All Blacks 2024
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I've been thinking...
Jordie and Rieko aren't a good midfield, not creative enough.
Put Jordie and Proctor together.
Try Rieko more with ALB or even (gasp) with Lam, who arguably even as a winger wouldn't have been that bad last night.
Combinations, coaches!@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
I've been thinking...
Jordie and Rieko aren't a good midfield, not creative enough.
Put Jordie and Proctor together.
Try Rieko more with ALB or even (gasp) with Lam, who arguably even as a winger wouldn't have been that bad last night.
Combinations, coaches!I'll go one step further. Have a Chiefs - Hurricane combo
7-Cane 8-Sititi 9-Ratima 10-DMac 12-JB 13-Proctor -
@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
I've been thinking...
Jordie and Rieko aren't a good midfield, not creative enough.
Put Jordie and Proctor together.
Try Rieko more with ALB or even (gasp) with Lam, who arguably even as a winger wouldn't have been that bad last night.
Combinations, coaches!I'll go one step further. Have a Chiefs - Hurricane combo
7-Cane 8-Sititi 9-Ratima 10-DMac 12-JB 13-Proctor@BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
I've been thinking...
Jordie and Rieko aren't a good midfield, not creative enough.
Put Jordie and Proctor together.
Try Rieko more with ALB or even (gasp) with Lam, who arguably even as a winger wouldn't have been that bad last night.
Combinations, coaches!I'll go one step further. Have a Chiefs - Hurricane combo
7-Cane 8-Sititi 9-Ratima 10-DMac 12-JB 13-ProctorI notice you left out 6!
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024:
Yeah we did choke, but it was our performances from 2005 up until that loss which made sense keeping Graham Henry.
The issue now is we choke every second game we play.
The sort of fight we showed in tough games like against Ireland and Sth Africa in the RWC seems to have vanished.
@Victor-Meldrew no Smith, Coles, Retallick, Whitelock doesn't help with that.
BB & TJP are not the refuse-to-lose leaders those guys are. One wants to win it with a miracle chip kick every time, and one would rather chirp at the ref than play the game. -
@BerniesCorner said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
@nostrildamus said in Springboks vs All Blacks 2:
I've been thinking...
Jordie and Rieko aren't a good midfield, not creative enough.
Put Jordie and Proctor together.
Try Rieko more with ALB or even (gasp) with Lam, who arguably even as a winger wouldn't have been that bad last night.
Combinations, coaches!I'll go one step further. Have a Chiefs - Hurricane combo
7-Cane 8-Sititi 9-Ratima 10-DMac 12-JB 13-ProctorI notice you left out 6!
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@reprobate said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
What the fuck is up with the kicking?
We know we have good kickers in the side, we've seen them do it.
Why is DMac taking a shot at goal from 60 when his range is 40? Why do we make so little ground when kicking for touch?
The rest of your post I completely agree with, but why do you keep saying McKenzie's range is 40m when it's not?
He can kick them from 50 comfortably and has done many times in the past. Not a good night off the tee, but to say his range is 40m is just plain wrong.At test level? When we know Jordie can comfortably cover the distance? At least he only has to worry about direction and not hope he can kick it 20m further than he usually does.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
@reprobate said in All Blacks 2024:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
What the fuck is up with the kicking?
We know we have good kickers in the side, we've seen them do it.
Why is DMac taking a shot at goal from 60 when his range is 40? Why do we make so little ground when kicking for touch?
The rest of your post I completely agree with, but why do you keep saying McKenzie's range is 40m when it's not?
He can kick them from 50 comfortably and has done many times in the past. Not a good night off the tee, but to say his range is 40m is just plain wrong.At test level? When we know Jordie can comfortably cover the distance? At least he only has to worry about direction and not hope he can kick it 20m further than he usually does.
Is 50m longer at test level?
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@nostrildamus Savea
@BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2024:
@nostrildamus Savea
Ah yes that solves the lineout height problem .. but only from a Hurricane perspective!
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We did alright in the lineouts.
Height is way overstated in importance these days with the lifters available.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2024:
What the fuck is up with the kicking?
We know we have good kickers in the side, we've seen them do it.
Why is DMac taking a shot at goal from 60 when his range is 40? Why do we make so little ground when kicking for touch?
The rest of your post I completely agree with, but why do you keep saying McKenzie's range is 40m when it's not?
He can kick them from 50 comfortably and has done many times in the past. Not a good night off the tee, but to say his range is 40m is just plain wrong. -
I haven't read the match thread yet but Robertson needs to take the blame for his poor substitutions. TJP was brought on far too early, and had the exact opposite effect despite all of his experience.
Lomax was subbed too late as he clearly looked gassed before the YC incident.
Looking at the greater squad who now wouldn't prefer Narawa on the right wing? The wrong winger got cut.
@Bovidae said in All Blacks 2024:
Lomax was subbed too late as he clearly looked gassed before the YC incident.
Agreed.
The fact Tamaiti Williams played until the 68th minute and Lomax still being on in the 72nd minute tells you all you need to know about how they feel about Ofa and Newell in big tests/moments. EDG coming back is a big addition and helps in that regard. I wouldn’t mind never seeing Ofa have another cap in the black jersey.
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I don't get the call for Lam to be added to the midfield. We have yet to see if he can pass the ball effectively.
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If Fozzie was 1/4 in a Rugby Championship would he be allowed back in the country?
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Bottle - whether you have the nerve to take on something.
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@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
But the experienced heads are letting him down. Barrett kicking the ball away week in week out, McKenzie missing kicks. The captain dropping a pass cold today while hot on attack. Two completely avoidable yellow cards today.
This isn’t aimed at you in particular but it’s a prime example so don’t take this the wrong way.
I don’t think I ever saw these kind of excuses for Foster and poor performances. It’s funny how things change when it suits someone’s narrative lol
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
But the experienced heads are letting him down. Barrett kicking the ball away week in week out, McKenzie missing kicks. The captain dropping a pass cold today while hot on attack. Two completely avoidable yellow cards today.
This isn’t aimed at you in particular but it’s a prime example so don’t take this the wrong way.
I don’t think I ever saw these kind of excuses for Foster and poor performances. It’s funny how things change when it suits someone’s narrative lol
Oh no, its 100% on Razor.
Because he keeps picking them, and/or tells them to do this dumb shit like bombs in our own 22.
The point of my post was that he is at 3 losses already, with Ireland England and France to come.
He has painted himself into a corner.Is he bold enough now to bring in a couple of new guys to do what the old guys cant/wont do.
Razors biggest issue (and biggest shock to me from his tenure so far) is that he is essentially trying to play Razor ball (whatever that is) with Fosters team.
His first squad was Fosters squad. No real bolters. A lot of youth that was drafted in hasnt been used. Tosi, Proctor, Love, Sititi until yesterday. And we wouldnt have seen Darry only for scooter getting injured. We may not have seen Sititi yesterday only for Blackadder being injured.
I dont see that its materially any better than what Foster served up, and he copped plenty of welly from all and sundry.
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I preferred when the Allblacks were inaccessible and a bit mysterious.
There is too much access these days, documentaries etc. It's all too collegiate and nice.
I remember Kolisi being interviewed at the POTY awards and was asked about Savea and he said "im so proud of him".
I was thinking fuck that, youre not even team mates, you should be punching the head off each other at the bottom off a ruck, not liking each others instagram posts.
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I preferred when the Allblacks were inaccessible and a bit mysterious.
There is too much access these days, documentaries etc. It's all too collegiate and nice.
I remember Kolisi being interviewed at the POTY awards and was asked about Savea and he said "im so proud of him".
I was thinking fuck that, youre not even team mates, you should be punching the head off each other at the bottom off a ruck, not liking each others instagram posts.
@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
I preferred when the Allblacks were inaccessible and a bit mysterious.
There is too much access these days, documentaries etc. It's all too collegiate and nice.
I remember Kolisi being interviewed at the POTY awards and was asked about Savea and he said "im so proud of him".
I was thinking fuck that, youre not even team mates, you should be punching the head off each other at the bottom off a ruck, not liking each others instagram posts.
You sound like Roy Keane haha.
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I preferred when the Allblacks were inaccessible and a bit mysterious.
There is too much access these days, documentaries etc. It's all too collegiate and nice.
I remember Kolisi being interviewed at the POTY awards and was asked about Savea and he said "im so proud of him".
I was thinking fuck that, youre not even team mates, you should be punching the head off each other at the bottom off a ruck, not liking each others instagram posts.
@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
I preferred when the Allblacks were inaccessible and a bit mysterious.
There is too much access these days, documentaries etc. It's all too collegiate and nice.
I remember Kolisi being interviewed at the POTY awards and was asked about Savea and he said "im so proud of him".
I was thinking fuck that, youre not even team mates, you should be punching the head off each other at the bottom off a ruck, not liking each others instagram posts.
I rewatched the 2005 Lions tests in full recently.
The amount of off the ball stuff was hilarious to watch, and I dont remember noticing any of it at the time.
Even DC was leaving the elbow in to lads heads as he was getting back to his feet.
Loads of punching in rucks.
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@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
I preferred when the Allblacks were inaccessible and a bit mysterious.
There is too much access these days, documentaries etc. It's all too collegiate and nice.
I remember Kolisi being interviewed at the POTY awards and was asked about Savea and he said "im so proud of him".
I was thinking fuck that, youre not even team mates, you should be punching the head off each other at the bottom off a ruck, not liking each others instagram posts.
You sound like Roy Keane haha.
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024:
@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
I preferred when the Allblacks were inaccessible and a bit mysterious.
There is too much access these days, documentaries etc. It's all too collegiate and nice.
I remember Kolisi being interviewed at the POTY awards and was asked about Savea and he said "im so proud of him".
I was thinking fuck that, youre not even team mates, you should be punching the head off each other at the bottom off a ruck, not liking each others instagram posts.
You sound like Roy Keane haha.
He won POTY. Thats his job.
You dont praise the post man for delivering your letters.
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I preferred when the Allblacks were inaccessible and a bit mysterious.
There is too much access these days, documentaries etc. It's all too collegiate and nice.
I remember Kolisi being interviewed at the POTY awards and was asked about Savea and he said "im so proud of him".
I was thinking fuck that, youre not even team mates, you should be punching the head off each other at the bottom off a ruck, not liking each others instagram posts.
@Jet said in All Blacks 2024:
I remember Kolisi being interviewed at the POTY awards and was asked about Savea and he said "im so proud of him".
I was thinking fuck that, youre not even team mates, you should be punching the head off each other at the bottom off a ruck, not liking each others instagram posts.Nah, I'm OK with that as it's actually one of the great things about rugby. Didn't Cane stay with his opposite number in Sth Africa when recovering from his broken neck?
I think it was Bismark Du Plessis who said of an opponent (Andrew Hore?) "I like nothing better than trying to rip his head off - except having too many beers with him afterwards".
