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All Blacks 2024

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  • ChrisC Chris

    There is a difference between a player with high work rates than a work horse
    Finau is a high work rate player.
    Players who don’t drift in games are high work rate players.They certainly have an impact due to being in the game more than a player who drifts in and out.
    Sotutu,Lakai have high work rates,Jacobsen ,Lilo-Willie ,DP are all high work rate players.

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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    There is a difference between a player with high work rates than a work horse
    Finau is a high work rate player.
    Players who don’t drift in games are high work rate players.They certainly have an impact due to being in the game more than a player who drifts in and out.
    Sotutu,Lakai have high work rates,Jacobsen ,Lilo-Willie ,DP are all high work rate players.

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    Another aspect is consistency between games. McCaw was great at best or still VG on a bad day. Likewise, Carter.

    Others (like me when I played rugby) are all over the place. Canes have all over the place between weeks players. IWL being one. Looking AB quality some weeks and shit (vs Blues) other weeks. Some games he's fired up. Other weeks he looks disinterested.

    My view is Shields is like this as well. And always has been. Iose might be as well. And Kirifi to an extent. Whereas Lakai isn't so far. Hes better some weeks than other but the difference is not great

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      @Duluth I'll leave @ACT-Crusader to do the honours.

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      @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @Duluth I'll leave @ACT-Crusader to do the honours.

      My first squad naming will even surprise Razor….

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        @pakman said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @Duluth I'll leave @ACT-Crusader to do the honours.

        My first squad naming will even surprise Razor….

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        @ACT-Crusader I look forward to it just as much as the actual squad naming.

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          @ACT-Crusader I look forward to it just as much as the actual squad naming.

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          @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @ACT-Crusader I look forward to it just as much as the actual squad naming.

          I’m hoping to name it with plenty of the time before the England series, but the eligibility and passport checks for Johnny McNichol are taking time…

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            Sam Darry doing enough for a call up to the ABs squad IMHO.

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            • dogmeatD dogmeat

              @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              tongue and cheek

              ....in cheek. Tongue in cheek.

              🙂

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              @dogmeat said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @Nepia said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              tongue and cheek

              ....in cheek. Tongue in cheek.

              🙂

              I thought it was deliberate...

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                @sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                I almost feel sorry for Scott Robertson. When he became All Blacks coach he was probably drooling over picking lots of Crusaders and turning the All Blacks into the Crusaderblacks. He was dreaming of the admiring looks he would get from Grizz Wylie and Robbie Deans.

                Six months on. The Crusaders are utter shit. No more than a couple of their players will make the ABs. And Razors going to be giving his first pre-test team talk as AB coach almost exclusively to players from the Blues, the Canes and the Chiefs.

                God damn one of the worst posts I've ever read.

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                @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                God damn one of the worst posts I've ever read.

                I thought it was bloody funny.

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                  Serious post, honest.

                  How about this as a starting 23 for the game against England?

                  1 De Groot
                  2 Taylor
                  3 Lomax
                  4 S. Barrett
                  5. P. Tuipolutu
                  6. Finau
                  7. Papalii
                  8. A.Savea
                  9. TJP
                  10 D Mac
                  11 C. Clarke
                  12 J. Barrett
                  13 B. Proctor
                  14 M. Telea
                  15 R. Love

                  16 Sami T
                  17 Numia
                  18 Newell
                  19 S. Darry
                  20 H. Sotutu
                  21 T.Funaki
                  22 B. Barrett
                  23 R. Ioane

                  Scott or Ardie to captain.

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                    Nah

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      Nah

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                      @Bones Go on.

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                        Sotutu to 8 and Ardie to 7, Dalton on bench. Reece for Clarke, Vaai for Darry and Christie for Funaki. I am OK with the rest.

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                          Is Reiko Ioane injured ?

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                            Is Reiko Ioane injured ?

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                            @MN5 Concussion protocols.

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                              No point starting Perenara. For all his strengths he's still a slow passer of the ball and that's not what you want at the start of a game. Same reason Christie shouldn't be starting.

                              One of Ratima or Funaki has to be wearing No 9. Otherwise poor Damian McKenzie is finally going to get given the No 10 jersey and have terrible delivery.

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                                No point starting Perenara. For all his strengths he's still a slow passer of the ball and that's not what you want at the start of a game. Same reason Christie shouldn't be starting.

                                One of Ratima or Funaki has to be wearing No 9. Otherwise poor Damian McKenzie is finally going to get given the No 10 jersey and have terrible delivery.

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                                @Mr-Fish TJP was fast enough for Beauden Barrett for all those years.

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                                  No point starting Perenara. For all his strengths he's still a slow passer of the ball and that's not what you want at the start of a game. Same reason Christie shouldn't be starting.

                                  One of Ratima or Funaki has to be wearing No 9. Otherwise poor Damian McKenzie is finally going to get given the No 10 jersey and have terrible delivery.

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                                  @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  No point starting Perenara. For all his strengths he's still a slow passer of the ball and that's not what you want at the start of a game. Same reason Christie shouldn't be starting.

                                  One of Ratima or Funaki has to be wearing No 9.

                                  They'll have to balance speed v experience and on balance I think they'll go for the latter as it's the safest option. But if TJP gets injured, I don't want Christie anywhere near the starting XV.

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                                  • M Mr Fish

                                    No point starting Perenara. For all his strengths he's still a slow passer of the ball and that's not what you want at the start of a game. Same reason Christie shouldn't be starting.

                                    One of Ratima or Funaki has to be wearing No 9. Otherwise poor Damian McKenzie is finally going to get given the No 10 jersey and have terrible delivery.

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                                    @Mr-Fish Perenara is our best option atm. Last thing you want to do is throw a full on rookie into the fray when the All Blacks are starting a new era. Perenara will start until Roigard comes back and then I expect Perenara to be the impact halfback after that with Ratima or Funaki getting he odd mins here and there.

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                                      @akan004 The workrate from Vaii in Super rugby has been huge. I am astounded at all the criticism of him

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                                      @ARHS said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      @akan004 The workrate from Vaii in Super rugby has been huge. I am astounded at all the criticism of him

                                      I'm with youmate, I put it dwn to some see criticsm of a player, and instead of watching what he does, just figure it easier to jump on board.

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                                      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                        @Mr-Fish Perenara is our best option atm. Last thing you want to do is throw a full on rookie into the fray when the All Blacks are starting a new era. Perenara will start until Roigard comes back and then I expect Perenara to be the impact halfback after that with Ratima or Funaki getting he odd mins here and there.

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                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        Perenara will start until Roigard comes back

                                        You mentioned his injury is progressing better than expected.
                                        When is he expected back?

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                                          Hoping to be fit for the EOY tour I think

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