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  • M Mr Fish

    My personal 'barometer' (with the numbers actually adding up correctly, unlike Richard Knowler's random percentages):

    Hookers
    Codie Taylor - 100%
    Samisoni Taukei'aho - 100%
    Asafo Aumua - 100%

    Props
    Ethan de Groot - 100%
    Tyrel Lomax - 100%
    Fletcher Newell - 100%
    Tamaiti Williams - 80%
    Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 60%
    Xaver Numia - 50%
    George Bower - 50%
    George Dyer - 10%

    Locks
    Scott Barrett - 100%
    Tupou Vaa'i - 100%
    Quinten Strange - 80%
    Sam Darry - 50%
    Naitoa Ah Kuoi - 30%
    Isaia Walker-Leawere - 20%
    Jamie Hannah - 20%

    Loose forwards
    Ardie Savea - 100%
    Dalton Papali'i - 100%
    Samipeni Finau - 70%
    Ethan Blackadder - 60%
    Hoskins Sotutu - 50%
    Christian Lio-Willie - 50%
    Peter Lakai - 50%
    Luke Jacobson - 40%
    Brayden Iose - 30%

    Halfbacks
    Finlay Christie - 80%
    TJ Perenara - 80%
    Cortez Ratima - 50%
    Taufa Funaki - 40%
    Folau Fakatava - 30%
    Noah Hotham - 20%

    First fives
    Damian McKenzie - 100%
    Beauden Barrett - 100%
    Harry Plummer - 30%
    Cam Millar - 10%

    Midfield
    Jordie Barrett - 100%
    Anton Lienert-Brown - 100%
    Rieko Ioane - 100%
    Billy Proctor - 70%
    David Havili - 15%
    Quinn Tupaea - 10%
    Rameka Poihipi - 5%

    Outside backs
    Mark Tele'a - 100%
    Sevu Reece - 100%
    Ruben Love - 100%
    Caleb Clarke - 80%
    Emoni Narawa - 60%
    Etene Nanai-Seturo - 20%

    Note: I've assumed Patrick Tuipulotu is unavailable but that Xavier Numia is fit for the series.

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    @Mr-Fish A good effort. That looks about right.

    I think Lakai will make it. I'm not sure Strange is a Test quality lock.

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    • sparkyS sparky

      @Mr-Fish A good effort. That looks about right.

      I think Lakai will make it. I'm not sure Strange is a Test quality lock.

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      #2871

      @sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

      I'm not sure Strange is a Test quality lock.

      Can confirm for you that he definitely isn’t.

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      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

        @Mr-Fish I'd switch Lio-Willie and Lakai around. The only reason Lio-Willie is really in the conversation is because he's a Crusader. Realistically Jacobsen, Lakai and Iose should have more of a chance of making it on form, especially now Ioane is leaving.

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        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        Realistically Jacobsen, Lakai and Iose should have more of a chance of making it on form, especially now Ioane is leaving.

        Dont be silly! Tom Christie is ahead of all of them! He’s a Crusader 7!

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          Where is Corey Kellow rated then? Must be a chance?

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          • A ARHS

            Where is Corey Kellow rated then? Must be a chance?

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            @ARHS said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            Where is Corey Kellow rated then? Must be a chance?

            AB XV - already better than Grace.

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              Sotutu also has a the problem of being a specialist. He's one of the few loosies in NZ that genuinely only plays one position. He doesn't even get moved late in games

              That counts against him if he's not a starter. It's more disruptive to fit a guy like that on the bench.

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              @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              Sotutu also has a the problem of being a specialist.

              Especially when the player he is competing with is the only certainty to start in the loose forward trio.

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              • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                Shows the benefit of being in a winning team eh

                bro didn't Frizzell the lessor get the 6 jersey from your bench?

                Was an incumbent already though. He did come good at the World Cup too

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                @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                Shows the benefit of being in a winning team eh

                bro didn't Frizzell the lessor get the 6 jersey from your bench?

                Was an incumbent already though. He did come good at the World Cup too

                What fucking alternate universe world cup did you watch?

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                • antipodeanA antipodean

                  @ARHS said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  Where is Corey Kellow rated then? Must be a chance?

                  AB XV - already better than Grace.

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                  @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  @ARHS said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                  Where is Corey Kellow rated then? Must be a chance?

                  AB XV - already better than Grace.

                  I think Grace will be in the All Blacks.

                  That’s not to say that I would pick him but I think two thirds of their best loose trio will make it, and it won’t include the best of the three.

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                    https://www.planetrugby.com/news/scott-robertson-addresses-concerns-around-crusaders-bias-ahead-of-first-all-blacks-squad-announcement

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                      https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350309174/which-players-will-all-blacks-selectors-scrutinise-most-super-rugby-pacific-semis

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                      • DuluthD Duluth

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350309174/which-players-will-all-blacks-selectors-scrutinise-most-super-rugby-pacific-semis

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                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350309174/which-players-will-all-blacks-selectors-scrutinise-most-super-rugby-pacific-semis

                        My uncle overheard a convo Razor was having at a local Sumner cafe yesterday when he was ordering his coffee and he was talking about the Canes 7, 8 and 15 which we can all assume is Lakai, Iose and Love. My assumption is that he will be watching those guys with great intent on Saturday.

                        I was down in Chch for work a month ago and got to meet Razor in person. What a guy he is. We went for a walk one morning and he came flying by on his bike, gave my uncle a high five almost taking his arm off and had a quick chat, which he almost does with my uncle nearly every morning. My uncle isn't someone that bothers Razor too much but he gave me that feedback yesterday being a Canes supporter. Interesting indeed. He probably has three Chiefs players he'll be looking at closely on Saturday aswell.

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                          Not too much info in this, but mentions that the prop mix and loose forward selection have had plenty of debate. Also name drops Vaa'i and Aumua as players who have learnt from Retallick and Coles, respectively, and taken on more responsibility.

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                          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                            @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350309174/which-players-will-all-blacks-selectors-scrutinise-most-super-rugby-pacific-semis

                            My uncle overheard a convo Razor was having at a local Sumner cafe yesterday when he was ordering his coffee and he was talking about the Canes 7, 8 and 15 which we can all assume is Lakai, Iose and Love. My assumption is that he will be watching those guys with great intent on Saturday.

                            I was down in Chch for work a month ago and got to meet Razor in person. What a guy he is. We went for a walk one morning and he came flying by on his bike, gave my uncle a high five almost taking his arm off and had a quick chat, which he almost does with my uncle nearly every morning. My uncle isn't someone that bothers Razor too much but he gave me that feedback yesterday being a Canes supporter. Interesting indeed. He probably has three Chiefs players he'll be looking at closely on Saturday aswell.

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                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350309174/which-players-will-all-blacks-selectors-scrutinise-most-super-rugby-pacific-semis

                            My uncle overheard a convo Razor was having at a local Sumner cafe yesterday when he was ordering his coffee and he was talking about the Canes 7, 8 and 15 which we can all assume is Lakai, Iose and Love. My assumption is that he will be watching those guys with great intent on Saturday.

                            I was down in Chch for work a month ago and got to meet Razor in person. What a guy he is. We went for a walk one morning and he came flying by on his bike, gave my uncle a high five almost taking his arm off and had a quick chat, which he almost does with my uncle nearly every morning. My uncle isn't someone that bothers Razor too much but he gave me that feedback yesterday being a Canes supporter. Interesting indeed. He probably has three Chiefs players he'll be looking at closely on Saturday aswell.

                            Was it your uncle or Razor who didn't know the names of the Hurricanes players?

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                            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                              @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350309174/which-players-will-all-blacks-selectors-scrutinise-most-super-rugby-pacific-semis

                              My uncle overheard a convo Razor was having at a local Sumner cafe yesterday when he was ordering his coffee and he was talking about the Canes 7, 8 and 15 which we can all assume is Lakai, Iose and Love. My assumption is that he will be watching those guys with great intent on Saturday.

                              I was down in Chch for work a month ago and got to meet Razor in person. What a guy he is. We went for a walk one morning and he came flying by on his bike, gave my uncle a high five almost taking his arm off and had a quick chat, which he almost does with my uncle nearly every morning. My uncle isn't someone that bothers Razor too much but he gave me that feedback yesterday being a Canes supporter. Interesting indeed. He probably has three Chiefs players he'll be looking at closely on Saturday aswell.

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                              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350309174/which-players-will-all-blacks-selectors-scrutinise-most-super-rugby-pacific-semis

                              My uncle overheard a convo Razor was having at a local Sumner cafe yesterday when he was ordering his coffee and he was talking about the Canes 7, 8 and 15 which we can all assume is Lakai, Iose and Love. My assumption is that he will be watching those guys with great intent on Saturday.

                              I was down in Chch for work a month ago and got to meet Razor in person. What a guy he is. We went for a walk one morning and he came flying by on his bike, gave my uncle a high five almost taking his arm off and had a quick chat, which he almost does with my uncle nearly every morning. My uncle isn't someone that bothers Razor too much but he gave me that feedback yesterday being a Canes supporter. Interesting indeed. He probably has three Chiefs players he'll be looking at closely on Saturday aswell.

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                                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350309174/which-players-will-all-blacks-selectors-scrutinise-most-super-rugby-pacific-semis

                                My uncle overheard a convo Razor was having at a local Sumner cafe yesterday when he was ordering his coffee and he was talking about the Canes 7, 8 and 15 which we can all assume is Lakai, Iose and Love. My assumption is that he will be watching those guys with great intent on Saturday.

                                I was down in Chch for work a month ago and got to meet Razor in person. What a guy he is. We went for a walk one morning and he came flying by on his bike, gave my uncle a high five almost taking his arm off and had a quick chat, which he almost does with my uncle nearly every morning. My uncle isn't someone that bothers Razor too much but he gave me that feedback yesterday being a Canes supporter. Interesting indeed. He probably has three Chiefs players he'll be looking at closely on Saturday aswell.

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                                @mariner4life the man obviously knows talent when he sees it.

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                                • M Mr Fish

                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350309174/which-players-will-all-blacks-selectors-scrutinise-most-super-rugby-pacific-semis

                                  My uncle overheard a convo Razor was having at a local Sumner cafe yesterday when he was ordering his coffee and he was talking about the Canes 7, 8 and 15 which we can all assume is Lakai, Iose and Love. My assumption is that he will be watching those guys with great intent on Saturday.

                                  I was down in Chch for work a month ago and got to meet Razor in person. What a guy he is. We went for a walk one morning and he came flying by on his bike, gave my uncle a high five almost taking his arm off and had a quick chat, which he almost does with my uncle nearly every morning. My uncle isn't someone that bothers Razor too much but he gave me that feedback yesterday being a Canes supporter. Interesting indeed. He probably has three Chiefs players he'll be looking at closely on Saturday aswell.

                                  Was it your uncle or Razor who didn't know the names of the Hurricanes players?

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                                  @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350309174/which-players-will-all-blacks-selectors-scrutinise-most-super-rugby-pacific-semis

                                  My uncle overheard a convo Razor was having at a local Sumner cafe yesterday when he was ordering his coffee and he was talking about the Canes 7, 8 and 15 which we can all assume is Lakai, Iose and Love. My assumption is that he will be watching those guys with great intent on Saturday.

                                  I was down in Chch for work a month ago and got to meet Razor in person. What a guy he is. We went for a walk one morning and he came flying by on his bike, gave my uncle a high five almost taking his arm off and had a quick chat, which he almost does with my uncle nearly every morning. My uncle isn't someone that bothers Razor too much but he gave me that feedback yesterday being a Canes supporter. Interesting indeed. He probably has three Chiefs players he'll be looking at closely on Saturday aswell.

                                  Was it your uncle or Razor who didn't know the names of the Hurricanes players?

                                  My uncle who is one-eyed as you can get. 😄

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                                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350309174/which-players-will-all-blacks-selectors-scrutinise-most-super-rugby-pacific-semis

                                    My uncle overheard a convo Razor was having at a local Sumner cafe yesterday when he was ordering his coffee and he was talking about the Canes 7, 8 and 15 which we can all assume is Lakai, Iose and Love. My assumption is that he will be watching those guys with great intent on Saturday.

                                    I was down in Chch for work a month ago and got to meet Razor in person. What a guy he is. We went for a walk one morning and he came flying by on his bike, gave my uncle a high five almost taking his arm off and had a quick chat, which he almost does with my uncle nearly every morning. My uncle isn't someone that bothers Razor too much but he gave me that feedback yesterday being a Canes supporter. Interesting indeed. He probably has three Chiefs players he'll be looking at closely on Saturday aswell.

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                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    he was talking about the Canes 7, 8 and 15 which we can all assume is Lakai, Iose and Love. My assumption is that he will be watching those guys with great intent on Saturday.

                                    I'd be worried if he wasn't. Blind Freddy would be watching those 3 in the biggest game of their careers so far to see how they go - a precursor to see how they would go with the step up to test rugby.

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      he was talking about the Canes 7, 8 and 15 which we can all assume is Lakai, Iose and Love. My assumption is that he will be watching those guys with great intent on Saturday.

                                      I'd be worried if he wasn't. Blind Freddy would be watching those 3 in the biggest game of their careers so far to see how they go - a precursor to see how they would go with the step up to test rugby.

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                                      @KiwiMurph I wonder if the AB coaches will be at both semi finals.

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                                        @KiwiMurph I wonder if the AB coaches will be at both semi finals.

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                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        @KiwiMurph I wonder if they AB coaches will be at both semi finals.

                                        You would think they very much should be.

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          @KiwiMurph I wonder if the AB coaches will be at both semi finals.

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                                          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                          @KiwiMurph I wonder if the AB coaches will be at both semi finals.

                                          different watching players on tv vs at the ground IMO.

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