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Name Your AB Team

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  • KiwiMurphK Offline
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    KiwiMurph
    wrote on last edited by
    #270

    If the rumoured squad is true it's basically what you would do if you named a squad without having to make a tough decision.

    He refuses to select a 4th lock

    He refuses to drop a winger of the 4

    He refuses to name a captain

    He refuses to drop a high profile Crusader

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

      @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

      @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

      @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

      @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

      Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

      He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

      I disagree.
      Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
      It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

      It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

      Wrong.
      Razor selects the loose forwards.
      Ryan the tight 5.

      OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

      FrankF Offline
      FrankF Offline
      Frank
      wrote on last edited by
      #271

      @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

      @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

      @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

      @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

      @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

      @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

      Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

      He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

      I disagree.
      Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
      It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

      It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

      Wrong.
      Razor selects the loose forwards.
      Ryan the tight 5.

      OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

      Haha "Okay fine"
      Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

      KiwiMurphK 1 Reply Last reply
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      • FrankF Frank

        @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

        @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

        @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

        Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

        He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

        I disagree.
        Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
        It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

        It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

        Wrong.
        Razor selects the loose forwards.
        Ryan the tight 5.

        OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

        Haha "Okay fine"
        Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

        KiwiMurphK Offline
        KiwiMurphK Offline
        KiwiMurph
        wrote on last edited by KiwiMurph
        #272

        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

        @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

        @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

        @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

        Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

        He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

        I disagree.
        Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
        It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

        It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

        Wrong.
        Razor selects the loose forwards.
        Ryan the tight 5.

        OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

        Haha "Okay fine"
        Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

        Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

        I'm not outraged by the way - I feel sorry for Sotutu but I can understand the logic of him not being selected.

        Some of the other rumoured selections (Havili and Bell).... not so much

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

          @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

          @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

          @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

          @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

          @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

          @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

          Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

          He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

          I disagree.
          Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
          It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

          It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

          Wrong.
          Razor selects the loose forwards.
          Ryan the tight 5.

          OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

          Haha "Okay fine"
          Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

          Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

          I'm not outraged by the way - I feel sorry for Sotutu but I can understand the logic of him not being selected.

          Some of the other rumoured selections (Havili and Bell).... not so much

          FrankF Offline
          FrankF Offline
          Frank
          wrote on last edited by Frank
          #273

          @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

          @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

          @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

          @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

          @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

          @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

          @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

          @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

          Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

          He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

          I disagree.
          Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
          It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

          It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

          Wrong.
          Razor selects the loose forwards.
          Ryan the tight 5.

          OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

          Haha "Okay fine"
          Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

          Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

          You have no idea whether this is true or not.

          Fact is - Foster, Schmidt and Ryan didn't want him.
          And now it appears - Robertson, Ryan, Hansen and Macdonald don't want him either.

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          • FrankF Frank

            @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

            @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

            @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

            @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

            Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

            He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

            I disagree.
            Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
            It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

            It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

            Wrong.
            Razor selects the loose forwards.
            Ryan the tight 5.

            OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

            Haha "Okay fine"
            Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

            Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

            You have no idea whether this is true or not.

            Fact is - Foster, Schmidt and Ryan didn't want him.
            And now it appears - Robertson, Ryan, Hansen and Macdonald don't want him either.

            KiwiMurphK Offline
            KiwiMurphK Offline
            KiwiMurph
            wrote on last edited by
            #274

            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

            @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

            @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

            @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

            @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

            Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

            He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

            I disagree.
            Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
            It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

            It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

            Wrong.
            Razor selects the loose forwards.
            Ryan the tight 5.

            OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

            Haha "Okay fine"
            Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

            Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

            You have no idea whether this is true or not.
            And you are ignoring the other selectors in both groups.

            Well Foster & co picked Sotutu in multiple squads before Ryan showed up so.....

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            • FrankF Frank

              @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

              @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

              @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

              @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

              @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

              @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

              @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

              @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

              Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

              He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

              I disagree.
              Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
              It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

              It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

              Wrong.
              Razor selects the loose forwards.
              Ryan the tight 5.

              OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

              Haha "Okay fine"
              Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

              Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

              You have no idea whether this is true or not.

              Fact is - Foster, Schmidt and Ryan didn't want him.
              And now it appears - Robertson, Ryan, Hansen and Macdonald don't want him either.

              Victor MeldrewV Offline
              Victor MeldrewV Offline
              Victor Meldrew
              wrote on last edited by
              #275

              @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

              @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

              @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

              @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

              @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

              @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

              @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

              @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

              @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

              Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

              He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

              I disagree.
              Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
              It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

              It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

              Wrong.
              Razor selects the loose forwards.
              Ryan the tight 5.

              OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

              Haha "Okay fine"
              Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

              Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

              You have no idea whether this is true or not.
              And you are ignoring the other selectors in both groups.

              We need a Tight 5/Loose 3 coordination coach. The coaching team is clearly under-resourced.

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              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

                He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

                I disagree.
                Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
                It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

                It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

                Wrong.
                Razor selects the loose forwards.
                Ryan the tight 5.

                OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

                Haha "Okay fine"
                Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

                Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

                You have no idea whether this is true or not.
                And you are ignoring the other selectors in both groups.

                Well Foster & co picked Sotutu in multiple squads before Ryan showed up so.....

                FrankF Offline
                FrankF Offline
                Frank
                wrote on last edited by
                #276

                @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

                He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

                I disagree.
                Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
                It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

                It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

                Wrong.
                Razor selects the loose forwards.
                Ryan the tight 5.

                OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

                Haha "Okay fine"
                Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

                Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

                You have no idea whether this is true or not.
                And you are ignoring the other selectors in both groups.

                Well Foster & co picked Sotutu in multiple squads before Ryan showed up so.....

                And look how that went..................

                KiwiMurphK 1 Reply Last reply
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                • FrankF Frank

                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                  Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

                  He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

                  I disagree.
                  Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
                  It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

                  It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

                  Wrong.
                  Razor selects the loose forwards.
                  Ryan the tight 5.

                  OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

                  Haha "Okay fine"
                  Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

                  Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

                  You have no idea whether this is true or not.

                  Fact is - Foster, Schmidt and Ryan didn't want him.
                  And now it appears - Robertson, Ryan, Hansen and Macdonald don't want him either.

                  KiwiMurphK Offline
                  KiwiMurphK Offline
                  KiwiMurph
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #277

                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                  Fact is - Foster, Schmidt and Ryan didn't want him.
                  And now it appears - Robertson, Ryan, Hansen and Macdonald (and Wayne Smith) don't want him with either.

                  Hold on you said Razor selects the loosies. Now you've moved the goal posts. Nice one.

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                  • FrankF Frank

                    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

                    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

                    I disagree.
                    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
                    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

                    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

                    Wrong.
                    Razor selects the loose forwards.
                    Ryan the tight 5.

                    OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

                    Haha "Okay fine"
                    Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

                    Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

                    You have no idea whether this is true or not.
                    And you are ignoring the other selectors in both groups.

                    Well Foster & co picked Sotutu in multiple squads before Ryan showed up so.....

                    And look how that went..................

                    KiwiMurphK Offline
                    KiwiMurphK Offline
                    KiwiMurph
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #278

                    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

                    @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                    Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

                    He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

                    I disagree.
                    Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
                    It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

                    It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

                    Wrong.
                    Razor selects the loose forwards.
                    Ryan the tight 5.

                    OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

                    Haha "Okay fine"
                    Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

                    Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

                    You have no idea whether this is true or not.
                    And you are ignoring the other selectors in both groups.

                    Well Foster & co picked Sotutu in multiple squads before Ryan showed up so.....

                    And look how that went..................

                    As I said I can understand the logic of no selecting him.

                    My point was that saying two sets of coaching groups not selecting him is disenguous

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                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                      @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                      Fact is - Foster, Schmidt and Ryan didn't want him.
                      And now it appears - Robertson, Ryan, Hansen and Macdonald (and Wayne Smith) don't want him with either.

                      Hold on you said Razor selects the loosies. Now you've moved the goal posts. Nice one.

                      FrankF Offline
                      FrankF Offline
                      Frank
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #279

                      @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                      @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                      Fact is - Foster, Schmidt and Ryan didn't want him.
                      And now it appears - Robertson, Ryan, Hansen and Macdonald (and Wayne Smith) don't want him with either.

                      Hold on you said Razor selects the loosies. Now you've moved the goal posts. Nice one.

                      He does.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                        Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

                        He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

                        I disagree.
                        Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
                        It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

                        It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

                        Wrong.
                        Razor selects the loose forwards.
                        Ryan the tight 5.

                        OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

                        Haha "Okay fine"
                        Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

                        Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

                        You have no idea whether this is true or not.
                        And you are ignoring the other selectors in both groups.

                        Well Foster & co picked Sotutu in multiple squads before Ryan showed up so.....

                        And look how that went..................

                        As I said I can understand the logic of no selecting him.

                        My point was that saying two sets of coaching groups not selecting him is disenguous

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                        FrankF Offline
                        Frank
                        wrote on last edited by Frank
                        #280

                        @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

                        @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                        Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

                        He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

                        I disagree.
                        Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
                        It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

                        It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

                        Wrong.
                        Razor selects the loose forwards.
                        Ryan the tight 5.

                        OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

                        Haha "Okay fine"
                        Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

                        Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

                        You have no idea whether this is true or not.
                        And you are ignoring the other selectors in both groups.

                        Well Foster & co picked Sotutu in multiple squads before Ryan showed up so.....

                        And look how that went..................

                        As I said I can understand the logic of no selecting him.

                        My point was that saying two sets of coaching groups not selecting him is disenguous

                        For you it is because you think Razor doesn't have independent thinking seprate from Ryan.
                        Secondly, the last coaching group did not give exclusive power to Ryan to NOT select Sotutu. Foster had a big say and also rejected him.

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                        • Victor MeldrewV Offline
                          Victor MeldrewV Offline
                          Victor Meldrew
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #281

                          At the end of the day, it comes down to Ardie v Hoskins and it would be a big call not to have Ardie in the starting XV.

                          So the question is whether Hoskins is in the 23 and covers 6 or replaces Ardie who moves to 7 ?

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                          • FrankF Frank

                            @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                            Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

                            He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

                            I disagree.
                            Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
                            It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

                            It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

                            Wrong.
                            Razor selects the loose forwards.
                            Ryan the tight 5.

                            OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

                            Haha "Okay fine"
                            Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

                            Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

                            You have no idea whether this is true or not.
                            And you are ignoring the other selectors in both groups.

                            Well Foster & co picked Sotutu in multiple squads before Ryan showed up so.....

                            And look how that went..................

                            As I said I can understand the logic of no selecting him.

                            My point was that saying two sets of coaching groups not selecting him is disenguous

                            For you it is because you think Razor doesn't have independent thinking seprate from Ryan.
                            Secondly, the last coaching group did not give exclusive power to Ryan to NOT select Sotutu. Foster had a big say and also rejected him.

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                            KiwiMurph
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                            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

                            @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                            Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

                            He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

                            I disagree.
                            Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
                            It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

                            It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

                            Wrong.
                            Razor selects the loose forwards.
                            Ryan the tight 5.

                            OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

                            Haha "Okay fine"
                            Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

                            Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

                            You have no idea whether this is true or not.
                            And you are ignoring the other selectors in both groups.

                            Well Foster & co picked Sotutu in multiple squads before Ryan showed up so.....

                            And look how that went..................

                            As I said I can understand the logic of no selecting him.

                            My point was that saying two sets of coaching groups not selecting him is disenguous

                            For you it is because you think Razor doesn't have independent thinking seprate from Ryan.
                            Secondly, the last coaching group did not give exclusive power to Ryan to NOT select Sotutu. Foster had a big say and also rejected him.

                            We are going around in circles here. I'll stop derailing the thread and think about the squad I'd name

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                            • GrooterG Grooter

                              @KiwiMurph I'm not sure why Bower would be there, we can carry 5 props as Ofa & Tamaiti cover both sides, definitely think we need 4 locks incase S Barrett or Patrick were to get injured in the lead upto a Test

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                              @Grooter said in Name Your AB Team:

                              @KiwiMurph I'm not sure why Bower would be there, we can carry 5 props as Ofa & Tamaiti cover both sides, definitely think we need 4 locks incase S Barrett or Patrick were to get injured in the lead upto a Test

                              Ofa and De groot have injury concerns,If they are unable to train 100% for a while it leaves 3 fit props, I can see why they have included a 6th prop in Bower.
                              Live scrummaging etc can carry on to rest the props with niggles.

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                              • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

                                He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

                                I disagree.
                                Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
                                It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

                                It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

                                Wrong.
                                Razor selects the loose forwards.
                                Ryan the tight 5.

                                OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

                                Haha "Okay fine"
                                Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

                                Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

                                You have no idea whether this is true or not.
                                And you are ignoring the other selectors in both groups.

                                Well Foster & co picked Sotutu in multiple squads before Ryan showed up so.....

                                And look how that went..................

                                As I said I can understand the logic of no selecting him.

                                My point was that saying two sets of coaching groups not selecting him is disenguous

                                For you it is because you think Razor doesn't have independent thinking seprate from Ryan.
                                Secondly, the last coaching group did not give exclusive power to Ryan to NOT select Sotutu. Foster had a big say and also rejected him.

                                We are going around in circles here. I'll stop derailing the thread and think about the squad I'd name

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                                @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

                                @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

                                He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

                                I disagree.
                                Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
                                It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

                                It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

                                Wrong.
                                Razor selects the loose forwards.
                                Ryan the tight 5.

                                OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

                                Haha "Okay fine"
                                Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

                                Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

                                You have no idea whether this is true or not.
                                And you are ignoring the other selectors in both groups.

                                Well Foster & co picked Sotutu in multiple squads before Ryan showed up so.....

                                And look how that went..................

                                As I said I can understand the logic of no selecting him.

                                My point was that saying two sets of coaching groups not selecting him is disenguous

                                For you it is because you think Razor doesn't have independent thinking seprate from Ryan.
                                Secondly, the last coaching group did not give exclusive power to Ryan to NOT select Sotutu. Foster had a big say and also rejected him.

                                We are going around in circles here. I'll stop derailing the thread and think about the squad I'd name

                                Fair enough.
                                Be sure to remember to name Sotutu.

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                                • FrankF Frank

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

                                  He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

                                  I disagree.
                                  Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
                                  It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

                                  It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

                                  Wrong.
                                  Razor selects the loose forwards.
                                  Ryan the tight 5.

                                  OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

                                  Haha "Okay fine"
                                  Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

                                  Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

                                  You have no idea whether this is true or not.
                                  And you are ignoring the other selectors in both groups.

                                  Well Foster & co picked Sotutu in multiple squads before Ryan showed up so.....

                                  And look how that went..................

                                  As I said I can understand the logic of no selecting him.

                                  My point was that saying two sets of coaching groups not selecting him is disenguous

                                  For you it is because you think Razor doesn't have independent thinking seprate from Ryan.
                                  Secondly, the last coaching group did not give exclusive power to Ryan to NOT select Sotutu. Foster had a big say and also rejected him.

                                  We are going around in circles here. I'll stop derailing the thread and think about the squad I'd name

                                  Fair enough.
                                  Be sure to remember to name Sotutu.

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                                  KiwiMurph
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                                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @Kirwan said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  @Frank said in Name Your AB Team:

                                  Sotutu's drawback is that he isn't as good as Ardie and only covers 8.

                                  He’s better than Sititi and that’s who’s rumoured to be in.

                                  I disagree.
                                  Sititi is more powerful and direct than Sotutu.
                                  It appears two different sets of coaching groups don't like him.

                                  It's the same coach that doesn't like him. Jason Ryan.

                                  Wrong.
                                  Razor selects the loose forwards.
                                  Ryan the tight 5.

                                  OK fine but I wouldn't call Ryan and Razor two sets of coaching groups. Two peas in a pod

                                  Haha "Okay fine"
                                  Don't let your outrage get in the way of the facts.

                                  Two sets of coaching groups is disingenuous when you are talking about Ryan and Razor - they are nearly joined at the hip

                                  You have no idea whether this is true or not.
                                  And you are ignoring the other selectors in both groups.

                                  Well Foster & co picked Sotutu in multiple squads before Ryan showed up so.....

                                  And look how that went..................

                                  As I said I can understand the logic of no selecting him.

                                  My point was that saying two sets of coaching groups not selecting him is disenguous

                                  For you it is because you think Razor doesn't have independent thinking seprate from Ryan.
                                  Secondly, the last coaching group did not give exclusive power to Ryan to NOT select Sotutu. Foster had a big say and also rejected him.

                                  We are going around in circles here. I'll stop derailing the thread and think about the squad I'd name

                                  Fair enough.
                                  Be sure to remember to name Sotutu.

                                  Just for a third time I'll state it:

                                  I can understand the logic of not selecting him

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                                    What's the case for not selecting Hoskins Sotutu?

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                                      What's the case for not selecting Hoskins Sotutu?

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                                      @sparky said in Name Your AB Team:

                                      What's the case for not selecting Hoskins Sotutu?

                                      Lack of flexibility. Can only play 8, so can't cover the bench if Ardie starts

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                                      • sparkyS sparky

                                        What's the case for not selecting Hoskins Sotutu?

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                                        @sparky Sititi made a few good runs in wide channels, and people get really excited about shiny new things.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          @sparky Sititi made a few good runs in wide channels, and people get really excited about shiny new things.

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                                          @Tim said in Name Your AB Team:

                                          @sparky Sititi made a few good runs in wide channels, and people get really excited about shiny new things.

                                          He also made meters in close a few times.
                                          So strong in contact.

                                          I can get people like me liking shiny new things, but you do you seriously think this coaching group is the same?

                                          I reckon they had their eye on him before the Chiefs-Canes game.

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