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  • BonesB Bones

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

    Fihaki for me plays really well on the right wing but makes me nervous at FB.

    @Bones gets like that about Will Jordan

    I'm definitely not alone.

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    @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

    @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

    Fihaki for me plays really well on the right wing but makes me nervous at FB.

    @Bones gets like that about Will Jordan

    I'm definitely not alone.

    Yeah but you mention it almost as much as @Canes4life mentions Roigard and Proctor.

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    • MN5M MN5

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

      @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

      Fihaki for me plays really well on the right wing but makes me nervous at FB.

      @Bones gets like that about Will Jordan

      I'm definitely not alone.

      Yeah but you mention it almost as much as @Canes4life mentions Roigard and Proctor.

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      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

      @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

      @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

      Fihaki for me plays really well on the right wing but makes me nervous at FB.

      @Bones gets like that about Will Jordan

      I'm definitely not alone.

      Yeah but you mention it almost as much as @Canes4life mentions Roigard and Proctor.

      As do you...

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      • MN5M MN5

        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

        @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

        Fihaki for me plays really well on the right wing but makes me nervous at FB.

        @Bones gets like that about Will Jordan

        I'm definitely not alone.

        Yeah but you mention it almost as much as @Canes4life mentions Roigard and Proctor.

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        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

        @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2024:

        @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

        Fihaki for me plays really well on the right wing but makes me nervous at FB.

        @Bones gets like that about Will Jordan

        I'm definitely not alone.

        Yeah but you mention it almost as much as @Canes4life mentions Roigard and Proctor.

        Probably because I have a point or two. Fihaki though, what the actual fuck. Stink selection.

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          If it was just to have an extra body for the week to help with training, and they can look at a young guy they think has potential. OK, maybe, but then again why not chose someone playing locally in Wellington if that is the case? They could easily have brought in Higgins and we'd likely have said far less - especially after his recent play in the NPC.

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          • gt12G gt12

            If it was just to have an extra body for the week to help with training, and they can look at a young guy they think has potential. OK, maybe, but then again why not chose someone playing locally in Wellington if that is the case? They could easily have brought in Higgins and we'd likely have said far less - especially after his recent play in the NPC.

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            @gt12 they did similar when in Auckland earlier this year didn't they?

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              Oh duh...if they call in a local then a crusader misses out on a hefty pay bonus.

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              • BonesB Bones

                @gt12 they did similar when in Auckland earlier this year didn't they?

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                @Bones

                I think so. And in Higgins case, it is probably only a matter of time. Or, at least will be once he signs with the Saders.

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                  I have nothing against Fihaki but he has not set the world on fire until now. He's got potential but this announcement is the surprise of the year IMO.

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                  • gt12G gt12

                    @Bones

                    I think so. And in Higgins case, it is probably only a matter of time. Or, at least will be once he signs with the Saders.

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                    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @Bones

                    I think so. And in Higgins case, it is probably only a matter of time. Or, at least will be once he signs with the Saders.

                    I can't remember what crusader was called in while they were in Auckland now.

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                    • Landers92L Landers92

                      @darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @Landers92 yes, for Canterbury he has lots, and at the end of games for Crusaders he's finished there.

                      Razor in his Crusaders days said he had potential to be a great 12.

                      I don't rate him that highly.. but he's got a point of difference due to his physical dimensions, similar to a young Jordie - he's filled out a bit more now... also massive boot on the kid - and very long levers providing good offloading platform from 12.

                      It's not like he's not going to play but he's a good squad pick since he covers 11-15.

                      You’re drunk. He doesn’t play 12. He predominantly plays winger because he has never been able to nail down the 15 jersey, he’s even been kicked to the wing for Canterbury this year. Interested to hear your take on that one… You’re only kidding yourself by trying to justify him being pulled into the squad when there are multiple better players out there than him mate. End of.

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                      @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @Landers92 yes, for Canterbury he has lots, and at the end of games for Crusaders he's finished there.

                      Razor in his Crusaders days said he had potential to be a great 12.

                      I don't rate him that highly.. but he's got a point of difference due to his physical dimensions, similar to a young Jordie - he's filled out a bit more now... also massive boot on the kid - and very long levers providing good offloading platform from 12.

                      It's not like he's not going to play but he's a good squad pick since he covers 11-15.

                      You’re drunk. He doesn’t play 12. He predominantly plays winger because he has never been able to nail down the 15 jersey, he’s even been kicked to the wing for Canterbury this year. Interested to hear your take on that one… You’re only kidding yourself by trying to justify him being pulled into the squad when there are multiple better players out there than him mate. End of.

                      He's only there for squad cover, honestly who gives a flying fuck, I've saved my energy for lamenting the shit selections that Razor is making with his actual 23 and woeful bench management. Fiyaki is simply there to hold tackle bags, this is meaningless in the grand scheme. I'm far more concerned about the direction of this team's attack and defensive structures under the underqualified Super Rugby coaches Holland and Ellison.

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                        @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024:

                        @darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:

                        @Landers92 yes, for Canterbury he has lots, and at the end of games for Crusaders he's finished there.

                        Razor in his Crusaders days said he had potential to be a great 12.

                        I don't rate him that highly.. but he's got a point of difference due to his physical dimensions, similar to a young Jordie - he's filled out a bit more now... also massive boot on the kid - and very long levers providing good offloading platform from 12.

                        It's not like he's not going to play but he's a good squad pick since he covers 11-15.

                        You’re drunk. He doesn’t play 12. He predominantly plays winger because he has never been able to nail down the 15 jersey, he’s even been kicked to the wing for Canterbury this year. Interested to hear your take on that one… You’re only kidding yourself by trying to justify him being pulled into the squad when there are multiple better players out there than him mate. End of.

                        He's only there for squad cover, honestly who gives a flying fuck, I've saved my energy for lamenting the shit selections that Razor is making with his actual 23 and woeful bench management. Fiyaki is simply there to hold tackle bags, this is meaningless in the grand scheme. I'm far more concerned about the direction of this team's attack and defensive structures under the underqualified Super Rugby coaches Holland and Ellison.

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                        @darylmitchell you're really not concerned that when the coach needs someone to just "hold tackle bags", he flies someone undeserving in from down south instead of selecting more worthy players locally?

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                        • D darylmitchell

                          @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024:

                          @darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:

                          @Landers92 yes, for Canterbury he has lots, and at the end of games for Crusaders he's finished there.

                          Razor in his Crusaders days said he had potential to be a great 12.

                          I don't rate him that highly.. but he's got a point of difference due to his physical dimensions, similar to a young Jordie - he's filled out a bit more now... also massive boot on the kid - and very long levers providing good offloading platform from 12.

                          It's not like he's not going to play but he's a good squad pick since he covers 11-15.

                          You’re drunk. He doesn’t play 12. He predominantly plays winger because he has never been able to nail down the 15 jersey, he’s even been kicked to the wing for Canterbury this year. Interested to hear your take on that one… You’re only kidding yourself by trying to justify him being pulled into the squad when there are multiple better players out there than him mate. End of.

                          He's only there for squad cover, honestly who gives a flying fuck, I've saved my energy for lamenting the shit selections that Razor is making with his actual 23 and woeful bench management. Fiyaki is simply there to hold tackle bags, this is meaningless in the grand scheme. I'm far more concerned about the direction of this team's attack and defensive structures under the underqualified Super Rugby coaches Holland and Ellison.

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                          antipodean
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                          @darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:

                          @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024:

                          @darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:

                          @Landers92 yes, for Canterbury he has lots, and at the end of games for Crusaders he's finished there.

                          Razor in his Crusaders days said he had potential to be a great 12.

                          I don't rate him that highly.. but he's got a point of difference due to his physical dimensions, similar to a young Jordie - he's filled out a bit more now... also massive boot on the kid - and very long levers providing good offloading platform from 12.

                          It's not like he's not going to play but he's a good squad pick since he covers 11-15.

                          You’re drunk. He doesn’t play 12. He predominantly plays winger because he has never been able to nail down the 15 jersey, he’s even been kicked to the wing for Canterbury this year. Interested to hear your take on that one… You’re only kidding yourself by trying to justify him being pulled into the squad when there are multiple better players out there than him mate. End of.

                          He's only there for squad cover, honestly who gives a flying fuck, I've saved my energy for lamenting the shit selections that Razor is making with his actual 23 and woeful bench management. Fiyaki is simply there to hold tackle bags, this is meaningless in the grand scheme.

                          I don't think that's accurate. Because the next justification is easier to make; he's been in the environment and knows blah blah blah

                          Nex minut: Here's a cap. Congrats on becoming an All Black.

                          Meanwhile the exodus increases at pace.

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                          • antipodeanA antipodean

                            @darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @Landers92 yes, for Canterbury he has lots, and at the end of games for Crusaders he's finished there.

                            Razor in his Crusaders days said he had potential to be a great 12.

                            I don't rate him that highly.. but he's got a point of difference due to his physical dimensions, similar to a young Jordie - he's filled out a bit more now... also massive boot on the kid - and very long levers providing good offloading platform from 12.

                            It's not like he's not going to play but he's a good squad pick since he covers 11-15.

                            You’re drunk. He doesn’t play 12. He predominantly plays winger because he has never been able to nail down the 15 jersey, he’s even been kicked to the wing for Canterbury this year. Interested to hear your take on that one… You’re only kidding yourself by trying to justify him being pulled into the squad when there are multiple better players out there than him mate. End of.

                            He's only there for squad cover, honestly who gives a flying fuck, I've saved my energy for lamenting the shit selections that Razor is making with his actual 23 and woeful bench management. Fiyaki is simply there to hold tackle bags, this is meaningless in the grand scheme.

                            I don't think that's accurate. Because the next justification is easier to make; he's been in the environment and knows blah blah blah

                            Nex minut: Here's a cap. Congrats on becoming an All Black.

                            Meanwhile the exodus increases at pace.

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                            African Monkey
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                            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:

                            @Landers92 yes, for Canterbury he has lots, and at the end of games for Crusaders he's finished there.

                            Razor in his Crusaders days said he had potential to be a great 12.

                            I don't rate him that highly.. but he's got a point of difference due to his physical dimensions, similar to a young Jordie - he's filled out a bit more now... also massive boot on the kid - and very long levers providing good offloading platform from 12.

                            It's not like he's not going to play but he's a good squad pick since he covers 11-15.

                            You’re drunk. He doesn’t play 12. He predominantly plays winger because he has never been able to nail down the 15 jersey, he’s even been kicked to the wing for Canterbury this year. Interested to hear your take on that one… You’re only kidding yourself by trying to justify him being pulled into the squad when there are multiple better players out there than him mate. End of.

                            He's only there for squad cover, honestly who gives a flying fuck, I've saved my energy for lamenting the shit selections that Razor is making with his actual 23 and woeful bench management. Fiyaki is simply there to hold tackle bags, this is meaningless in the grand scheme.

                            I don't think that's accurate. Because the next justification is easier to make; he's been in the environment and knows blah blah blah

                            Nex minut: Here's a cap. Congrats on becoming an All Black.

                            Meanwhile the exodus increases at pace.

                            Yeah, they way I see it is that if he's bought in, then he's next in line.

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                            • antipodeanA antipodean

                              @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024:

                              Havili or Plummer should get a go at 12 next week.

                              Is that really the best we can do? A bloke proven not to be the solution or one who finally got time at five-eighth during Super Rugby, winning the title in that position?

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                              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024:

                              Havili or Plummer should get a go at 12 next week.

                              Is that really the best we can do? A bloke proven not to be the solution or one who finally got time at five-eighth during Super Rugby, winning the title in that position?

                              You play Plummer at 12 if you want to be able to say "See I tried him and be failed"

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                              • canefanC canefan

                                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024:

                                Havili or Plummer should get a go at 12 next week.

                                Is that really the best we can do? A bloke proven not to be the solution or one who finally got time at five-eighth during Super Rugby, winning the title in that position?

                                You play Plummer at 12 if you want to be able to say "See I tried him and be failed"

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                                @canefan said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                                @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024:

                                Havili or Plummer should get a go at 12 next week.

                                Is that really the best we can do? A bloke proven not to be the solution or one who finally got time at five-eighth during Super Rugby, winning the title in that position?

                                You play Plummer at 12 if you want to be able to say "See I tried him and be failed"

                                Why do that when you can just play him at 10 with Hotham and Havili bracketing?

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                                • Landers92L Landers92

                                  @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  @darylmitchell said in All Blacks 2024:

                                  @Landers92 yes, for Canterbury he has lots, and at the end of games for Crusaders he's finished there.

                                  Razor in his Crusaders days said he had potential to be a great 12.

                                  I don't rate him that highly.. but he's got a point of difference due to his physical dimensions, similar to a young Jordie - he's filled out a bit more now... also massive boot on the kid - and very long levers providing good offloading platform from 12.

                                  It's not like he's not going to play but he's a good squad pick since he covers 11-15.

                                  You’re drunk. He doesn’t play 12. He predominantly plays winger because he has never been able to nail down the 15 jersey, he’s even been kicked to the wing for Canterbury this year. Interested to hear your take on that one… You’re only kidding yourself by trying to justify him being pulled into the squad when there are multiple better players out there than him mate. End of.

                                  And this is coming from someone who's associated with the same club as Fihaki!

                                  You're both Burnside boys right?

                                  Yeah mate, he was at Burnside. He’s a Belfast boy now.

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                                  @Landers92 the money burnside paid him ran out. So he jumped ship straight away to the Cobras.

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                                    I have been thinking about the Fihaki selection and I still can't justify it, baffling even to me a Crusaders man.

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      Havili or Plummer should get a go at 12 next week.

                                      Is that really the best we can do? A bloke proven not to be the solution or one who finally got time at five-eighth during Super Rugby, winning the title in that position?

                                      You play Plummer at 12 if you want to be able to say "See I tried him and be failed"

                                      Why do that when you can just play him at 10 with Hotham and Havili bracketing?

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                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @antipodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2024:

                                      Havili or Plummer should get a go at 12 next week.

                                      Is that really the best we can do? A bloke proven not to be the solution or one who finally got time at five-eighth during Super Rugby, winning the title in that position?

                                      You play Plummer at 12 if you want to be able to say "See I tried him and be failed"

                                      Why do that when you can just play him at 10 with Hotham and Havili bracketing?

                                      Ugh

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                                      • ChrisC Chris

                                        I have been thinking about the Fihaki selection and I still can't justify it, baffling even to me a Crusaders man.

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                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                                        I have been thinking about the Fihaki selection and I still can't justify it, baffling even to me a Crusaders man.

                                        Selected as a first five, just like Beauden.

                                        And everyone is whining that they're not building depth at 10. Open your eyes guys, geez.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          I have been thinking about the Fihaki selection and I still can't justify it, baffling even to me a Crusaders man.

                                          Selected as a first five, just like Beauden.

                                          And everyone is whining that they're not building depth at 10. Open your eyes guys, geez.

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                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          I have been thinking about the Fihaki selection and I still can't justify it, baffling even to me a Crusaders man.

                                          Selected as a first five, just like Beauden.

                                          And everyone is whining that they're not building depth at 10. Open your eyes guys, geez.

                                          Ohh shit I missed that, lol.

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