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  • DuluthD Duluth

    Barrett's back injury keeps lingering.

    Everyone seems to assume captaincy is between Savea and Barrett. I wonder if Taylor is being seriously considered

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    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Barrett's back injury keeps lingering.

    Everyone seems to assume captaincy is between Savea and Barrett. I wonder if Taylor is being seriously considered

    Yeah don’t discount Taylor from the captains mix.

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      If those are our options I hope Barrett's back heals quickly.

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        It would be better to have a captain that won't be replaced during the game. While the likes of Kolisi often was it isn't ideal.

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          I reckon all the Mounga talk is a crafty little strategy to open the door to Surf Jesus' often repeated plea to be able to pick overseas based players' full stop.

          He's been whining about it almost since the moment he got the gig.

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            are we happy with nailing Taylor on to start, every week? i dont want a captain that isn;t a clear favourite for his position

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            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

              are we happy with nailing Taylor on to start, every week? i dont want a captain that isn;t a clear favourite for his position

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              @Kiwiwomble

              He's miles in front of the competition at the moment

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                @Kiwiwomble

                He's miles in front of the competition at the moment

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                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @Kiwiwomble

                He's miles in front of the competition at the moment

                A bit sad when he has only played one game.

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                • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @Kiwiwomble

                  He's miles in front of the competition at the moment

                  A bit sad when he has only played one game.

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                  @Crazy-Horse

                  Samisoni has dropped off

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                  • DuluthD Duluth

                    @Crazy-Horse

                    Samisoni has dropped off

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                    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @Crazy-Horse

                    Samisoni has dropped off

                    Yeah I have been reading that on here but in what way? Not disagreeing - I haven't seen many Chiefs games so haven't seen it for myself. Is he missing his lineout targets? Falling off tackles? Not making yards ball in hand? Missing rucks? Noone has really elaborated.

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                      DMac was in great form last year in Super rugby then hardly used in the ABs. I would have had him as starting 10 last year

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                      • O Old Samurai Jack

                        @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        We have been saddled by stuck in the mud selections and misplaced loyalty for far too long. Last 4 years has been painful

                        Yep, and by quoting percentage wins (Ritchie's win record) or 2020~ form in black (Akira, Sotutu), I am not sure it is so relevant moving forward. Having said that, I don't think selections were the previous coaching group's biggest problem. They always seemed to reward Super rugby form (Lack of "deep analysis"?)

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                        @Old-Samurai-Jack said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        I don't think selections were the previous coaching group's biggest problem

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                          As regards the AB forwards this year just chuck in the Hurricanes forwards and add Scott Barrett. That's it.

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                          • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                            @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Crazy-Horse

                            Samisoni has dropped off

                            Yeah I have been reading that on here but in what way? Not disagreeing - I haven't seen many Chiefs games so haven't seen it for myself. Is he missing his lineout targets? Falling off tackles? Not making yards ball in hand? Missing rucks? Noone has really elaborated.

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                            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Crazy-Horse

                            Samisoni has dropped off

                            Yeah I have been reading that on here but in what way? Not disagreeing - I haven't seen many Chiefs games so haven't seen it for myself. Is he missing his lineout targets? Falling off tackles? Not making yards ball in hand? Missing rucks? Noone has really elaborated.

                            A lot of that. Lineouts shakey, doesn't seem as busy and isn't breaking tackles or making yards like previous seasons. Just seems to be lacking dynamism.

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                              The thing that strikes me as a bit off about Razor "trying to entice players back"....these are guys that left after they knew he'd be coach. Especially in the case of Richie, if true, it smells fishy. Razor saying don't worry mate just go get your money and we'll sort out more money to get you back?

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                The thing that strikes me as a bit off about Razor "trying to entice players back"....these are guys that left after they knew he'd be coach. Especially in the case of Richie, if true, it smells fishy. Razor saying don't worry mate just go get your money and we'll sort out more money to get you back?

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                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                The thing that strikes me as a bit off about Razor "trying to entice players back"....these are guys that left after they knew he'd be coach. Especially in the case of Richie, if true, it smells fishy. Razor saying don't worry mate just go get your money and we'll sort out more money to get you back?

                                I thought it was weird too but it's a bit of a gamble don't you think? Especially if RM really wanted to continue being an AB. I was actually starting to think things may not have been as rosy at the Saders as we were led to think. Not based on anything other than the Saders missing out on a few young players that I'd have thought would have jumped at the chance to play under Razor. And before you ask, I can't remember who they were.

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                                  Yeah Richie taking off when he's basically being handed the keys, just as "his guy" is becoming coach was a tad bizarre.

                                  On top of that, if Razor thought these guys were that important, why didn't he fight hammer and tongs last year? If he really is pursuing them then it must be panic after seeing SR....

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                                    There's a truckload of conspiracy theories on here based on SFA. The guy hasn't even coached his first game yet.

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                                    • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                                      There's a truckload of conspiracy theories on here based on SFA. The guy hasn't even coached his first game yet.

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                                      @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      There's a truckload of conspiracy theories on here based on SFA. The guy hasn't even coached his first game yet.

                                      In other words standard fern for the last however many years it’s been around

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                                      • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                                        We have been saddled by stuck in the mud selections and misplaced loyalty for far too long. Last 4 years has been painful

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                                        @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        We have been saddled by stuck in the mud selections and misplaced loyalty for far too long. Last 4 years has been painful

                                        That's why the thought of Havili at 12 and now covering 10 is such a refreshing change.

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                                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                          @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          We have been saddled by stuck in the mud selections and misplaced loyalty for far too long. Last 4 years has been painful

                                          That's why the thought of Havili at 12 and now covering 10 is such a refreshing change.

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                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          We have been saddled by stuck in the mud selections and misplaced loyalty for far too long. Last 4 years has been painful

                                          That's why the thought of Havili at 12 and now covering 10 such a refreshing change.

                                          https://giphy.com/gifs/workaholics-comedy-central-season-3-episode-6-3ohfFOvsOJmupPbFpm

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