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Leon MacDonald Quits

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  • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

    @W32 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    Haven’t read the whole thread so excuse if it’s been covered, who is the defense coach? Was it McDonald ?

    Scott Hansen I believe is defence coach

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    @KiwiMurph said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    @W32 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

    Haven’t read the whole thread so excuse if it’s been covered, who is the defense coach? Was it McDonald ?

    Scott Hansen I believe is defence coach

    excellent. razor has fired the wrong coach

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      Too many Crusaders, not enough horses.

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        I wonder what the tipping point was?

        Was it when Leon said Breaking wasn't a proper Olympic sport?

        Or was it when he said Surfing shouldn't be in the Games either?

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        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

          The timing is a bit weird.

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          pakman
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          @nostrildamus said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

          The timing is a bit weird.

          Early disagreement on backline for Boks?

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            Genuinely a concern that the coaching group is falling apart after only 5 tests. They have worked together before and I would hope of known what was expected promised etc. Not sure this is what we were sold.

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              At the end of the day Razor is the boss and all the other guys need to understand the dynamic. If they weren't on the same page it was a good leadership decision to move on

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                Machpants
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                McDonald has been a head coach since the last time they worked, so that can change a lot of a dynamic. I think this is totally fine, in a high performance environment you need focus and clarity - if it is not working then you need someone to change or move on.

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                • Landers92L Landers92

                  Anyone remember a few weeks ago what I was saying about this Leon McDonald situation? I can’t remember what thread it was in, maybe AB’s 2024. I wasn’t just saying stuff for the sake of it after all… 👀

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                  @Landers92 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                  Anyone remember a few weeks ago what I was saying about this Leon McDonald situation? I can’t remember what thread it was in, maybe AB’s 2024. I wasn’t just saying stuff for the sake of it after all… 👀

                  Pre or post Poms?

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    I wonder what the tipping point was?

                    Was it when Leon said Breaking wasn't a proper Olympic sport?

                    Or was it when he said Surfing shouldn't be in the Games either?

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                    MiketheSnow
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                    @sparky said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                    I wonder what the tipping point was?

                    Was it when Leon said Breaking wasn't a proper Olympic sport?

                    Or was it when he said Surfing shouldn't be in the Games either?

                    Comedy Gold

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                      Without really knowing why MacDonald has left, I am not too surprised apart from how early a change has occurred. From memory it seemed Razor wasn't shy about changing up his assistants when at the Saders.

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                      • P pakman

                        @nostrildamus said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                        The timing is a bit weird.

                        Early disagreement on backline for Boks?

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                        darylmitchell
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                        @Machpants said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                        McDonald has been a head coach since the last time they worked, so that can change a lot of a dynamic.

                        that's exactly it according to Razor, did you just read the article?

                        He said he and MacDonald “hadn’t foreseen’’ any potential differences before the coaching team was formed, otherwise “we wouldn’t probably have gone down that line”.

                        “But as we got into the coaching we realised our philosophies and just the way we click and see the game is a little bit different now.

                        “Obviously being a head coach for a long period of time, you see things differently.”

                        “As we started getting hands-on, things have just differed."

                        understandable, 8 years since they last coached together.

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                          Machpants
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                          You insult me, Sir! I, a ferner, read the article? You with withdraw that slanderous accusation or you will be hearing from my second!

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                            @Machpants said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                            McDonald has been a head coach since the last time they worked, so that can change a lot of a dynamic.

                            that's exactly it according to Razor, did you just read the article?

                            He said he and MacDonald “hadn’t foreseen’’ any potential differences before the coaching team was formed, otherwise “we wouldn’t probably have gone down that line”.

                            “But as we got into the coaching we realised our philosophies and just the way we click and see the game is a little bit different now.

                            “Obviously being a head coach for a long period of time, you see things differently.”

                            “As we started getting hands-on, things have just differed."

                            understandable, 8 years since they last coached together.

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                            MN5
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                            @darylmitchell said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                            @Machpants said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                            McDonald has been a head coach since the last time they worked, so that can change a lot of a dynamic.

                            that's exactly it according to Razor, did you just read the article?

                            He said he and MacDonald “hadn’t foreseen’’ any potential differences before the coaching team was formed, otherwise “we wouldn’t probably have gone down that line”.

                            “But as we got into the coaching we realised our philosophies and just the way we click and see the game is a little bit different now.

                            “Obviously being a head coach for a long period of time, you see things differently.”

                            “As we started getting hands-on, things have just differed."

                            understandable, 8 years since they last coached together.

                            Sounds like me before I got married

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                            • Dan54D Dan54

                              Genuinely a concern that the coaching group is falling apart after only 5 tests. They have worked together before and I would hope of known what was expected promised etc. Not sure this is what we were sold.

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                              Frank
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                              @Dan54 said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                              Genuinely a concern that the coaching group is falling apart after only 5 tests. They have worked together before and I would hope of known what was expected promised etc. Not sure this is what we were sold.

                              Are my eyes deceiving me or are you questioning the coaches?

                              Is it the status quo actually changing that makes you uncomfortable?

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                              • sparkyS sparky

                                Prediction:

                                Rangi won't be the last All Blacks assistant coach to get fired/walk this year.

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                                pakman
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                                @sparky said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                                Prediction:

                                Rangi won't be the last All Blacks assistant coach to get fired/walk this year.

                                How many assistant coach’s are there left: two?

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                                  Bones
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                                  Dan's been hacked, classic boomer

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                                  • D darylmitchell

                                    @Machpants said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                                    McDonald has been a head coach since the last time they worked, so that can change a lot of a dynamic.

                                    that's exactly it according to Razor, did you just read the article?

                                    He said he and MacDonald “hadn’t foreseen’’ any potential differences before the coaching team was formed, otherwise “we wouldn’t probably have gone down that line”.

                                    “But as we got into the coaching we realised our philosophies and just the way we click and see the game is a little bit different now.

                                    “Obviously being a head coach for a long period of time, you see things differently.”

                                    “As we started getting hands-on, things have just differed."

                                    understandable, 8 years since they last coached together.

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                                    pakman
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                                    @darylmitchell said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                                    @Machpants said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                                    McDonald has been a head coach since the last time they worked, so that can change a lot of a dynamic.

                                    that's exactly it according to Razor, did you just read the article?

                                    He said he and MacDonald “hadn’t foreseen’’ any potential differences before the coaching team was formed, otherwise “we wouldn’t probably have gone down that line”.

                                    “But as we got into the coaching we realised our philosophies and just the way we click and see the game is a little bit different now.

                                    “Obviously being a head coach for a long period of time, you see things differently.”

                                    “As we started getting hands-on, things have just differed."

                                    understandable, 8 years since they last coached together.

                                    Leon was on standby for the gig as far back as April last year.

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                                      @darylmitchell said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                                      @Machpants said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                                      McDonald has been a head coach since the last time they worked, so that can change a lot of a dynamic.

                                      that's exactly it according to Razor, did you just read the article?

                                      He said he and MacDonald “hadn’t foreseen’’ any potential differences before the coaching team was formed, otherwise “we wouldn’t probably have gone down that line”.

                                      “But as we got into the coaching we realised our philosophies and just the way we click and see the game is a little bit different now.

                                      “Obviously being a head coach for a long period of time, you see things differently.”

                                      “As we started getting hands-on, things have just differed."

                                      understandable, 8 years since they last coached together.

                                      Leon was on standby for the gig as far back as April last year.

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                                      darylmitchell
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                                      @pakman said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                                      @darylmitchell said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                                      @Machpants said in Leon MacDonald Quits:

                                      McDonald has been a head coach since the last time they worked, so that can change a lot of a dynamic.

                                      that's exactly it according to Razor, did you just read the article?

                                      He said he and MacDonald “hadn’t foreseen’’ any potential differences before the coaching team was formed, otherwise “we wouldn’t probably have gone down that line”.

                                      “But as we got into the coaching we realised our philosophies and just the way we click and see the game is a little bit different now.

                                      “Obviously being a head coach for a long period of time, you see things differently.”

                                      “As we started getting hands-on, things have just differed."

                                      understandable, 8 years since they last coached together.

                                      Leon was on standby for the gig as far back as April last year.

                                      He also agreed to assistant role under Jamie Joseph last year according to NZ Herald, was going to be coaching the AB backs with Brown on attack if Razor didn't get the job in 2023, now Leon's probably lamenting Joseph not getting the job over Razor?

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                                        Interesting that Joe Schmidt didn’t fancy working for Raz.

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                                          Jet
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                                          Regardless of who is in the right , I love the ruthlessness.

                                          This is what we have been lacking since 2015.

                                          If It’s not working. Something has to change.

                                          As I always say…

                                          The crest on the front is bigger than any name on the back.

                                          Now move Will Jordan to fullback post haste you floppy haired surf nonce.

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