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All Blacks 2024

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  • D DaGrubster

    @Chris-B

    I think this shows that we have a short term experience problem at lock which should be turned into a position of strength and depth within 18 months.

    There is plenty of talent

    Barrett is a world class lock so big ✅ for one of the 3 locking roles in a match day 23.

    Vai’l has been a leader since high school (head boy at school) so Thrusting Vai’i into a senior role could be the making of him. His newfound seniority at the chiefs have seen him go up a level with his lineout work amongst the best in the comp.

    Tuipolotu will be a valuable resource for the next 2 seasons. Just a shame he is not fit for the England series but he has a valuable part to play.

    Out of the uncapped locks, there is talent but it needs to be tested at the highest level. Out of the 5 or 6 options listed, you would expect a couple of them to really take an opportunity handed to them and grow into international class players.

    We need some of these 2.03m/2.04m players to really step up as the lineout is shortish with the above 3 locks being under 2 metres.

    The good news is that the pack looks like it will be very good so that will make it easier to support and embed the young inexperienced locks into it.

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    Chris B.
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    @DaGrubster Yeah - I agree.

    It's very unfortunate that Barrett, Tuipolotu and Lord are all injured right now - because ideally we'd have those three and Vaa'i in the squad for this year, with several other young and tall guys bubbling under. If all of Lord, Darry and Holland can live up to their promise, we'd have quite an arsenal of 2+ metre locks.

    All going well we'll at least have Barrett and Vaa'i available for England.

    It will be pretty concerning if we don't have Scott available.

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    • G george33

      Sam Darry, just stay fit and he will be in

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      @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      Sam Darry, just stay fit and he will be in

      My source tells me he's 50-50

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      • F Frank

        @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        Sam Darry, just stay fit and he will be in

        My source tells me he's 50-50

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        @Frank definitely 50/50, he does have baggage with couple people hopefully they can work around that

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        • F Frank

          @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          Sam Darry, just stay fit and he will be in

          My source tells me he's 50-50

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          @Frank well that's good / bad news

          delete as appropriate

          Nice to have people in the know sharing.

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          • G george33

            @Frank definitely 50/50, he does have baggage with couple people hopefully they can work around that

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            @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @Frank definitely 50/50, he does have baggage with couple people hopefully they can work around that

            Papalii as captain - 50-50 George?

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              @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @Frank definitely 50/50, he does have baggage with couple people hopefully they can work around that

              Papalii as captain - 50-50 George?

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              @Frank I see were you going with this , obviously ruffled few hurricanes feathers yesterday,

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                @Frank I see were you going with this , obviously ruffled few hurricanes feathers yesterday,

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                @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @Frank I see were you going with this , obviously ruffled few hurricanes feathers yesterday,

                That's a 50-50 call. (I don't support the Hurricanes)

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                  @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @Frank I see were you going with this , obviously ruffled few hurricanes feathers yesterday,

                  That's a 50-50 call. (I don't support the Hurricanes)

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                  @Frank what's your team then ?

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                  • G george33

                    @Frank what's your team then ?

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                    @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                    @Frank what's your team then ?

                    None really.
                    Perhaps the Floncy Fairweathers?

                    I just enjoy new stars emerging from any team (Roigard and Finau for instance).

                    I have never lived in NZ while Super has been played except Uni' at Auckland, never went to high school in NZ either, and my childhood town, Gisborne, is miles from any base)

                    So, it's a 50-50 call on any game.

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                      @george33 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                      @Frank what's your team then ?

                      None really.
                      Perhaps the Floncy Fairweathers?

                      I just enjoy new stars emerging from any team (Roigard and Finau for instance).

                      I have never lived in NZ while Super has been played except Uni' at Auckland, never went to high school in NZ either, and my childhood town, Gisborne, is miles from any base)

                      So, it's a 50-50 call on any game.

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                      @Frank very nice

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                        Richard Knowler runs his eye over the likely AB squad based on form

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350307467/all-blacks-barometer-whos-contention-ahead-tests-against-england

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                          I reckon Love could cover wing and make a decent fist of it. Very Smith/Jane like.

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                          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                            Richard Knowler runs his eye over the likely AB squad based on form

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350307467/all-blacks-barometer-whos-contention-ahead-tests-against-england

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                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            Richard Knowler runs his eye over the likely AB squad based on form

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350307467/all-blacks-barometer-whos-contention-ahead-tests-against-england
                            Jimmy Tupou's presence among the AB contenders is a bit odd. There are many other locks to name ahead of him IMO.

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                              The whole barometer system is a bit random. Players who have been injured for a couple of weeks are excluded, as are guys who are based overseas. It's fine if you're just talking about potential selections but everyone knows that Ardie Savea is going to be in the squad and that changes the make-up of the loose forwards. It also feels fairly reactive, which I suppose is necessary if you want to change the squad up every two weeks. Ultimately, 75 per cent of the squad could have been predicted at the start of the season by every Tom, Dick and Harry.

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                                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                Richard Knowler runs his eye over the likely AB squad based on form

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350307467/all-blacks-barometer-whos-contention-ahead-tests-against-england
                                Jimmy Tupou's presence among the AB contenders is a bit odd. There are many other locks to name ahead of him IMO.

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                                @cgrant said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                Richard Knowler runs his eye over the likely AB squad based on form

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350307467/all-blacks-barometer-whos-contention-ahead-tests-against-england
                                Jimmy Tupou's presence among the AB contenders is a bit odd. There are many other locks to name ahead of him IMO.

                                Downvote.

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                                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                  Richard Knowler runs his eye over the likely AB squad based on form

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350307467/all-blacks-barometer-whos-contention-ahead-tests-against-england

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                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  Richard Knowler runs his eye over the likely AB squad based on form

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350307467/all-blacks-barometer-whos-contention-ahead-tests-against-england

                                  Not picking Lomax to start. Fuck off!

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                                    Mr Fish
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                                    My personal 'barometer' (with the numbers actually adding up correctly, unlike Richard Knowler's random percentages):

                                    Hookers
                                    Codie Taylor - 100%
                                    Samisoni Taukei'aho - 100%
                                    Asafo Aumua - 100%

                                    Props
                                    Ethan de Groot - 100%
                                    Tyrel Lomax - 100%
                                    Fletcher Newell - 100%
                                    Tamaiti Williams - 80%
                                    Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 60%
                                    Xaver Numia - 50%
                                    George Bower - 50%
                                    George Dyer - 10%

                                    Locks
                                    Scott Barrett - 100%
                                    Tupou Vaa'i - 100%
                                    Quinten Strange - 80%
                                    Sam Darry - 50%
                                    Naitoa Ah Kuoi - 30%
                                    Isaia Walker-Leawere - 20%
                                    Jamie Hannah - 20%

                                    Loose forwards
                                    Ardie Savea - 100%
                                    Dalton Papali'i - 100%
                                    Samipeni Finau - 70%
                                    Ethan Blackadder - 60%
                                    Hoskins Sotutu - 50%
                                    Christian Lio-Willie - 50%
                                    Peter Lakai - 50%
                                    Luke Jacobson - 40%
                                    Brayden Iose - 30%

                                    Halfbacks
                                    Finlay Christie - 80%
                                    TJ Perenara - 80%
                                    Cortez Ratima - 50%
                                    Taufa Funaki - 40%
                                    Folau Fakatava - 30%
                                    Noah Hotham - 20%

                                    First fives
                                    Damian McKenzie - 100%
                                    Beauden Barrett - 100%
                                    Harry Plummer - 30%
                                    Cam Millar - 10%

                                    Midfield
                                    Jordie Barrett - 100%
                                    Anton Lienert-Brown - 100%
                                    Rieko Ioane - 100%
                                    Billy Proctor - 70%
                                    David Havili - 15%
                                    Quinn Tupaea - 10%
                                    Rameka Poihipi - 5%

                                    Outside backs
                                    Mark Tele'a - 100%
                                    Sevu Reece - 100%
                                    Ruben Love - 100%
                                    Caleb Clarke - 80%
                                    Emoni Narawa - 60%
                                    Etene Nanai-Seturo - 20%

                                    Note: I've assumed Patrick Tuipulotu is unavailable but that Xavier Numia is fit for the series.

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                                      All Blacks add Corey Flynn and David Hill to coaching staff
                                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350308970/all-blacks-add-corey-flynn-and-david-hill-coaching-staff

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        I read that the squad announcement will be in Chch. Convenience or some other reason?

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                                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        I read that the squad announcement will be in Chch. Convenience or some other reason?

                                        Isn't it going to be from Razor's club Sumner? Think I heard that at some stage on Breakdown. No probs it got to be done somewhere.

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                                        • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                          All Blacks add Corey Flynn and David Hill to coaching staff
                                          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350308970/all-blacks-add-corey-flynn-and-david-hill-coaching-staff

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                                          @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          All Blacks add Corey Flynn and David Hill to coaching staff

                                          We're gonna need a bigger bus.

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