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All Blacks vs Wallabies 2

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  • DuluthD Duluth

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

    With Jordie injured and ALB stinking out the joint 12 is looking REALLY bad all of a sudden.

    Don't worry, DH is in the squad.

    It's possible considering JB is probably injured and ALB didn't play well. Or a surprise selection of Plummer at 12, him and RI have played together a lot

    I'd like to see ALB/RI play after having a full week training together though

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    Victor Meldrew
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    @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

    @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

    With Jordie injured and ALB stinking out the joint 12 is looking REALLY bad all of a sudden.

    Don't worry, DH is in the squad.

    It's possible considering JB is probably injured and ALB didn't play well. Or a surprise selection of Plummer at 12, him and RI have played together a lot

    I'd like to see ALB/RI play after having a full week training together though

    I'd rather have DH at 12. He at least had some experience.

    And the Fern meltdown will be an opportunity to reduce my popcorn stockpile.

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    • D DaGrubster

      @canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

      @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

      @canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

      I had forgotten that Finau only got 57 minutes in the first test and 49 in the 2nd. That skews his stats big time. It's frustrating that they have gone with Blackadder at 6 as that both fucked the balance and has meant Finau wasn't able to grow at this level. "Not great but not terrible" is actually OK against England given his age and experience, and he clearly has the talent and physical attributes to go very well there.

      It seems like a combination of Crusader bias and a love of Sam Cane that is screwing the balance at the moment. If Blackadder plays, it has to be at 7 as that is where you want your tackler. But they've immediately gone to Cane since his return from injury so their chosen one has to slot in at 6, and having two of the same player out there was never going to work.

      Cane can't leave soon enough. It will force Razor to make changes

      I think this will be his last test match.

      Gets to his 100 and soyonara.

      I’m convinced that his mgmt team has done a deal to get him to a 100 so the NZR can get him off the books

      And Razor just has to play along? Most un-AB like

      Of course I had nothing to back up my claim but just a hunch

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      @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

      @canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

      @DaGrubster said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

      @canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

      @No-Quarter said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

      I had forgotten that Finau only got 57 minutes in the first test and 49 in the 2nd. That skews his stats big time. It's frustrating that they have gone with Blackadder at 6 as that both fucked the balance and has meant Finau wasn't able to grow at this level. "Not great but not terrible" is actually OK against England given his age and experience, and he clearly has the talent and physical attributes to go very well there.

      It seems like a combination of Crusader bias and a love of Sam Cane that is screwing the balance at the moment. If Blackadder plays, it has to be at 7 as that is where you want your tackler. But they've immediately gone to Cane since his return from injury so their chosen one has to slot in at 6, and having two of the same player out there was never going to work.

      Cane can't leave soon enough. It will force Razor to make changes

      I think this will be his last test match.

      Gets to his 100 and soyonara.

      I’m convinced that his mgmt team has done a deal to get him to a 100 so the NZR can get him off the books

      And Razor just has to play along? Most un-AB like

      Of course I had nothing to back up my claim but just a hunch

      I remember in Razor's puff piece doco, he talked about Dropping Wyatt Crockett (?). So the implication was that he is quite able to drop a player if they aren't performing, regardless of reputation

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      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

        @Duluth said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

        @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

        @MN5 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

        With Jordie injured and ALB stinking out the joint 12 is looking REALLY bad all of a sudden.

        Don't worry, DH is in the squad.

        It's possible considering JB is probably injured and ALB didn't play well. Or a surprise selection of Plummer at 12, him and RI have played together a lot

        I'd like to see ALB/RI play after having a full week training together though

        I'd rather have DH at 12. He at least had some experience.

        And the Fern meltdown will be an opportunity to reduce my popcorn stockpile.

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        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

        I'd rather have DH at 12.

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        Havili should be nowhere near ABs XV, let alone ABs squad. We need to move on from these weak, old, slow, flawed players. I can't beleive anyone would suggest this.

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          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

          I'd rather have DH at 12.

          28278199-8fd0-4eb1-be44-87c08718175b-image.png

          Havili should be nowhere near ABs XV, let alone ABs squad. We need to move on from these weak, old, slow, flawed players. I can't beleive anyone would suggest this.

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          Victor Meldrew
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          #187

          @Machpants said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

          @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

          I'd rather have DH at 12.

          28278199-8fd0-4eb1-be44-87c08718175b-image.png

          Havili should be nowhere near ABs XV, let alone ABs squad. We need to move on from these weak, old, slow, flawed players. I can't beleive anyone would suggest this.

          I should have added an irony klaxon. My bad..

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            Landers92
            wrote on last edited by Landers92
            #188

            Well folks, the much anticipated post is here. You can all stop with the backline predictions and start chatting about this weekends backline that you’ll see below. I was unable to get the forward pack but have heard that Tuipolotu is a real chance to be in the 23 this week.

            Again, and as I usually say, a very reliable source who hasn’t led me astray yet. If it’s wrong I’ll own it.

            If there are any late week updates in regards to the team, I’ll post that in this thread.

            Backline for this weekend as follows.

            1. T.Perenara
            2. B.Barrett
            3. C.Clarke
            4. A. Lienart-Brown
            5. R.Ioane
            6. S.Reece
            7. W.Jordan

            Bench
            21. C.Ratima
            22. D.Mckenzie
            23. D.Havili

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            • Landers92L Landers92

              Well folks, the much anticipated post is here. You can all stop with the backline predictions and start chatting about this weekends backline that you’ll see below. I was unable to get the forward pack but have heard that Tuipolotu is a real chance to be in the 23 this week.

              Again, and as I usually say, a very reliable source who hasn’t led me astray yet. If it’s wrong I’ll own it.

              If there are any late week updates in regards to the team, I’ll post that in this thread.

              Backline for this weekend as follows.

              1. T.Perenara
              2. B.Barrett
              3. C.Clarke
              4. A. Lienart-Brown
              5. R.Ioane
              6. S.Reece
              7. W.Jordan

              Bench
              21. C.Ratima
              22. D.Mckenzie
              23. D.Havili

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              MiketheSnow
              wrote on last edited by
              #189

              @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

              Well folks, you can all stop with the backline predictions and start chatting about this weekends backline that you’ll see below. I was unable to get the forward pack but have heard that Tuipolotu is a real chance to be in the 23 this week.

              Again and as I usually say, a very reliable source who hasn’t led me astray yet. If it’s wrong I’ll own it.

              If there are any late week updates in regards to the team, I’ll post that in this thread.

              Backline for this weekend as follows.

              1. T.Perenara
              2. B.Barrett
              3. C.Clarke
              4. A. Lienart-Brown
              5. R.Ioane
              6. S.Reece
              7. W.Jordan

              Bench
              21. C.Ratima
              22. D.Mckenzie
              23. D.Havili

              If that's legit, then that's a retrograde step IMHO

              Although Cortez and DMac coming on could solve the last 20 mins problem

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              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                Well folks, you can all stop with the backline predictions and start chatting about this weekends backline that you’ll see below. I was unable to get the forward pack but have heard that Tuipolotu is a real chance to be in the 23 this week.

                Again and as I usually say, a very reliable source who hasn’t led me astray yet. If it’s wrong I’ll own it.

                If there are any late week updates in regards to the team, I’ll post that in this thread.

                Backline for this weekend as follows.

                1. T.Perenara
                2. B.Barrett
                3. C.Clarke
                4. A. Lienart-Brown
                5. R.Ioane
                6. S.Reece
                7. W.Jordan

                Bench
                21. C.Ratima
                22. D.Mckenzie
                23. D.Havili

                If that's legit, then that's a retrograde step IMHO

                Although Cortez and DMac coming on could solve the last 20 mins problem

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                #190

                @MiketheSnow Hasn’t been wrong yet mate so pretty reliable. Some interesting decisions, that’s for sure.

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                • Landers92L Landers92

                  Well folks, the much anticipated post is here. You can all stop with the backline predictions and start chatting about this weekends backline that you’ll see below. I was unable to get the forward pack but have heard that Tuipolotu is a real chance to be in the 23 this week.

                  Again, and as I usually say, a very reliable source who hasn’t led me astray yet. If it’s wrong I’ll own it.

                  If there are any late week updates in regards to the team, I’ll post that in this thread.

                  Backline for this weekend as follows.

                  1. T.Perenara
                  2. B.Barrett
                  3. C.Clarke
                  4. A. Lienart-Brown
                  5. R.Ioane
                  6. S.Reece
                  7. W.Jordan

                  Bench
                  21. C.Ratima
                  22. D.Mckenzie
                  23. D.Havili

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                  canefan
                  wrote on last edited by canefan
                  #191

                  @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                  Well folks, the much anticipated post is here. You can all stop with the backline predictions and start chatting about this weekends backline that you’ll see below. I was unable to get the forward pack but have heard that Tuipolotu is a real chance to be in the 23 this week.

                  Again, and as I usually say, a very reliable source who hasn’t led me astray yet. If it’s wrong I’ll own it.

                  If there are any late week updates in regards to the team, I’ll post that in this thread.

                  Backline for this weekend as follows.

                  1. T.Perenara
                  2. B.Barrett
                  3. C.Clarke
                  4. A. Lienart-Brown
                  5. R.Ioane
                  6. S.Reece
                  7. W.Jordan

                  Bench
                  21. C.Ratima
                  22. D.Mckenzie
                  23. D.Havili

                  Ugh. That's unimaginative

                  I'm picking

                  Ratima, Plummer, Clarke, ALB, R Ioane, Jordan, BB. Bench TJP, DMac, anyone but DH

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                    gt12
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                    #192

                    Ha ha ha.

                    Two players who should be first choice in their correct positions.

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                    • A ABStats

                      He's missing 1 in every 5 tackles:

                      https://abstats.substack.com/p/the-loose-forwards

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                      #193

                      @ABStats

                      Without breakdown stats this is fairly meaningless when it comes to 7s.

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                        Landers92
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                        #194

                        You’ve really got to feel for a guy like Billy Proctor. Toiled away all season and hasn’t put a foot wrong. Got his game against Fiji and played brilliant. A spot opens up due to a midfield injury and theres a chance he can play his first game in NZ for the AB’s at home in Wellington…. Only for that bench spot go to David Havili. Yikes.

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                        • Landers92L Landers92

                          You’ve really got to feel for a guy like Billy Proctor. Toiled away all season and hasn’t put a foot wrong. Got his game against Fiji and played brilliant. A spot opens up due to a midfield injury and theres a chance he can play his first game in NZ for the AB’s at home in Wellington…. Only for that bench spot go to David Havili. Yikes.

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                          gt12
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                          @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                          You’ve really got to feel for a guy like Billy Proctor. Toiled away all season and hasn’t put a foot wrong. Got his game against Fiji and played brilliant. A spot opens up due to a midfield injury and theres a chase he can play his first game in NZ for the AB’s at home in Wellington…. Only for that bench spot go to David Havili. Yikes.

                          I think he pays for the fact that he’s not real 2nd five cover.

                          I feel for him but until he can show he covers 12, he feels like a starter or not in the 23 (unless ALB starts at 13).

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                            @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                            You’ve really got to feel for a guy like Billy Proctor. Toiled away all season and hasn’t put a foot wrong. Got his game against Fiji and played brilliant. A spot opens up due to a midfield injury and theres a chase he can play his first game in NZ for the AB’s at home in Wellington…. Only for that bench spot go to David Havili. Yikes.

                            I think he pays for the fact that he’s not real 2nd five cover.

                            I feel for him but until he can show he covers 12, he feels like a starter or not in the 23 (unless ALB starts at 13).

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                            @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                            @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                            You’ve really got to feel for a guy like Billy Proctor. Toiled away all season and hasn’t put a foot wrong. Got his game against Fiji and played brilliant. A spot opens up due to a midfield injury and theres a chase he can play his first game in NZ for the AB’s at home in Wellington…. Only for that bench spot go to David Havili. Yikes.

                            I think he pays for the fact that he’s not real 2nd five cover.

                            I feel for him but until he can show he covers 12, he feels like a starter or not in the 23 (unless ALB starts at 13).

                            I'd argue DH isn't real 12 cover either.... Or will he continue to dine out on one game in Joburg about 3 years ago

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                              @ABStats

                              Without breakdown stats this is fairly meaningless when it comes to 7s.

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                              • Landers92L Landers92

                                Well folks, the much anticipated post is here. You can all stop with the backline predictions and start chatting about this weekends backline that you’ll see below. I was unable to get the forward pack but have heard that Tuipolotu is a real chance to be in the 23 this week.

                                Again, and as I usually say, a very reliable source who hasn’t led me astray yet. If it’s wrong I’ll own it.

                                If there are any late week updates in regards to the team, I’ll post that in this thread.

                                Backline for this weekend as follows.

                                1. T.Perenara
                                2. B.Barrett
                                3. C.Clarke
                                4. A. Lienart-Brown
                                5. R.Ioane
                                6. S.Reece
                                7. W.Jordan

                                Bench
                                21. C.Ratima
                                22. D.Mckenzie
                                23. D.Havili

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                                #198

                                @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                Well folks, the much anticipated post is here. You can all stop with the backline predictions and start chatting about this weekends backline that you’ll see below. I was unable to get the forward pack but have heard that Tuipolotu is a real chance to be in the 23 this week.

                                Again, and as I usually say, a very reliable source who hasn’t led me astray yet. If it’s wrong I’ll own it.

                                If there are any late week updates in regards to the team, I’ll post that in this thread.

                                Backline for this weekend as follows.

                                1. T.Perenara
                                2. B.Barrett
                                3. C.Clarke
                                4. A. Lienart-Brown
                                5. R.Ioane
                                6. S.Reece
                                7. W.Jordan

                                Bench
                                21. C.Ratima
                                22. D.Mckenzie
                                23. D.Havili

                                Billy Proctor the obvious omission.

                                And with so many changes if the backline doesn’t hit the heights of first half of Bled One it will be near impossible to establish what caused the diminution.

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                                • Landers92L Landers92

                                  You’ve really got to feel for a guy like Billy Proctor. Toiled away all season and hasn’t put a foot wrong. Got his game against Fiji and played brilliant. A spot opens up due to a midfield injury and theres a chance he can play his first game in NZ for the AB’s at home in Wellington…. Only for that bench spot go to David Havili. Yikes.

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                                  • Landers92L Landers92

                                    Well folks, the much anticipated post is here. You can all stop with the backline predictions and start chatting about this weekends backline that you’ll see below. I was unable to get the forward pack but have heard that Tuipolotu is a real chance to be in the 23 this week.

                                    Again, and as I usually say, a very reliable source who hasn’t led me astray yet. If it’s wrong I’ll own it.

                                    If there are any late week updates in regards to the team, I’ll post that in this thread.

                                    Backline for this weekend as follows.

                                    1. T.Perenara
                                    2. B.Barrett
                                    3. C.Clarke
                                    4. A. Lienart-Brown
                                    5. R.Ioane
                                    6. S.Reece
                                    7. W.Jordan

                                    Bench
                                    21. C.Ratima
                                    22. D.Mckenzie
                                    23. D.Havili

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                                    @Landers92 if Patty T fit then feel he ought to be on bench. Any word on Vaa’i shoulder?

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                                    • canefanC canefan

                                      @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                      @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                      You’ve really got to feel for a guy like Billy Proctor. Toiled away all season and hasn’t put a foot wrong. Got his game against Fiji and played brilliant. A spot opens up due to a midfield injury and theres a chase he can play his first game in NZ for the AB’s at home in Wellington…. Only for that bench spot go to David Havili. Yikes.

                                      I think he pays for the fact that he’s not real 2nd five cover.

                                      I feel for him but until he can show he covers 12, he feels like a starter or not in the 23 (unless ALB starts at 13).

                                      I'd argue DH isn't real 12 cover either.... Or will he continue to dine out on one game in Joburg about 3 years ago

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                                      @canefan said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                      @gt12 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                      @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                      You’ve really got to feel for a guy like Billy Proctor. Toiled away all season and hasn’t put a foot wrong. Got his game against Fiji and played brilliant. A spot opens up due to a midfield injury and theres a chase he can play his first game in NZ for the AB’s at home in Wellington…. Only for that bench spot go to David Havili. Yikes.

                                      I think he pays for the fact that he’s not real 2nd five cover.

                                      I feel for him but until he can show he covers 12, he feels like a starter or not in the 23 (unless ALB starts at 13).

                                      I'd argue DH isn't real 12 cover either.... Or will he continue to dine out on one game in Joburg about 3 years ago

                                      He’s started there at Super level this year though, I’m sure. And has multiple tests at 12 in black. And is a Crusader.

                                      I’m not supporting it, I just think that proctor still has the issue of being a specialist in a position where a bench spot really needs capability to play both.

                                      However, I would have had both Plummer and Proctor on the bench for this game - that covers both.

                                      They could then just rest Dmac and give the young guys time out there.

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                                        So the plan to improve the last 20 minutes is to have two inferior players (Beauden and TJ) play the first 60.
                                        Genius!!!

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                                        • Landers92L Landers92

                                          Well folks, the much anticipated post is here. You can all stop with the backline predictions and start chatting about this weekends backline that you’ll see below. I was unable to get the forward pack but have heard that Tuipolotu is a real chance to be in the 23 this week.

                                          Again, and as I usually say, a very reliable source who hasn’t led me astray yet. If it’s wrong I’ll own it.

                                          If there are any late week updates in regards to the team, I’ll post that in this thread.

                                          Backline for this weekend as follows.

                                          1. T.Perenara
                                          2. B.Barrett
                                          3. C.Clarke
                                          4. A. Lienart-Brown
                                          5. R.Ioane
                                          6. S.Reece
                                          7. W.Jordan

                                          Bench
                                          21. C.Ratima
                                          22. D.Mckenzie
                                          23. D.Havili

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                                          @Landers92 said in All Blacks vs Wallabies 2:

                                          T.Perenara
                                          B.Barrett
                                          C.Clarke
                                          A. Lienart-Brown
                                          R.Ioane
                                          S.Reece
                                          W.Jordan
                                          Bench
                                          21. C.Ratima
                                          22. D.Mckenzie
                                          23. D.Havili

                                          https://i.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExeHpjdXduemMzNXlsdTRiMW01NTEzaTJicmhzbTVpdGpkbDg5MDRzMyZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/dOl2LFw0RbTMc/giphy.gif

                                          This is officially the point my honey moon period for Razor is over. WTAF. It's back to the future, the future being the same shit as Foz

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