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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    @antipodean said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @No-Quarter said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    Rowling is right to just call these people what they are now - cheats. A 45 year old bloke deciding to compete in the women's event, meaning women miss out on spots, is just straight up cheating, and ignorance of the advantages they have is not a good enough excuse. The Olympic committee is just the absolute worst for allowing this shit.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/350402872/tearful-transgender-athlete-valentina-petrillo-defiant-amid-paralympics-scandal

    And the disability is "sight impairment".

    Massive impairment of morals

    Fuck him

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    @BlueWall_noReds said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    Interesting...

    Sep 1, 2024

    Record number of people apply to change gender, figures show

    Record number of people apply to change gender, figures show

    Experts say the rise has been driven by millennials and Gen Z, who made the majority of applications

    So the number of freaks are growing? Facts confirming perception.

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    Definitely not a social contagion though…

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    @MiketheSnow said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @Catogrande said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @MiketheSnow said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    Could / Should be a landmark case

    From that vid it looks as though there may be a bit more to the story. Is he simply refusing to condone and teach the trans ideology or is he actively demonising both the ideology and people who are trans? Going by that screeching woman supporting him it wouldn’t surprise me if it was the latter.

    Ironically she looks a bit like a tranny herself.

    Either way, he should be able to express his own opinions to give a balanced case for or against transitioning

    Best scenario would be to leave this insidious indoctrination out of the classroom all together

    You'll not find me disagreeing on either count.

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    I'm at the point now if a political party ran purely on a platform against this insanity they would have my vote. Especially if it included severe criminal repercusions against these 'professionals' butchering children. How on earth has the world gotten into this state? I see NZ have again delayed a report on puberty blockers again, I wonder what that means?

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    @Rembrandt said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    , I wonder what that means?

    You know what that means.

    If the facts (aka science) doesn't agree with ideology, then the science is wrong. So you get into cognitivie dissonance with the shared worldview

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    @MiketheSnow said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @Catogrande said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @MiketheSnow said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    Could / Should be a landmark case

    From that vid it looks as though there may be a bit more to the story. Is he simply refusing to condone and teach the trans ideology or is he actively demonising both the ideology and people who are trans? Going by that screeching woman supporting him it wouldn’t surprise me if it was the latter.

    Ironically she looks a bit like a tranny herself.

    Either way, he should be able to express his own opinions to give a balanced case for or against transitioning

    Best scenario would be to leave this insidious indoctrination out of the classroom all together

    As I thought, more than meets the eye. That arrest was made September 2023 following a previous arrest the year before. The arrest was not for refusing to use preferred pronouns or speaking against trans-ing (is that a word?) but was for contempt of a court order banning him from going to the school from which he was suspended on paid leave. Now we can all argue that his initial position was reasonable ( and I would argue that), but the school have their view point and went through the proper channels all the way through..

    NB he has recently been released.. We'll see what the next steps are.

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    @nzzp said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @Rembrandt said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    , I wonder what that means?

    You know what that means.

    If the facts (aka science) doesn't agree with ideology, then the science is wrong. So you get into cognitivie dissonance with the shared worldview

    The UK did an in-depth, scientific, peer-reviewed report/review into transgender cate for children (Cass Report). It effectively called Puberty Blockers untested, dangerous and advised they should be banned for children

    The British Medical Association Board (representing 195k doctors) almost immediately rejected the report, calling the findings "unsubstantiated" - despite the scientific evidence - with some leaders calling the report "toxic".......

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    The British Medical Association Board (representing 195k doctors) almost immediately rejected the report, calling the findings "unsubstantiated" - despite the scientific evidence - with some leaders calling the report "toxic".......

    "And then one day for no reason at all people voted Adolf Hitler into power."

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    @Rembrandt said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    I'm at the point now if a political party ran purely on a platform against this insanity they would have my vote. Especially if it included severe criminal repercusions against these 'professionals' butchering children. How on earth has the world gotten into this state? I see NZ have again delayed a report on puberty blockers again, I wonder what that means?

    It probably means the minister in charge of mental health may have used to have worked at the Tavistock, and, I seem to recall, has a leaning towards allowing his kids to discover their own gender.

    Dude is indoctrinated and is trying to block reality.

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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    @Catogrande said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @MiketheSnow said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @Catogrande said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    @MiketheSnow said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    Could / Should be a landmark case

    From that vid it looks as though there may be a bit more to the story. Is he simply refusing to condone and teach the trans ideology or is he actively demonising both the ideology and people who are trans? Going by that screeching woman supporting him it wouldn’t surprise me if it was the latter.

    Ironically she looks a bit like a tranny herself.

    Either way, he should be able to express his own opinions to give a balanced case for or against transitioning

    Best scenario would be to leave this insidious indoctrination out of the classroom all together

    As I thought, more than meets the eye. That arrest was made September 2023 following a previous arrest the year before. The arrest was not for refusing to use preferred pronouns or speaking against trans-ing (is that a word?) but was for contempt of a court order banning him from going to the school from which he was suspended on paid leave. Now we can all argue that his initial position was reasonable ( and I would argue that), but the school have their view point and went through the proper channels all the way through..

    NB he has recently been released.. We'll see what the next steps are.

    Fair enough

    Agreed

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    More of it

    David Kent  /  Sep 1, 2024  /  Football

    Sutton call off women's game amid transgender goalkeeper controversy

    Sutton call off women's game amid transgender goalkeeper controversy

    The game, which had been scheduled to kick-off at 2pm, was called off after Sutton sent an email to their opponents at 11.12am informing them of their inability to field a team.

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    this was discussed above, Sutton's chairman has now made a statement suggesting that they do not support discrimination, I wonder whether it will turn into a stand off between the players and the club or whether, as I suspect is more likely, the players will back down and be forced to go along with it. No, it seems, does not mean no anymore, useful info for the misogynists' I suppose

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  • BlueWall_noRedsB Offline
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    https://www.advocate.com/news/transgender-americans-killed-2024#rebelltitem1

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    Ah yes, isolated figures used to suggest an epidemic of trans violence that don’t really tell us anything.

    Previous versions have shown trans murders happen at lower rates than the rest of the population. A large proportion of the trans murders are drug related, sex workers and domestic / partner violence.

    Since we’re doing stats though, U.K. rates of sex offending:

    Women: 3 per million
    Men: 395 per million
    Trans women: 1916 per million.

    Interesting

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  • CatograndeC Offline
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    Well no-one saw this sort of thing coming.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clynyky7kj9o

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  • boobooB Offline
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    Interesting

    Sport

    Olympians urge Government to rethink transgender policies

    Olympians urge Government to rethink transgender policies

    The group of over 50 claims the guidelines neglect female athlete's rights.

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    Redirect Notice
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  • MiketheSnowM Offline
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    @Catogrande said in Transgender debate, in sport, in general:

    Well no-one saw this sort of thing coming.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clynyky7kj9o

    But once again no one will be axed

    Fucking disgraceful

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    Dodge
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    who'd have thought, putting an ideological male in charge of a woman's rape crisis centre, one who doesn't understand the limits of his authority, nor behave professionally might result in bad outcomes for women. as for the Non-Binary berk, oh just shut up with your performative self importance.

    The fact that the male CEO is only suspended at the moment is a disgrace. Ideological capture is real.

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