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All Blacks 2024

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  • gt12G gt12

    @Bovidae

    NZRU saving money on player travel.

    Those consultants from Silver Lake earning their money already.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    @Bovidae

    NZRU saving money on player travel.

    I didn't want to state the obvious. 🙂

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    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

      @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      "Blackadder McCleod"

      Great name for a love-child.... 🙂

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      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      "Blackadder McCleod"

      Great name for a love-child.... 🙂

      Better than Strange Grace or Lio-Willie Williams?

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      • F Frank

        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        I read that the squad announcement will be in Chch. Convenience or some other reason?

        Short trip for the squad announcement for Grace, Strange, Havili, Blackadder-McCleod-Meldrew, Newell, Williams, and Lio-Willie.👍

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        @Frank said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        I read that the squad announcement will be in Chch. Convenience or some other reason?

        Short trip for the squad announcement for Grace, Strange, Havili, Blackadder-McCleod-Meldrew, Newell, Williams, and Lio-Willie.👍

        They’ve already booked an Uber from Christchurch airport to grab George Bridge too

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @Bovidae

          NZRU saving money on player travel.

          I didn't want to state the obvious. 🙂

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          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @Bovidae

          NZRU saving money on player travel.

          I didn't want to state the obvious. 🙂

          Honestly, apart from the fact that Strange is now basically a certainty, my feeling is that this likely indicates Barrett or Taylor announced as captain.

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            @Duluth That's a reasonable assessment.

            That must be an old weight for Darry - looks a good 10kgs heavier to me. Assuming so, that's the dimensions I'd be looking for in a lock.

            In an interview last week, Scott Barrett said he'd have been 50-50 to play if there had been a game at the weekend, so that's promising for England.

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            @Chris-B

            I think this shows that we have a short term experience problem at lock which should be turned into a position of strength and depth within 18 months.

            There is plenty of talent

            Barrett is a world class lock so big ✅ for one of the 3 locking roles in a match day 23.

            Vai’l has been a leader since high school (head boy at school) so Thrusting Vai’i into a senior role could be the making of him. His newfound seniority at the chiefs have seen him go up a level with his lineout work amongst the best in the comp.

            Tuipolotu will be a valuable resource for the next 2 seasons. Just a shame he is not fit for the England series but he has a valuable part to play.

            Out of the uncapped locks, there is talent but it needs to be tested at the highest level. Out of the 5 or 6 options listed, you would expect a couple of them to really take an opportunity handed to them and grow into international class players.

            We need some of these 2.03m/2.04m players to really step up as the lineout is shortish with the above 3 locks being under 2 metres.

            The good news is that the pack looks like it will be very good so that will make it easier to support and embed the young inexperienced locks into it.

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              @Chris-B

              I think this shows that we have a short term experience problem at lock which should be turned into a position of strength and depth within 18 months.

              There is plenty of talent

              Barrett is a world class lock so big ✅ for one of the 3 locking roles in a match day 23.

              Vai’l has been a leader since high school (head boy at school) so Thrusting Vai’i into a senior role could be the making of him. His newfound seniority at the chiefs have seen him go up a level with his lineout work amongst the best in the comp.

              Tuipolotu will be a valuable resource for the next 2 seasons. Just a shame he is not fit for the England series but he has a valuable part to play.

              Out of the uncapped locks, there is talent but it needs to be tested at the highest level. Out of the 5 or 6 options listed, you would expect a couple of them to really take an opportunity handed to them and grow into international class players.

              We need some of these 2.03m/2.04m players to really step up as the lineout is shortish with the above 3 locks being under 2 metres.

              The good news is that the pack looks like it will be very good so that will make it easier to support and embed the young inexperienced locks into it.

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              Chris B.
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              @DaGrubster Yeah - I agree.

              It's very unfortunate that Barrett, Tuipolotu and Lord are all injured right now - because ideally we'd have those three and Vaa'i in the squad for this year, with several other young and tall guys bubbling under. If all of Lord, Darry and Holland can live up to their promise, we'd have quite an arsenal of 2+ metre locks.

              All going well we'll at least have Barrett and Vaa'i available for England.

              It will be pretty concerning if we don't have Scott available.

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              • G george33

                Sam Darry, just stay fit and he will be in

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                @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                Sam Darry, just stay fit and he will be in

                My source tells me he's 50-50

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                • F Frank

                  @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  Sam Darry, just stay fit and he will be in

                  My source tells me he's 50-50

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                  @Frank definitely 50/50, he does have baggage with couple people hopefully they can work around that

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                  • F Frank

                    @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    Sam Darry, just stay fit and he will be in

                    My source tells me he's 50-50

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                    @Frank well that's good / bad news

                    delete as appropriate

                    Nice to have people in the know sharing.

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                    • G george33

                      @Frank definitely 50/50, he does have baggage with couple people hopefully they can work around that

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                      @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Frank definitely 50/50, he does have baggage with couple people hopefully they can work around that

                      Papalii as captain - 50-50 George?

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                      • F Frank

                        @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        @Frank definitely 50/50, he does have baggage with couple people hopefully they can work around that

                        Papalii as captain - 50-50 George?

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                        @Frank I see were you going with this , obviously ruffled few hurricanes feathers yesterday,

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                          @Frank I see were you going with this , obviously ruffled few hurricanes feathers yesterday,

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                          Frank
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                          @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                          @Frank I see were you going with this , obviously ruffled few hurricanes feathers yesterday,

                          That's a 50-50 call. (I don't support the Hurricanes)

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                            @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Frank I see were you going with this , obviously ruffled few hurricanes feathers yesterday,

                            That's a 50-50 call. (I don't support the Hurricanes)

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                            @Frank what's your team then ?

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                              @Frank what's your team then ?

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                              @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @Frank what's your team then ?

                              None really.
                              Perhaps the Floncy Fairweathers?

                              I just enjoy new stars emerging from any team (Roigard and Finau for instance).

                              I have never lived in NZ while Super has been played except Uni' at Auckland, never went to high school in NZ either, and my childhood town, Gisborne, is miles from any base)

                              So, it's a 50-50 call on any game.

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                                @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @Frank what's your team then ?

                                None really.
                                Perhaps the Floncy Fairweathers?

                                I just enjoy new stars emerging from any team (Roigard and Finau for instance).

                                I have never lived in NZ while Super has been played except Uni' at Auckland, never went to high school in NZ either, and my childhood town, Gisborne, is miles from any base)

                                So, it's a 50-50 call on any game.

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                                @Frank very nice

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                                  Richard Knowler runs his eye over the likely AB squad based on form

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350307467/all-blacks-barometer-whos-contention-ahead-tests-against-england

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                                    I reckon Love could cover wing and make a decent fist of it. Very Smith/Jane like.

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                                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                      Richard Knowler runs his eye over the likely AB squad based on form

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350307467/all-blacks-barometer-whos-contention-ahead-tests-against-england

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                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      Richard Knowler runs his eye over the likely AB squad based on form

                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350307467/all-blacks-barometer-whos-contention-ahead-tests-against-england
                                      Jimmy Tupou's presence among the AB contenders is a bit odd. There are many other locks to name ahead of him IMO.

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                                        The whole barometer system is a bit random. Players who have been injured for a couple of weeks are excluded, as are guys who are based overseas. It's fine if you're just talking about potential selections but everyone knows that Ardie Savea is going to be in the squad and that changes the make-up of the loose forwards. It also feels fairly reactive, which I suppose is necessary if you want to change the squad up every two weeks. Ultimately, 75 per cent of the squad could have been predicted at the start of the season by every Tom, Dick and Harry.

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                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          Richard Knowler runs his eye over the likely AB squad based on form

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350307467/all-blacks-barometer-whos-contention-ahead-tests-against-england
                                          Jimmy Tupou's presence among the AB contenders is a bit odd. There are many other locks to name ahead of him IMO.

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                                          @cgrant said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          Richard Knowler runs his eye over the likely AB squad based on form

                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350307467/all-blacks-barometer-whos-contention-ahead-tests-against-england
                                          Jimmy Tupou's presence among the AB contenders is a bit odd. There are many other locks to name ahead of him IMO.

                                          Downvote.

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