All Blacks 2024
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@sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
I almost feel sorry for Scott Robertson. When he became All Blacks coach he was probably drooling over picking lots of Crusaders and turning the All Blacks into the Crusaderblacks. He was dreaming of the admiring looks he would get from Grizz Wylie and Robbie Deans.
Six months on. The Crusaders are utter shit. No more than a couple of their players will make the ABs. And Razors going to be giving his first pre-test team talk as AB coach almost exclusively to players from the Blues, the Canes and the Chiefs.
God damn one of the worst posts I've ever read.
@Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
God damn one of the worst posts I've ever read.
I thought it was bloody funny.
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Serious post, honest.
How about this as a starting 23 for the game against England?
1 De Groot
2 Taylor
3 Lomax
4 S. Barrett
5. P. Tuipolutu
6. Finau
7. Papalii
8. A.Savea
9. TJP
10 D Mac
11 C. Clarke
12 J. Barrett
13 B. Proctor
14 M. Telea
15 R. Love16 Sami T
17 Numia
18 Newell
19 S. Darry
20 H. Sotutu
21 T.Funaki
22 B. Barrett
23 R. IoaneScott or Ardie to captain.
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No point starting Perenara. For all his strengths he's still a slow passer of the ball and that's not what you want at the start of a game. Same reason Christie shouldn't be starting.
One of Ratima or Funaki has to be wearing No 9. Otherwise poor Damian McKenzie is finally going to get given the No 10 jersey and have terrible delivery.
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No point starting Perenara. For all his strengths he's still a slow passer of the ball and that's not what you want at the start of a game. Same reason Christie shouldn't be starting.
One of Ratima or Funaki has to be wearing No 9. Otherwise poor Damian McKenzie is finally going to get given the No 10 jersey and have terrible delivery.
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No point starting Perenara. For all his strengths he's still a slow passer of the ball and that's not what you want at the start of a game. Same reason Christie shouldn't be starting.
One of Ratima or Funaki has to be wearing No 9. Otherwise poor Damian McKenzie is finally going to get given the No 10 jersey and have terrible delivery.
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
No point starting Perenara. For all his strengths he's still a slow passer of the ball and that's not what you want at the start of a game. Same reason Christie shouldn't be starting.
One of Ratima or Funaki has to be wearing No 9.
They'll have to balance speed v experience and on balance I think they'll go for the latter as it's the safest option. But if TJP gets injured, I don't want Christie anywhere near the starting XV.
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No point starting Perenara. For all his strengths he's still a slow passer of the ball and that's not what you want at the start of a game. Same reason Christie shouldn't be starting.
One of Ratima or Funaki has to be wearing No 9. Otherwise poor Damian McKenzie is finally going to get given the No 10 jersey and have terrible delivery.
@Mr-Fish Perenara is our best option atm. Last thing you want to do is throw a full on rookie into the fray when the All Blacks are starting a new era. Perenara will start until Roigard comes back and then I expect Perenara to be the impact halfback after that with Ratima or Funaki getting he odd mins here and there.
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@akan004 The workrate from Vaii in Super rugby has been huge. I am astounded at all the criticism of him
@ARHS said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@akan004 The workrate from Vaii in Super rugby has been huge. I am astounded at all the criticism of him
I'm with youmate, I put it dwn to some see criticsm of a player, and instead of watching what he does, just figure it easier to jump on board.
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@Mr-Fish Perenara is our best option atm. Last thing you want to do is throw a full on rookie into the fray when the All Blacks are starting a new era. Perenara will start until Roigard comes back and then I expect Perenara to be the impact halfback after that with Ratima or Funaki getting he odd mins here and there.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Perenara will start until Roigard comes back
You mentioned his injury is progressing better than expected.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
Perenara will start until Roigard comes back
You mentioned his injury is progressing better than expected.
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@Mr-Fish Perenara is our best option atm. Last thing you want to do is throw a full on rookie into the fray when the All Blacks are starting a new era. Perenara will start until Roigard comes back and then I expect Perenara to be the impact halfback after that with Ratima or Funaki getting he odd mins here and there.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Mr-Fish Perenara is our best option atm. Last thing you want to do is throw a full on rookie into the fray when the All Blacks are starting a new era. Perenara will start until Roigard comes back and then I expect Perenara to be the impact halfback after that with Ratima or Funaki getting he odd mins here and there.
Steve Hansen handed Aaron Smith the starting jersey in 2012 on his Test debut and the All Blacks never looked back. Robertson should be looking to do something similar.
Perenara isn't a better player now than be was two years ago and two years ago he was a handbreak for the l Blacks' attack.
I understand the arguments for starting Perenara, I just think picking a good halfback is more important than picking an experienced halfback.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Mr-Fish Perenara is our best option atm. Last thing you want to do is throw a full on rookie into the fray when the All Blacks are starting a new era. Perenara will start until Roigard comes back and then I expect Perenara to be the impact halfback after that with Ratima or Funaki getting he odd mins here and there.
Steve Hansen handed Aaron Smith the starting jersey in 2012 on his Test debut and the All Blacks never looked back. Robertson should be looking to do something similar.
Perenara isn't a better player now than be was two years ago and two years ago he was a handbreak for the l Blacks' attack.
I understand the arguments for starting Perenara, I just think picking a good halfback is more important than picking an experienced halfback.
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Mr-Fish Perenara is our best option atm. Last thing you want to do is throw a full on rookie into the fray when the All Blacks are starting a new era. Perenara will start until Roigard comes back and then I expect Perenara to be the impact halfback after that with Ratima or Funaki getting he odd mins here and there.
Steve Hansen handed Aaron Smith the starting jersey in 2012 on his Test debut and the All Blacks never looked back. Robertson should be looking to do something similar.
Perenara isn't a better player now than be was two years ago and two years ago he was a handbreak for the l Blacks' attack.
I understand the arguments for starting Perenara, I just think picking a good halfback is more important than picking an experienced halfback.
When Christie is a potential alternative I think Perenara is a very compelling option.
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@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Mr-Fish Perenara is our best option atm. Last thing you want to do is throw a full on rookie into the fray when the All Blacks are starting a new era. Perenara will start until Roigard comes back and then I expect Perenara to be the impact halfback after that with Ratima or Funaki getting he odd mins here and there.
Steve Hansen handed Aaron Smith the starting jersey in 2012 on his Test debut and the All Blacks never looked back. Robertson should be looking to do something similar.
Perenara isn't a better player now than be was two years ago and two years ago he was a handbreak for the l Blacks' attack.
I understand the arguments for starting Perenara, I just think picking a good halfback is more important than picking an experienced halfback.
When Christie is a potential alternative I think Perenara is a very compelling option.
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@Frank not sure when expected back but he was initially out for 6 months. My understanding is he will be available well before that timeframe.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Frank not sure when expected back but he was initially out for 6 months. My understanding is he will be available well before that timeframe.
I don't expect him to be 100% for some time. I don't have any clinical basis for this, but it's a serious injury and it has to take a while to come back
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Mr-Fish Perenara is our best option atm. Last thing you want to do is throw a full on rookie into the fray when the All Blacks are starting a new era. Perenara will start until Roigard comes back and then I expect Perenara to be the impact halfback after that with Ratima or Funaki getting he odd mins here and there.
Steve Hansen handed Aaron Smith the starting jersey in 2012 on his Test debut and the All Blacks never looked back. Robertson should be looking to do something similar.
Perenara isn't a better player now than be was two years ago and two years ago he was a handbreak for the l Blacks' attack.
I understand the arguments for starting Perenara, I just think picking a good halfback is more important than picking an experienced halfback.
@Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:
@Mr-Fish Perenara is our best option atm. Last thing you want to do is throw a full on rookie into the fray when the All Blacks are starting a new era. Perenara will start until Roigard comes back and then I expect Perenara to be the impact halfback after that with Ratima or Funaki getting he odd mins here and there.
Steve Hansen handed Aaron Smith the starting jersey in 2012 on his Test debut and the All Blacks never looked back. Robertson should be looking to do something similar.
Perenara isn't a better player now than be was two years ago and two years ago he was a handbreak for the l Blacks' attack.
I understand the arguments for starting Perenara, I just think picking a good halfback is more important than picking an experienced halfback.
Perenara is a good option and an experienced option. Perenara has been in fine form, not sure who you’ve been watching if you think he isn’t out top halfback atm. His pass has been a bit shaper than a couple years ago aswell in my view. A big reason is his fitness, the silver lining of spending so long on the sidelines is was he was able to spend time working on improving his skillset aswell as getting into the best shape of his life.
