All Blacks 2024
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Some quite bizarre speculation and teeth knashing about Razor's selections going on in this thread considering he hasn't even selected a squad yet. It's almost as though wives and girlfriends have hacked people's accounts.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Some quite bizarre speculation and teeth knashing about Razor's selections going on in this thread considering he hasn't even selected a squad yet. It's almost as though wives and girlfriends have hacked people's accounts.
Given the Cantablacks are fresh in my mind (despite being 20 years gone), and some of the Foster Favourite selections of the last few years, there's nervousness (from me at least) of picking people he knows. This is fuelled by media speculation of getting Mo'unga and Whitelock back for the ABs, and talking of picking overseas players. Not helped by inputs from folks who may have inside knowledge speculating online here.
Thing is, I expect him to be a gun selector. He did that consistently for Crusaders - has an eye for talent. He can be really brave, and I expect he'll surprise us all with his squad - in a good way.
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Some quite bizarre speculation and teeth knashing about Razor's selections going on in this thread considering he hasn't even selected a squad yet. It's almost as though wives and girlfriends have hacked people's accounts.
Given the Cantablacks are fresh in my mind (despite being 20 years gone), and some of the Foster Favourite selections of the last few years, there's nervousness (from me at least) of picking people he knows. This is fuelled by media speculation of getting Mo'unga and Whitelock back for the ABs, and talking of picking overseas players. Not helped by inputs from folks who may have inside knowledge speculating online here.
Thing is, I expect him to be a gun selector. He did that consistently for Crusaders - has an eye for talent. He can be really brave, and I expect he'll surprise us all with his squad - in a good way.
@nzzp said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Some quite bizarre speculation and teeth knashing about Razor's selections going on in this thread considering he hasn't even selected a squad yet. It's almost as though wives and girlfriends have hacked people's accounts.
Given the Cantablacks are fresh in my mind (despite being 20 years gone), and some of the Foster Favourite selections of the last few years, there's nervousness (from me at least) of picking people he knows. This is fuelled by media speculation of getting Mo'unga and Whitelock back for the ABs, and talking of picking overseas players. Not helped by inputs from folks who may have inside knowledge speculating online here.
Thing is, I expect him to be a gun selector. He did that consistently for Crusaders - has an eye for talent. He can be really brave, and I expect he'll surprise us all with his squad - in a good way.
I get the trepidation and I hope he doesn't select his Canterbury mates. I suspect (and hope) he is smarter than that.
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@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Sorry but did you just saw Hopefully McWhannell?! Plenty better talent than him around.
Name two eligible locks consistently playing better than he has been this SR.
Sure thing, here’s a few imo. His team mate Darry is better(granted injury concerns for him I know), Tupou Vaa’i, Caleb Delany being used as a lock at the Canes and has been brilliant. I’d even go as far as saying Dunshea since his return has played through the roof… shit id even say Hannah down here in Christchurch has a bright future and would consider him over McWhannell.
Respect your opinion mate, just in my opinion we could do better. Let’s just hope Quinton Strange isn’t picked.
Good post. I've gone back and had a more detailed look. Darry I agree probably has a higher ceiling, but he's still not doing enough, especially at the lineout for the Blues, nor in attack with the ball. Vaa'i surprises me because he's second only to Tuipulotu in carrying. He's also busy in defence.
McWhannell is a busy player in all aspects, but his defence may be a relative weakness.
I'd caution against Dunshea's play at this stage since he's only played donkey teams; Force, Moana Pacifica and Crusaders.
Delany is a good candidate though. Be interesting to see their relative form into the finals.
If Strange is selected, there should be some searching questions directed at the coaches.
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Sorry but did you just saw Hopefully McWhannell?! Plenty better talent than him around.
Name two eligible locks consistently playing better than he has been this SR.
Sure thing, here’s a few imo. His team mate Darry is better(granted injury concerns for him I know), Tupou Vaa’i, Caleb Delany being used as a lock at the Canes and has been brilliant. I’d even go as far as saying Dunshea since his return has played through the roof… shit id even say Hannah down here in Christchurch has a bright future and would consider him over McWhannell.
Respect your opinion mate, just in my opinion we could do better. Let’s just hope Quinton Strange isn’t picked.
Good post. I've gone back and had a more detailed look. Darry I agree probably has a higher ceiling, but he's still not doing enough, especially at the lineout for the Blues, nor in attack with the ball. Vaa'i surprises me because he's second only to Tuipulotu in carrying. He's also busy in defence.
McWhannell is a busy player in all aspects, but his defence may be a relative weakness.
I'd caution against Dunshea's play at this stage since he's only played donkey teams; Force, Moana Pacifica and Crusaders.
Delany is a good candidate though. Be interesting to see their relative form into the finals.
If Strange is selected, there should be some searching questions directed at the coaches.
fucking beautiful knife work
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Barrett's back injury keeps lingering.
Everyone seems to assume captaincy is between Savea and Barrett. I wonder if Taylor is being seriously considered
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Barrett's back injury keeps lingering.
Everyone seems to assume captaincy is between Savea and Barrett. I wonder if Taylor is being seriously considered
Yeah don’t discount Taylor from the captains mix.
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are we happy with nailing Taylor on to start, every week? i dont want a captain that isn;t a clear favourite for his position
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are we happy with nailing Taylor on to start, every week? i dont want a captain that isn;t a clear favourite for his position
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He's miles in front of the competition at the moment
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
He's miles in front of the competition at the moment
A bit sad when he has only played one game.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
He's miles in front of the competition at the moment
A bit sad when he has only played one game.
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Samisoni has dropped off
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Samisoni has dropped off
Yeah I have been reading that on here but in what way? Not disagreeing - I haven't seen many Chiefs games so haven't seen it for myself. Is he missing his lineout targets? Falling off tackles? Not making yards ball in hand? Missing rucks? Noone has really elaborated.
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DMac was in great form last year in Super rugby then hardly used in the ABs. I would have had him as starting 10 last year
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
We have been saddled by stuck in the mud selections and misplaced loyalty for far too long. Last 4 years has been painful
Yep, and by quoting percentage wins (Ritchie's win record) or 2020~ form in black (Akira, Sotutu), I am not sure it is so relevant moving forward. Having said that, I don't think selections were the previous coaching group's biggest problem. They always seemed to reward Super rugby form (Lack of "deep analysis"?)
@Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I don't think selections were the previous coaching group's biggest problem
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As regards the AB forwards this year just chuck in the Hurricanes forwards and add Scott Barrett. That's it.
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@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Samisoni has dropped off
Yeah I have been reading that on here but in what way? Not disagreeing - I haven't seen many Chiefs games so haven't seen it for myself. Is he missing his lineout targets? Falling off tackles? Not making yards ball in hand? Missing rucks? Noone has really elaborated.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Samisoni has dropped off
Yeah I have been reading that on here but in what way? Not disagreeing - I haven't seen many Chiefs games so haven't seen it for myself. Is he missing his lineout targets? Falling off tackles? Not making yards ball in hand? Missing rucks? Noone has really elaborated.
A lot of that. Lineouts shakey, doesn't seem as busy and isn't breaking tackles or making yards like previous seasons. Just seems to be lacking dynamism.
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The thing that strikes me as a bit off about Razor "trying to entice players back"....these are guys that left after they knew he'd be coach. Especially in the case of Richie, if true, it smells fishy. Razor saying don't worry mate just go get your money and we'll sort out more money to get you back?
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The thing that strikes me as a bit off about Razor "trying to entice players back"....these are guys that left after they knew he'd be coach. Especially in the case of Richie, if true, it smells fishy. Razor saying don't worry mate just go get your money and we'll sort out more money to get you back?
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
The thing that strikes me as a bit off about Razor "trying to entice players back"....these are guys that left after they knew he'd be coach. Especially in the case of Richie, if true, it smells fishy. Razor saying don't worry mate just go get your money and we'll sort out more money to get you back?
I thought it was weird too but it's a bit of a gamble don't you think? Especially if RM really wanted to continue being an AB. I was actually starting to think things may not have been as rosy at the Saders as we were led to think. Not based on anything other than the Saders missing out on a few young players that I'd have thought would have jumped at the chance to play under Razor. And before you ask, I can't remember who they were.
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Yeah Richie taking off when he's basically being handed the keys, just as "his guy" is becoming coach was a tad bizarre.
On top of that, if Razor thought these guys were that important, why didn't he fight hammer and tongs last year? If he really is pursuing them then it must be panic after seeing SR....
