                      • DuluthD Offline
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                        #2182

                        Barrett's back injury keeps lingering.

                        Everyone seems to assume captaincy is between Savea and Barrett. I wonder if Taylor is being seriously considered

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          Barrett's back injury keeps lingering.

                          Everyone seems to assume captaincy is between Savea and Barrett. I wonder if Taylor is being seriously considered

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                          #2183

                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          Barrett's back injury keeps lingering.

                          Everyone seems to assume captaincy is between Savea and Barrett. I wonder if Taylor is being seriously considered

                          Yeah don’t discount Taylor from the captains mix.

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                            #2184

                            If those are our options I hope Barrett's back heals quickly.

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                              It would be better to have a captain that won't be replaced during the game. While the likes of Kolisi often was it isn't ideal.

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                                I reckon all the Mounga talk is a crafty little strategy to open the door to Surf Jesus' often repeated plea to be able to pick overseas based players' full stop.

                                He's been whining about it almost since the moment he got the gig.

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                                • KiwiwombleK Offline
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                                  Kiwiwomble
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                                  #2187

                                  are we happy with nailing Taylor on to start, every week? i dont want a captain that isn;t a clear favourite for his position

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                                  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

                                    are we happy with nailing Taylor on to start, every week? i dont want a captain that isn;t a clear favourite for his position

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                                    @Kiwiwomble

                                    He's miles in front of the competition at the moment

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                                    • DuluthD Duluth

                                      @Kiwiwomble

                                      He's miles in front of the competition at the moment

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                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      @Kiwiwomble

                                      He's miles in front of the competition at the moment

                                      A bit sad when he has only played one game.

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                                      • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @Kiwiwomble

                                        He's miles in front of the competition at the moment

                                        A bit sad when he has only played one game.

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                                        #2190

                                        @Crazy-Horse

                                        Samisoni has dropped off

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          @Crazy-Horse

                                          Samisoni has dropped off

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                                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @Crazy-Horse

                                          Samisoni has dropped off

                                          Yeah I have been reading that on here but in what way? Not disagreeing - I haven't seen many Chiefs games so haven't seen it for myself. Is he missing his lineout targets? Falling off tackles? Not making yards ball in hand? Missing rucks? Noone has really elaborated.

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