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Leon MacDonald Quits

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    Perofeta will be fuming at this news.

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    • D darylmitchell

      No, the point is Ellison is groomed to take over Crusaders in 2026, I'd rather he commit to ABs until 2027 World Cup so we're not facing more coaching changes... he is a good defense coach, highly rated - 3 titles with Crusaders as defense coach and Wellington's first title in 22 years as defence coach. Losing him from the AB setup would be a big blow. @Chris?

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      @darylmitchell said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

      No, the point is Ellison is groomed to take over Crusaders in 2026, I'd rather he commit to ABs until 2027 World Cup so we're not facing more coaching changes... he is a good defense coach, highly rated - 3 titles with Crusaders as defense coach and Wellington's first title in 22 years as defence coach. Losing him from the AB setup would be a big blow. @Chris?

      This post might bring a certain poster back from the Fern dead….

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      • canefanC canefan

        "Hey Vern, Razor here. Have you got any plans for the next couple of weeks....?"

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        @canefan said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

        "Hey Vern, Razor here. Have you got any plans for the next couple of weeks....?"

        Wouldn't the answer be something along the lines of: "not much, but you picked the wrong cattle so why bother calling me"?

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          The great thing about rugby is that you can find success with different philosophies / approaches, particularly from an attacking standpoint. And whilst the Crusaders had success back in 2017 what translated in the years thereafter was quite a different approach and there was still some success.

          I’m sure both Rangi and Razor (and the other coaches) are disappointed it didn’t work out but in an environment when every match counts and the spotlight is a thousand times brighter, there’s not really time to try and ‘work it out’.

          They are all pros and will be able to move on.

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          • canefanC canefan

            I'll give Razor credit for pulling the trigger and essentially admitting his mistake, when jobs for the lads didn't seem to be working out

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            @canefan said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

            I'll give Razor credit for pulling the trigger and essentially admitting his mistake, when jobs for the lads didn't seem to be working out

            Is that what it is though? Or do we see Holland walk when they get back from SA.... get rid of all those pesky guys that aren't his lads...

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              Prediction:

              Rangi won't be the last All Blacks assistant coach to get fired/walk this year.

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                • sparkyS sparky

                  Prediction:

                  Rangi won't be the last All Blacks assistant coach to get fired/walk this year.

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                  @sparky said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                  Prediction:

                  Rangi won't be the last All Blacks assistant coach to get fired/walk this year.

                  Hopefully Holland does aswell…. purely for the fact he’s a dilbert and isn’t good enough to be in that role.

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                    #103

                    @Daffy-Jaffy said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                    “Didn’t quite click”

                    Leon is the reason Ardie hasn’t been selected at 2nd 5. Sounds like a good enough reason to part ways.

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                      It will be interesting to see how and if the ABs' attack changes. Wonder what a Scott Hansen attack looks like.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        @W32 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                        Haven’t read the whole thread so excuse if it’s been covered, who is the defense coach? Was it McDonald ?

                        Scott Hansen I believe is defence coach

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                        @KiwiMurph said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                        @W32 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                        Haven’t read the whole thread so excuse if it’s been covered, who is the defense coach? Was it McDonald ?

                        Scott Hansen I believe is defence coach

                        excellent. razor has fired the wrong coach

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                          Too many Crusaders, not enough horses.

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                            I wonder what the tipping point was?

                            Was it when Leon said Breaking wasn't a proper Olympic sport?

                            Or was it when he said Surfing shouldn't be in the Games either?

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                            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                              The timing is a bit weird.

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                              @nostrildamus said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                              The timing is a bit weird.

                              Early disagreement on backline for Boks?

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                                Genuinely a concern that the coaching group is falling apart after only 5 tests. They have worked together before and I would hope of known what was expected promised etc. Not sure this is what we were sold.

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                                  At the end of the day Razor is the boss and all the other guys need to understand the dynamic. If they weren't on the same page it was a good leadership decision to move on

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                                    McDonald has been a head coach since the last time they worked, so that can change a lot of a dynamic. I think this is totally fine, in a high performance environment you need focus and clarity - if it is not working then you need someone to change or move on.

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                                    • Landers92L Landers92

                                      Anyone remember a few weeks ago what I was saying about this Leon McDonald situation? I can’t remember what thread it was in, maybe AB’s 2024. I wasn’t just saying stuff for the sake of it after all… 👀

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                                      @Landers92 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                                      Anyone remember a few weeks ago what I was saying about this Leon McDonald situation? I can’t remember what thread it was in, maybe AB’s 2024. I wasn’t just saying stuff for the sake of it after all… 👀

                                      Pre or post Poms?

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                                      • sparkyS sparky

                                        I wonder what the tipping point was?

                                        Was it when Leon said Breaking wasn't a proper Olympic sport?

                                        Or was it when he said Surfing shouldn't be in the Games either?

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                                        @sparky said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                                        I wonder what the tipping point was?

                                        Was it when Leon said Breaking wasn't a proper Olympic sport?

                                        Or was it when he said Surfing shouldn't be in the Games either?

                                        Comedy Gold

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                                          Without really knowing why MacDonald has left, I am not too surprised apart from how early a change has occurred. From memory it seemed Razor wasn't shy about changing up his assistants when at the Saders.

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