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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    Reaping what you sow.

    Jul 8, 2024

    Tilly Loves Books sacked by Waterstones over comments about gender-critical author

    Tilly Loves Books sacked by Waterstones over comments about gender-critical author

    Book influencer Tilly Fitzgerald said she would ‘tear up’ books by Christina Dalcher who is against gender ideology

    A book influencer has been sacked by Waterstones after claiming she would enjoy “tearing up” a book by a gender-critical author, Christina Dalcher

    Tilly Fitzgerald had built up a 90,000-strong online following for her book reviews and recommendations shared under the name Tilly Loves Books. She was sacked by Waterstones after stating in an online post that she would enjoy “tearing up” and binning books by a gender-critical author Christina Dalcher

    Several hours later, after her comments had been flagged to Waterstones, Tilly posted a tearful video message in which she explained that she was “heartbroken” after being sacked by the bookshop chain.

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    Fantastic

    One of many who will die from 'lack of oxygen' as the tide goes out

    Great response from Waterstones

    Effectively it's none of your business

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    Could also go in the "Bad/Lame Jokes" thread

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  • MN5M Online
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    @Victor-Meldrew said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    Could also go in the "Bad/Lame Jokes" thread

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    What an age we live in.

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  • Victor MeldrewV Offline
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    #1081

    Not a good Olympic look, but could become one of the memories of these games.

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in Olympics Thread:

    Not a good Olympic look, but could become one of the memories of these games.

    Good on her

    Hope every other opponent does the same. Although it would be great if someone put her/him on her/his arse

    Massive asterisk against the medal

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in Olympics Thread:

    Not a good Olympic look, but could become one of the memories of these games.

    Ultimately this will be good for women's sport, as much as it's bullshit for those currently participating.

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    @antipodean said in Olympics Thread:

    Ultimately this will be good for women's sport, as much as it's bullshit for those currently participating.

    Be great to see the other female boxers refuse to compete against him and the Taiwanese bloke and ensure the whole thing is recorded as a total farce.

    But then why should they have to throw away the years of training and their lifetime ambition for this shit?

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    @Victor-Meldrew said in Olympics Thread:

    Not a good Olympic look, but could become one of the memories of these games.

    Good on that woman.

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    Actually, having read the thread on @Victor-Meldrew 's post my feelings have morphed a bit.

    Carini didn't pull out on principal. She didn't make a choice. She got smacked, and smacked hard, and pulled out as self-preservation. Should not have been put in that position.

    Poor girl.

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    So it turns out this Algerian competitor is not trans, but has XY chromosomes ...

    I'm not touching this debate again.

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    @MajorRage said in Olympics Thread:

    So it turns out this Algerian competitor is not trans, but has XY chromosomes ...

    I'm not touching this debate again.

    Not even pretending to be a woman

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  • No QuarterN Online
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    No Quarter
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    Letting males with DSD compete against biological women is just insane. When the hell will this madness end.

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    Absolutely

    She’ll never get a Damehood

    But she should

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  • No QuarterN Online
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    “I am heartbroken. I was told a lot of times that I was a warrior but I preferred to stop for my health. I have never felt a punch like this. After the second blow to the nose, I couldn’t breathe any more. I went to my coach and said ‘enough’. It could have been the match of a lifetime, but I had to preserve my life as well in that moment.”

    Males have higher bone density than females, among a host of other advantages, even with DSD as they still had elevated levels of testosterone during puberty. It's self evident that a male punching a female will do more damage than a male punching a male. In a combat sport I just cannot believe they have allowed it, the science on this and also trans women is clear and easy to understand.

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  • nzzpN Online
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    @No-Quarter said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    In a combat sport I just cannot believe they have allowed it, the science on this and also trans women is clear and easy to understand.

    this goes into the 'gnarly' camp though. This is not trans-related. This is about where the blurry line between male and female with intersex cuts off. The fighter has XY chromosomes.

    I don't have an answer for that, but it appears the IOC line (passport gender) is not the same as the combat sports governing body line.

    This sucks for basically everyone. Someone is going to lose, and it is going to be shitty

    Edit: ignore me, brainfart. XX = female, not XY.

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  • barbarianB Offline
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    Great, now we get three days of 'what is a woman' chat featuring some of the dumbest people you've ever seen voicing their opinions on boxing, a sport they have never watched.

    More than happy to sit out of it and check back in if/when you've all come to a resolution.

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  • No QuarterN Online
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    No Quarter
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    @nzzp it's not a blurry line at all. You are either male (XY) with DSD (Differences of sex development) or you are female (XX) with DSD. The males with DSD should absolutely never be competing in the women's sports categories.

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  • nzzpN Online
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    @No-Quarter right you are.

    Brain fade - I thought XY was female. Will edit post.

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