All Blacks vs England 2
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@Chris-B Perofeta deserves another start
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Chris-B Perofeta deserves another start
Agreed.
Start Ratima and Proctor on the bench
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Positives:
BB
Paps
Scrum
Goal kicking
Vaai
Perofeta
Ball retentionThere's not a lot to moan about
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Positives:
BB
Paps
Scrum
Goal kicking
Vaai
Perofeta
Ball retentionThere's not a lot to moan about
I would add finding a way to win two close games on the trot against a well prepared side who would have rated their chances big time, and done while they weren't playing as well as they could. Something AB teams of the last few years struggled to do.
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Positives:
BB
Paps
Scrum
Goal kicking
Vaai
Perofeta
Ball retentionThere's not a lot to moan about
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Positives:
BB
Paps
Scrum
Goal kicking
Vaai
Perofeta
Ball retentionThere's not a lot to moan about
Negatives:
Lineout
Restarts
Ball Carrying
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Positives:
BB
Paps
Scrum
Goal kicking
Vaai
Perofeta
Ball retentionThere's not a lot to moan about
I would add finding a way to win two close games on the trot against a well prepared side who would have rated their chances big time, and done while they weren't playing as well as they could. Something AB teams of the last few years struggled to do.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Positives:
BB
Paps
Scrum
Goal kicking
Vaai
Perofeta
Ball retentionThere's not a lot to moan about
I would add finding a way to win two close games on the trot against a well prepared side who would have rated their chances big time, and done while they weren't playing as well as they could. Something AB teams of the last few years struggled to do.
I'm a bit sceptical the whole mind-set has changed and all those years of struggling to win when not playing well and under pressure have been vanquished after 3 weeks and 2 Tests together.
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I personally would distinguish between the pre and post Schmidt Ryan - Foster eras, very different coaching teams and results.
Yup, even though Foz was retained after the SA win he was effectively replaced by Schmidt.
Foz was basically an a mascot by the time the World Cup came round
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Positives:
BB
Paps
Scrum
Goal kicking
Vaai
Perofeta
Ball retentionThere's not a lot to moan about
I would add finding a way to win two close games on the trot against a well prepared side who would have rated their chances big time, and done while they weren't playing as well as they could. Something AB teams of the last few years struggled to do.
I'm a bit sceptical the whole mind-set has changed and all those years of struggling to win when not playing well and under pressure have been vanquished after 3 weeks and 2 Tests together.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Positives:
BB
Paps
Scrum
Goal kicking
Vaai
Perofeta
Ball retentionThere's not a lot to moan about
I would add finding a way to win two close games on the trot against a well prepared side who would have rated their chances big time, and done while they weren't playing as well as they could. Something AB teams of the last few years struggled to do.
I'm a bit sceptical the whole mind-set has changed and all those years of struggling to win when not playing well and under pressure have been vanquished after 3 weeks and 2 Tests together.
I didn't say anything has been vanquished...
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Restarts will be fixed
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6,8 is a head scratcher.
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Next game see what Sititi and Proctor can do
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@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Chris-B Perofeta deserves another start
Agreed.
Start Ratima and Proctor on the bench
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Chris-B Perofeta deserves another start
Agreed.
Start Ratima and Proctor on the bench
That ginger 9 was a handbrake on your attack. I’m not sold on Perenera but the snackhead is a good few steps below. The improvement when the sub came on was obvious.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Chris-B Perofeta deserves another start
Agreed.
Start Ratima and Proctor on the bench
That ginger 9 was a handbrake on your attack. I’m not sold on Perenera but the snackhead is a good few steps below. The improvement when the sub came on was obvious.
@Catogrande said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Chris-B Perofeta deserves another start
Agreed.
Start Ratima and Proctor on the bench
That ginger 9 was a handbrake on your attack. I’m not sold on Perenera but the snackhead is a good few steps below. The improvement when the sub came on was obvious.
wil you lend us your 9 then? Much appreciated, old chap!
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So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes
Perofeta has been poor
Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
Christie is only adequateTaylor is having a poor game
Lineout is shit
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So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes
Perofeta has been poor
Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
Christie is only adequateTaylor is having a poor game
Lineout is shit
@Winger said in All Blacks vs England 2:
So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes
Perofeta has been poor
Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
Christie is only adequateTaylor is having a poor game
Lineout is shit
Shit, hopefully Beauden Barrett makes a big impact or we’ll be screwed.
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@Winger said in All Blacks vs England 2:
So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes
Perofeta has been poor
Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
Christie is only adequateTaylor is having a poor game
Lineout is shit
Shit, hopefully Beauden Barrett makes a big impact or we’ll be screwed.
@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Winger said in All Blacks vs England 2:
So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes
Perofeta has been poor
Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
Christie is only adequateTaylor is having a poor game
Lineout is shit
Shit, hopefully Beauden Barrett makes a big impact or we’ll be screwed.
Having replacements come on for Reiko, Perofeta and Christie made the difference
This backline was poorly selected. Reiko if he starts should be on the wing along with Clarke. Barrett is a good sub but who else is there for FB unless they bring Love in. Perofeta isn't the answer at FB
Either ALB or Proctor at centre (both can pass). Ratima starts at HB and find another no 2 if Perenara is still injured.
Taylor had a poor game. Coaches need to take him off earlier and give Aumua more game time when this occurs
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@MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Winger said in All Blacks vs England 2:
So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes
Perofeta has been poor
Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
Christie is only adequateTaylor is having a poor game
Lineout is shit
Shit, hopefully Beauden Barrett makes a big impact or we’ll be screwed.
Having replacements come on for Reiko, Perofeta and Christie made the difference
This backline was poorly selected. Reiko if he starts should be on the wing along with Clarke. Barrett is a good sub but who else is there for FB unless they bring Love in. Perofeta isn't the answer at FB
Either ALB or Proctor at centre (both can pass). Ratima starts at HB and find another no 2 if Perenara is still injured.
Taylor had a poor game. Coaches need to take him off earlier and give Aumua more game time when this occurs
@Winger I'd prefer Reiko on the wing
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We've kinda got a bomb squad now
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Biggest concern is our inability to control half way. Our exits and ability to get into the opposition half has been a weakness for all ABs teams of recent years.
@chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Biggest concern is our inability to control half way. Our exits and ability to get into the opposition half has been a weakness for all ABs teams of recent years.
It baffles me that this remains the case when we have a 10 and 12 who both have cannons for their right legs. It's less about execution than it is about option taking.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Tim said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Not sure why Ioane is being criticized. Defended well, and consistently got over the advantage line from shit ball.
The calls constantly come from people who have no idea how a centre should play. Dollars to donuts if he'd taken other options every time they complained they'd bitch about the predictable outcome too. Case in point when he made the good decision to hold the ball rather than shovel it to marked players in worse positions.
I thought his defence was outstanding.
Great, the modern day Justin Marshall. Pity the rest of the team has the skill to burn other teams when we can play with pace. If defence is what we want in that position, get another loose forward on.
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@Tim said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Not sure why Ioane is being criticized. Defended well, and consistently got over the advantage line from shit ball.
The calls constantly come from people who have no idea how a centre should play. Dollars to donuts if he'd taken other options every time they complained they'd bitch about the predictable outcome too. Case in point when he made the good decision to hold the ball rather than shovel it to marked players in worse positions.
I thought his defence was outstanding.
Great, the modern day Justin Marshall. Pity the rest of the team has the skill to burn other teams when we can play with pace. If defence is what we want in that position, get another loose forward on.
At least Marshy had a running game...
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Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.
If we make the final in '27 I would not be surprised if they were our opponents.
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@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.
If we make the final in '27 I would not be surprised if they were our opponents.
@junior said in All Blacks vs England 2:
@antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:
Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.
If we make the final in '27 I would not be surprised if they were our opponents.
I would be extremely surprised, mildly surprised if they make it past the quarters.
