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All Blacks 2024

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  • M Mr Fish

    My updated barometer...

    Hookers
    Codie Taylor - 100%
    Samisoni Taukei'aho - 100% (if fit)
    Asafo Aumua - 100%
    Ricky Riccitelli - 50% (new)
    George Bell - 50% (new)

    Props
    Ethan de Groot - 100%
    Tyrel Lomax - 100%
    Fletcher Newell - 100%
    Tamaiti Williams - 80%
    Ofa Tu'ungafasi - 60%
    Xaver Numia - 50%
    George Bower - 50%
    George Dyer - 10%

    Locks
    Scott Barrett - 100%
    Tupou Vaa'i - 100%
    Quinten Strange - 70% (down)
    Sam Darry - 50%
    Isaia Walker-Leawere - 50% (up)
    Naitoa Ah Kuoi - 20% (down)
    Jamie Hannah - 10% (down)

    Loose forwards
    Ardie Savea - 100%
    Dalton Papali'i - 100%
    Samipeni Finau - 60% (down)
    Ethan Blackadder - 50% (down)
    Christian Lio-Willie - 50%
    Peter Lakai - 50%
    Luke Jacobson - 50% (up)
    Hoskins Sotutu - 40% (down)
    Wallace Sititi - 30% (new)
    Brayden Iose - 20% (down)

    Halfbacks
    Finlay Christie - 80%
    TJ Perenara - 80%
    Cortez Ratima - 80% (up)
    Taufa Funaki - 30% (down)
    Folau Fakatava - 20% (down)
    Noah Hotham - 10% (down)

    First fives
    Damian McKenzie - 100%
    Beauden Barrett - 100%
    Harry Plummer - 60% (up)
    Cam Millar - 10%

    Midfield
    Jordie Barrett - 100%
    Anton Lienert-Brown - 100%
    Rieko Ioane - 100%
    Billy Proctor - 60% (down)
    David Havili - 25% (up)
    Quinn Tupaea - 10%
    Rameka Poihipi - 5%

    Outside backs
    Mark Tele'a - 100%
    Sevu Reece - 90% (down)
    Ruben Love - 80% (down)
    Caleb Clarke - 80%
    Emoni Narawa - 70% (up)
    Etene Nanai-Seturo - 10%

    Props/loose forwards comes down to which position they select six players in. Thinking like loose forward at the moment, given so many guys are putting their hands up. Someone like Finau could also double as a lock selection.

    Sititi obviously played well this weekend but is he a better option than Sotutu? They're remarkably similar players - there might only be room for one.

    Feels likely we'll see Perenara, Christie and Ratima as the halves. Roigard comes in for one of Perenara or Christie when he's fit and then ideally one of the other options will get a full run starting in Super Rugby next year.

    Outside backs is tough. Reece, Tele'a, Clarke and Narawa all justify selection as wings. Do you select all four and go for just two first five options (Barrett and McKenzie) or bring someone like Plummer in? Maybe a straight shoot-out between Plummer and Love for a spot.

    Proctor has done enough all season to justify selection as the fourth midfielder but was struggling towards the end of the game.

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    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

    Proctor has done enough all season to justify selection as the fourth midfielder but was struggling towards the end of the game

    The semi?

    I thought he was one of the best Canes in the semi. Although he was a bit hurt towards the end

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      I hear the plan is to bring some younger players in to camp to train at times looking to future selections, keeping them up to speed.
      A lot like the Crusaders did under Razor.

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      • ChrisC Chris

        I hear the plan is to bring some younger players in to camp to train at times looking to future selections, keeping them up to speed.
        A lot like the Crusaders did under Razor.

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        @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

        I hear the plan is to bring some younger players in to camp to train at times looking to future selections, keeping them up to speed.
        A lot like the Crusaders did under Razor.

        Jeez that's not been done before haha

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        • M Machpants

          @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          I hear the plan is to bring some younger players in to camp to train at times looking to future selections, keeping them up to speed.
          A lot like the Crusaders did under Razor.

          Jeez that's not been done before haha

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          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

          I hear the plan is to bring some younger players in to camp to train at times looking to future selections, keeping them up to speed.
          A lot like the Crusaders did under Razor.

          Jeez that's not been done before haha

          Of course it has just mentioned it is what Razor usually does with his teams.🙄

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          • ChrisC Chris

            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            I hear the plan is to bring some younger players in to camp to train at times looking to future selections, keeping them up to speed.
            A lot like the Crusaders did under Razor.

            Jeez that's not been done before haha

            Of course it has just mentioned it is what Razor usually does with his teams.🙄

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            @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

            I hear the plan is to bring some younger players in to camp to train at times looking to future selections, keeping them up to speed.
            A lot like the Crusaders did under Razor.

            Jeez that's not been done before haha

            Of course it has just mentioned it is what Razor usually does with his teams.🙄

            Just joshing, Mrs Vyvyan

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            • ChrisC Chris

              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              I hear the plan is to bring some younger players in to camp to train at times looking to future selections, keeping them up to speed.
              A lot like the Crusaders did under Razor.

              Jeez that's not been done before haha

              Of course it has just mentioned it is what Razor usually does with his teams.🙄

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              @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @Machpants said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              @Chris said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

              I hear the plan is to bring some younger players in to camp to train at times looking to future selections, keeping them up to speed.
              A lot like the Crusaders did under Razor.

              Jeez that's not been done before haha

              Of course it has just mentioned it is what Razor usually does with his teams.🙄

              And every other super rugby team but I get your point haha

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                From the NZH

                Initial reports from coach Clayton McMillan weren’t optimistic immediately after the game, and that tone stayed the same on Sunday afternoon as he confirmed the 30-test All Black had sustained an Achilles injury.
                
                “It looks like it’s going to be pretty serious, which is unfortunate not just for us but for him and probably his All Blacks prospects for the immediate future,” McMillan told Newstalk ZB’s Jason Pine.
                

                Most people have been guessing the same 3 hookers. Who should come in assuming ST is out?

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                  No hobbits at hooker.

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                    We're lucky to have Taylor and Aumua come good

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                    • DuluthD Duluth

                      From the NZH

                      Initial reports from coach Clayton McMillan weren’t optimistic immediately after the game, and that tone stayed the same on Sunday afternoon as he confirmed the 30-test All Black had sustained an Achilles injury.
                      
                      “It looks like it’s going to be pretty serious, which is unfortunate not just for us but for him and probably his All Blacks prospects for the immediate future,” McMillan told Newstalk ZB’s Jason Pine.
                      

                      Most people have been guessing the same 3 hookers. Who should come in assuming ST is out?

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                      @Duluth Ricky Riccitelli or George Bell. I'd lean towards picking RR.

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                        @Duluth Ricky Riccitelli or George Bell. I'd lean towards picking RR.

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                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                        George Bell

                        It’s good bias test for the new coach. The worst throwing hooker whose contact work was abysmal.

                        Do performances matter?

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                          Beauden Barrett played his first game of club rugby in 14 years for Coastal. Does anyone know if he came on to play First Five or Fullback?

                          https://sportsnewstaranaki.co.nz/news-article?id=1755

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                            No hobbits at hooker.

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                            @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                            No hobbits at hooker.

                            I assume that Thompson is leaving? Or injured? Is that why we haven't seen him for the Chiefs?

                            I thought this would be his year, but it's flown by and he's been nowhere.

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                              @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                              No hobbits at hooker.

                              I assume that Thompson is leaving? Or injured? Is that why we haven't seen him for the Chiefs?

                              I thought this would be his year, but it's flown by and he's been nowhere.

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                              @gt12

                              There was a rumour he’s in the nrl next year. 6 games for the Chiefs this year. All off the bench

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                                @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                No hobbits at hooker.

                                I assume that Thompson is leaving? Or injured? Is that why we haven't seen him for the Chiefs?

                                I thought this would be his year, but it's flown by and he's been nowhere.

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                                @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                I assume that Thompson is leaving? Or injured? Is that why we haven't seen him for the Chiefs?

                                I've no idea if the NRL rumours are true, but yeah, he hasn't played much. Thompson will be in the 23 next week and in the Māori squad too (with Eklund).

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                                • sparkyS sparky

                                  Beauden Barrett played his first game of club rugby in 14 years for Coastal. Does anyone know if he came on to play First Five or Fullback?

                                  https://sportsnewstaranaki.co.nz/news-article?id=1755

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                                  @sparky said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                  Beauden Barrett played his first game of club rugby in 14 years for Coastal. Does anyone know if he came on to play First Five or Fullback?

                                  https://sportsnewstaranaki.co.nz/news-article?id=1755

                                  Played ten in Japan, mostly, as far as I can gather

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                                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    I assume that Thompson is leaving? Or injured? Is that why we haven't seen him for the Chiefs?

                                    I've no idea if the NRL rumours are true, but yeah, he hasn't played much. Thompson will be in the 23 next week and in the Māori squad too (with Eklund).

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                                    @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                    I assume that Thompson is leaving? Or injured? Is that why we haven't seen him for the Chiefs?

                                    I've no idea if the NRL rumours are true, but yeah, he hasn't played much. Thompson will be in the 23 next week and in the Māori squad too (with Eklund).

                                    I find it interesting because he has so much more upside than Slater.

                                    I know Thompson also has issues with throwing but he is a much bigger body.

                                    It's a strange one to me.

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                                    • gt12G gt12

                                      @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      I assume that Thompson is leaving? Or injured? Is that why we haven't seen him for the Chiefs?

                                      I've no idea if the NRL rumours are true, but yeah, he hasn't played much. Thompson will be in the 23 next week and in the Māori squad too (with Eklund).

                                      I find it interesting because he has so much more upside than Slater.

                                      I know Thompson also has issues with throwing but he is a much bigger body.

                                      It's a strange one to me.

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                                      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                      I find it interesting because he has so much more upside than Slater.

                                      I know Thompson also has issues with throwing but he is a much bigger body.

                                      It's a strange one to me.

                                      Agree. I'm puzzled as well. Slater has throwing issues too - the Chiefs didn't win any of his first 3 lineout throws.

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        No hobbits at hooker.

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                                        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024 - looking forward:

                                        No hobbits at hooker.

                                        Beaten to the punch! 🙂

                                        I was waiting to write that if you wanted someone to take a ring to Mordor, Ricky would be the first man on your list....

                                        TBH he may well be the best option - at least he can do his core roles effectively.

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                                          So RR, Thompson and the guy that has had opportunities handed too him but wasn’t able to perform

                                          There must be other possibilities? The better Bell?

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