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All Blacks vs England 2

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  • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Positives:
    BB
    Paps
    Scrum
    Goal kicking
    Vaai
    Perofeta
    Ball retention

    There's not a lot to moan about

    I would add finding a way to win two close games on the trot against a well prepared side who would have rated their chances big time, and done while they weren't playing as well as they could. Something AB teams of the last few years struggled to do.

    I'm a bit sceptical the whole mind-set has changed and all those years of struggling to win when not playing well and under pressure have been vanquished after 3 weeks and 2 Tests together.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

    Positives:
    BB
    Paps
    Scrum
    Goal kicking
    Vaai
    Perofeta
    Ball retention

    There's not a lot to moan about

    I would add finding a way to win two close games on the trot against a well prepared side who would have rated their chances big time, and done while they weren't playing as well as they could. Something AB teams of the last few years struggled to do.

    I'm a bit sceptical the whole mind-set has changed and all those years of struggling to win when not playing well and under pressure have been vanquished after 3 weeks and 2 Tests together.

    I didn't say anything has been vanquished...

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      Restarts will be fixed

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        6,8 is a head scratcher.

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          #1562

          Next game see what Sititi and Proctor can do

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          • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

            @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

            @Chris-B Perofeta deserves another start

            Agreed.

            Start Ratima and Proctor on the bench

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            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:

            @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

            @Chris-B Perofeta deserves another start

            Agreed.

            Start Ratima and Proctor on the bench

            That ginger 9 was a handbrake on your attack. I’m not sold on Perenera but the snackhead is a good few steps below. The improvement when the sub came on was obvious.

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            • CatograndeC Catogrande

              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              @Chris-B Perofeta deserves another start

              Agreed.

              Start Ratima and Proctor on the bench

              That ginger 9 was a handbrake on your attack. I’m not sold on Perenera but the snackhead is a good few steps below. The improvement when the sub came on was obvious.

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              @Catogrande said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks vs England 2:

              @Chris-B Perofeta deserves another start

              Agreed.

              Start Ratima and Proctor on the bench

              That ginger 9 was a handbrake on your attack. I’m not sold on Perenera but the snackhead is a good few steps below. The improvement when the sub came on was obvious.

              wil you lend us your 9 then? Much appreciated, old chap!

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                #1565

                So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes

                Perofeta has been poor
                Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
                Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
                Christie is only adequate

                Taylor is having a poor game

                Lineout is shit

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                • WingerW Winger

                  So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes

                  Perofeta has been poor
                  Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
                  Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
                  Christie is only adequate

                  Taylor is having a poor game

                  Lineout is shit

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                  @Winger said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                  So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes

                  Perofeta has been poor
                  Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
                  Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
                  Christie is only adequate

                  Taylor is having a poor game

                  Lineout is shit

                  Shit, hopefully Beauden Barrett makes a big impact or we’ll be screwed.

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    @Winger said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                    So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes

                    Perofeta has been poor
                    Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
                    Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
                    Christie is only adequate

                    Taylor is having a poor game

                    Lineout is shit

                    Shit, hopefully Beauden Barrett makes a big impact or we’ll be screwed.

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                    #1567

                    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                    @Winger said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                    So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes

                    Perofeta has been poor
                    Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
                    Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
                    Christie is only adequate

                    Taylor is having a poor game

                    Lineout is shit

                    Shit, hopefully Beauden Barrett makes a big impact or we’ll be screwed.

                    Having replacements come on for Reiko, Perofeta and Christie made the difference

                    This backline was poorly selected. Reiko if he starts should be on the wing along with Clarke. Barrett is a good sub but who else is there for FB unless they bring Love in. Perofeta isn't the answer at FB

                    Either ALB or Proctor at centre (both can pass). Ratima starts at HB and find another no 2 if Perenara is still injured.

                    Taylor had a poor game. Coaches need to take him off earlier and give Aumua more game time when this occurs

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                    • WingerW Winger

                      @MN5 said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                      @Winger said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                      So far Ive watched the first 50 minutes

                      Perofeta has been poor
                      Wings only adequate. Overall the back three needs at least 2 but I would prefer changes to all three
                      Reiko isn't a centre. Time to move on
                      Christie is only adequate

                      Taylor is having a poor game

                      Lineout is shit

                      Shit, hopefully Beauden Barrett makes a big impact or we’ll be screwed.

                      Having replacements come on for Reiko, Perofeta and Christie made the difference

                      This backline was poorly selected. Reiko if he starts should be on the wing along with Clarke. Barrett is a good sub but who else is there for FB unless they bring Love in. Perofeta isn't the answer at FB

                      Either ALB or Proctor at centre (both can pass). Ratima starts at HB and find another no 2 if Perenara is still injured.

                      Taylor had a poor game. Coaches need to take him off earlier and give Aumua more game time when this occurs

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                      @Winger I'd prefer Reiko on the wing

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                        We've kinda got a bomb squad now

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                        • chimoausC chimoaus

                          Biggest concern is our inability to control half way. Our exits and ability to get into the opposition half has been a weakness for all ABs teams of recent years.

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                          @chimoaus said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                          Biggest concern is our inability to control half way. Our exits and ability to get into the opposition half has been a weakness for all ABs teams of recent years.

                          It baffles me that this remains the case when we have a 10 and 12 who both have cannons for their right legs. It's less about execution than it is about option taking.

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                          • antipodeanA antipodean

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                            @Tim said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                            Not sure why Ioane is being criticized. Defended well, and consistently got over the advantage line from shit ball.

                            The calls constantly come from people who have no idea how a centre should play. Dollars to donuts if he'd taken other options every time they complained they'd bitch about the predictable outcome too. Case in point when he made the good decision to hold the ball rather than shovel it to marked players in worse positions.

                            I thought his defence was outstanding.

                            Great, the modern day Justin Marshall. Pity the rest of the team has the skill to burn other teams when we can play with pace. If defence is what we want in that position, get another loose forward on.

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                            @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                            @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                            @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                            @Tim said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                            Not sure why Ioane is being criticized. Defended well, and consistently got over the advantage line from shit ball.

                            The calls constantly come from people who have no idea how a centre should play. Dollars to donuts if he'd taken other options every time they complained they'd bitch about the predictable outcome too. Case in point when he made the good decision to hold the ball rather than shovel it to marked players in worse positions.

                            I thought his defence was outstanding.

                            Great, the modern day Justin Marshall. Pity the rest of the team has the skill to burn other teams when we can play with pace. If defence is what we want in that position, get another loose forward on.

                            At least Marshy had a running game...

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                            • antipodeanA antipodean

                              Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.

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                              @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                              Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.

                              If we make the final in '27 I would not be surprised if they were our opponents.

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                                @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.

                                If we make the final in '27 I would not be surprised if they were our opponents.

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                                @junior said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.

                                If we make the final in '27 I would not be surprised if they were our opponents.

                                I would be extremely surprised, mildly surprised if they make it past the quarters.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @junior said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                  Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.

                                  If we make the final in '27 I would not be surprised if they were our opponents.

                                  I would be extremely surprised, mildly surprised if they make it past the quarters.

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                                  @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                  @junior said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                  @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                  Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.

                                  If we make the final in '27 I would not be surprised if they were our opponents.

                                  I would be extremely surprised, mildly surprised if they make it past the quarters.

                                  A long way ahead to be making predictions. Ever thought of writing for Ruck.com?

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                                  • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                    @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    @junior said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.

                                    If we make the final in '27 I would not be surprised if they were our opponents.

                                    I would be extremely surprised, mildly surprised if they make it past the quarters.

                                    A long way ahead to be making predictions. Ever thought of writing for Ruck.com?

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                                    Bones
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                                    @Catogrande said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    @junior said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                    Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.

                                    If we make the final in '27 I would not be surprised if they were our opponents.

                                    I would be extremely surprised, mildly surprised if they make it past the quarters.

                                    A long way ahead to be making predictions. Ever thought of writing for Ruck.com?

                                    Why, you hiring?

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @Catogrande said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      @junior said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.

                                      If we make the final in '27 I would not be surprised if they were our opponents.

                                      I would be extremely surprised, mildly surprised if they make it past the quarters.

                                      A long way ahead to be making predictions. Ever thought of writing for Ruck.com?

                                      Why, you hiring?

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                                      @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      @Catogrande said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      @junior said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                      Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.

                                      If we make the final in '27 I would not be surprised if they were our opponents.

                                      I would be extremely surprised, mildly surprised if they make it past the quarters.

                                      A long way ahead to be making predictions. Ever thought of writing for Ruck.com?

                                      Why, you hiring?

                                      Usual terms. You write whatever shit you want, we don’t fact check and you get 50% of the per hit take. We get the ad revenue. Seem fair?

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                                      • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                        @Catogrande said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                        @junior said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                        Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.

                                        If we make the final in '27 I would not be surprised if they were our opponents.

                                        I would be extremely surprised, mildly surprised if they make it past the quarters.

                                        A long way ahead to be making predictions. Ever thought of writing for Ruck.com?

                                        Why, you hiring?

                                        Usual terms. You write whatever shit you want, we don’t fact check and you get 50% of the per hit take. We get the ad revenue. Seem fair?

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                                        Bones
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                                        #1577

                                        @Catogrande said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                        @Catogrande said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                        @junior said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                        Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.

                                        If we make the final in '27 I would not be surprised if they were our opponents.

                                        I would be extremely surprised, mildly surprised if they make it past the quarters.

                                        A long way ahead to be making predictions. Ever thought of writing for Ruck.com?

                                        Why, you hiring?

                                        Usual terms. You write whatever shit you want, we don’t fact check and you get 50% of the per hit take. We get the ad revenue. Seem fair?

                                        My first article will be on the definition of prediction.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @Catogrande said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          @Catogrande said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          @Bones said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          @junior said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          @antipodean said in All Blacks vs England 2:

                                          Thanks England for a competitive series and well done Borthwick on fixing the abortion you inherited. If they keep improving (and they've got some very good talent in that team) they'll be a real threat in 27.

                                          If we make the final in '27 I would not be surprised if they were our opponents.

                                          I would be extremely surprised, mildly surprised if they make it past the quarters.

                                          A long way ahead to be making predictions. Ever thought of writing for Ruck.com?

                                          Why, you hiring?

                                          Usual terms. You write whatever shit you want, we don’t fact check and you get 50% of the per hit take. We get the ad revenue. Seem fair?

                                          My first article will be on the definition of prediction.

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                                          #1578

                                          @Bones

                                          I’m predicting it’ll be the same as your last…

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