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All Blacks vs England 2

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  • BerniesCornerB Offline
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    BerniesCorner
    wrote on last edited by
    #1552

    Positives:
    BB
    Paps
    Scrum
    Goal kicking
    Vaai
    Perofeta
    Ball retention

    There's not a lot to moan about

    ACT CrusaderA Crazy HorseC sparkyS 3 Replies Last reply
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    • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

      Positives:
      BB
      Paps
      Scrum
      Goal kicking
      Vaai
      Perofeta
      Ball retention

      There's not a lot to moan about

      ACT CrusaderA Offline
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      ACT Crusader
      wrote on last edited by
      #1553

      @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

      Positives:
      BB
      Paps
      Scrum
      Goal kicking
      Vaai
      Perofeta
      Ball retention

      There's not a lot to moan about

      Plus a good cameo from Ratima. Something for the kid to build from.

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      • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

        @Chris-B Perofeta deserves another start

        Victor MeldrewV Away
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        Victor Meldrew
        wrote on last edited by
        #1554

        @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

        @Chris-B Perofeta deserves another start

        Agreed.

        Start Ratima and Proctor on the bench

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        • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

          Positives:
          BB
          Paps
          Scrum
          Goal kicking
          Vaai
          Perofeta
          Ball retention

          There's not a lot to moan about

          Crazy HorseC Offline
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          Crazy Horse
          wrote on last edited by
          #1555

          @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

          Positives:
          BB
          Paps
          Scrum
          Goal kicking
          Vaai
          Perofeta
          Ball retention

          There's not a lot to moan about

          I would add finding a way to win two close games on the trot against a well prepared side who would have rated their chances big time, and done while they weren't playing as well as they could. Something AB teams of the last few years struggled to do.

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          • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

            Positives:
            BB
            Paps
            Scrum
            Goal kicking
            Vaai
            Perofeta
            Ball retention

            There's not a lot to moan about

            sparkyS Offline
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            sparky
            wrote on last edited by sparky
            #1556

            @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

            Positives:
            BB
            Paps
            Scrum
            Goal kicking
            Vaai
            Perofeta
            Ball retention

            There's not a lot to moan about

            Negatives:

            Lineout
            Restarts
            Ball Carrying
            Kick Defence

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            • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

              @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              Positives:
              BB
              Paps
              Scrum
              Goal kicking
              Vaai
              Perofeta
              Ball retention

              There's not a lot to moan about

              I would add finding a way to win two close games on the trot against a well prepared side who would have rated their chances big time, and done while they weren't playing as well as they could. Something AB teams of the last few years struggled to do.

              Victor MeldrewV Away
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              Victor Meldrew
              wrote on last edited by Victor Meldrew
              #1557

              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              Positives:
              BB
              Paps
              Scrum
              Goal kicking
              Vaai
              Perofeta
              Ball retention

              There's not a lot to moan about

              I would add finding a way to win two close games on the trot against a well prepared side who would have rated their chances big time, and done while they weren't playing as well as they could. Something AB teams of the last few years struggled to do.

              I'm a bit sceptical the whole mind-set has changed and all those years of struggling to win when not playing well and under pressure have been vanquished after 3 weeks and 2 Tests together.

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              • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                I personally would distinguish between the pre and post Schmidt Ryan - Foster eras, very different coaching teams and results.

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                #1558

                @nostrildamus

                Yup, even though Foz was retained after the SA win he was effectively replaced by Schmidt.

                Foz was basically an a mascot by the time the World Cup came round

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                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                  @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                  @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                  Positives:
                  BB
                  Paps
                  Scrum
                  Goal kicking
                  Vaai
                  Perofeta
                  Ball retention

                  There's not a lot to moan about

                  I would add finding a way to win two close games on the trot against a well prepared side who would have rated their chances big time, and done while they weren't playing as well as they could. Something AB teams of the last few years struggled to do.

                  I'm a bit sceptical the whole mind-set has changed and all those years of struggling to win when not playing well and under pressure have been vanquished after 3 weeks and 2 Tests together.

                  Crazy HorseC Offline
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                  Crazy Horse
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                  #1559

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                  @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                  @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                  Positives:
                  BB
                  Paps
                  Scrum
                  Goal kicking
                  Vaai
                  Perofeta
                  Ball retention

                  There's not a lot to moan about

                  I would add finding a way to win two close games on the trot against a well prepared side who would have rated their chances big time, and done while they weren't playing as well as they could. Something AB teams of the last few years struggled to do.

                  I'm a bit sceptical the whole mind-set has changed and all those years of struggling to win when not playing well and under pressure have been vanquished after 3 weeks and 2 Tests together.

                  I didn't say anything has been vanquished...

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                  • BerniesCornerB Offline
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                    BerniesCorner
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #1560

                    Restarts will be fixed

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                    • BerniesCornerB Offline
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                      BerniesCorner
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #1561

                      6,8 is a head scratcher.

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                      • BerniesCornerB Offline
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                        BerniesCorner
                        wrote on last edited by BerniesCorner
                        #1562

                        Next game see what Sititi and Proctor can do

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                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                          @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                          @Chris-B Perofeta deserves another start

                          Agreed.

                          Start Ratima and Proctor on the bench

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                          Catogrande
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #1563

                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                          @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                          @Chris-B Perofeta deserves another start

                          Agreed.

                          Start Ratima and Proctor on the bench

                          That ginger 9 was a handbrake on your attack. I’m not sold on Perenera but the snackhead is a good few steps below. The improvement when the sub came on was obvious.

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                          • CatograndeC Catogrande

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                            @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                            @Chris-B Perofeta deserves another start

                            Agreed.

                            Start Ratima and Proctor on the bench

                            That ginger 9 was a handbrake on your attack. I’m not sold on Perenera but the snackhead is a good few steps below. The improvement when the sub came on was obvious.

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                            nostrildamus
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                            #1564

                            @Catogrande said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                            @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                            @Chris-B Perofeta deserves another start

                            Agreed.

                            Start Ratima and Proctor on the bench

                            That ginger 9 was a handbrake on your attack. I’m not sold on Perenera but the snackhead is a good few steps below. The improvement when the sub came on was obvious.

                            wil you lend us your 9 then? Much appreciated, old chap!

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                            • WingerW Offline
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                              Winger
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #1565

                              So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes

                              Perofeta has been poor
                              Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
                              Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
                              Christie is only adequate

                              Taylor is having a poor game

                              Lineout is shit

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                              • WingerW Winger

                                So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes

                                Perofeta has been poor
                                Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
                                Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
                                Christie is only adequate

                                Taylor is having a poor game

                                Lineout is shit

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                                MN5
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                                #1566

                                @Winger said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes

                                Perofeta has been poor
                                Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
                                Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
                                Christie is only adequate

                                Taylor is having a poor game

                                Lineout is shit

                                Shit, hopefully Beauden Barrett makes a big impact or we’ll be screwed.

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                                • MN5M MN5

                                  @Winger said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                  So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes

                                  Perofeta has been poor
                                  Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
                                  Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
                                  Christie is only adequate

                                  Taylor is having a poor game

                                  Lineout is shit

                                  Shit, hopefully Beauden Barrett makes a big impact or we’ll be screwed.

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                                  Winger
                                  wrote on last edited by Winger
                                  #1567

                                  @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                  @Winger said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                  So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes

                                  Perofeta has been poor
                                  Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
                                  Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
                                  Christie is only adequate

                                  Taylor is having a poor game

                                  Lineout is shit

                                  Shit, hopefully Beauden Barrett makes a big impact or we’ll be screwed.

                                  Having replacements come on for Reiko, Perofeta and Christie made the difference

                                  This backline was poorly selected. Reiko if he starts should be on the wing along with Clarke. Barrett is a good sub but who else is there for FB unless they bring Love in. Perofeta isn't the answer at FB

                                  Either ALB or Proctor at centre (both can pass). Ratima starts at HB and find another no 2 if Perenara is still injured.

                                  Taylor had a poor game. Coaches need to take him off earlier and give Aumua more game time when this occurs

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                                  • WingerW Winger

                                    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    @Winger said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes

                                    Perofeta has been poor
                                    Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
                                    Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
                                    Christie is only adequate

                                    Taylor is having a poor game

                                    Lineout is shit

                                    Shit, hopefully Beauden Barrett makes a big impact or we’ll be screwed.

                                    Having replacements come on for Reiko, Perofeta and Christie made the difference

                                    This backline was poorly selected. Reiko if he starts should be on the wing along with Clarke. Barrett is a good sub but who else is there for FB unless they bring Love in. Perofeta isn't the answer at FB

                                    Either ALB or Proctor at centre (both can pass). Ratima starts at HB and find another no 2 if Perenara is still injured.

                                    Taylor had a poor game. Coaches need to take him off earlier and give Aumua more game time when this occurs

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                                    BerniesCorner
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                                    #1568

                                    @Winger I'd prefer Reiko on the wing

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                                    • BerniesCornerB Offline
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                                      BerniesCorner
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #1569

                                      We've kinda got a bomb squad now

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                                      • chimoausC chimoaus

                                        Biggest concern is our inability to control half way. Our exits and ability to get into the opposition half has been a weakness for all ABs teams of recent years.

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                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #1570

                                        @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                        Biggest concern is our inability to control half way. Our exits and ability to get into the opposition half has been a weakness for all ABs teams of recent years.

                                        It baffles me that this remains the case when we have a 10 and 12 who both have cannons for their right legs. It's less about execution than it is about option taking.

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                                        • antipodeanA antipodean

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          @Tim said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          Not sure why Ioane is being criticized. Defended well, and consistently got over the advantage line from shit ball.

                                          The calls constantly come from people who have no idea how a centre should play. Dollars to donuts if he'd taken other options every time they complained they'd bitch about the predictable outcome too. Case in point when he made the good decision to hold the ball rather than shovel it to marked players in worse positions.

                                          I thought his defence was outstanding.

                                          Great, the modern day Justin Marshall. Pity the rest of the team has the skill to burn other teams when we can play with pace. If defence is what we want in that position, get another loose forward on.

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                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #1571

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          @Tim said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          Not sure why Ioane is being criticized. Defended well, and consistently got over the advantage line from shit ball.

                                          The calls constantly come from people who have no idea how a centre should play. Dollars to donuts if he'd taken other options every time they complained they'd bitch about the predictable outcome too. Case in point when he made the good decision to hold the ball rather than shovel it to marked players in worse positions.

                                          I thought his defence was outstanding.

                                          Great, the modern day Justin Marshall. Pity the rest of the team has the skill to burn other teams when we can play with pace. If defence is what we want in that position, get another loose forward on.

                                          At least Marshy had a running game...

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