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NZ First Five Crisis

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    @chchfanatic said in NZ First Five Crisis:

    I’m just sitting here waiting to see the reaction if Razors son gets close to super rugby. He plays 10 and has just secured a spot in crusaders academy. Some would say inevitable, but he’s actually a decent player. Big boy with a good skill set.

    same reaction when Carlos' boy got a contract - they're there on merit (presumably)

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    @nzzp is Carlos the All blacks coach.

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      Taine Plumtree got a Blues contract when John Plumtree was ABs forwards coach.

      Nobody cared.

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      • C chchfanatic

        I’m just sitting here waiting to see the reaction if Razors son gets close to super rugby. He plays 10 and has just secured a spot in crusaders academy. Some would say inevitable, but he’s actually a decent player. Big boy with a good skill set.

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        @chchfanatic said in NZ First Five Crisis:

        I’m just sitting here waiting to see the reaction if Razors son gets close to super rugby. He plays 10 and has just secured a spot in crusaders academy. Some would say inevitable, but he’s actually a decent player. Big boy with a good skill set.

        I think you are trolling but I'll take your question at face value. If the kid is a good 10 with all the skills we're looking for, if he can turn out for a SR side and play well, then sure let's have him.

        If Fozzie had passed over a bunch of SR form players and populated his team with undeserving Chiefs players at every opportunity I would expect everyone on here, you included, would call him out on it. As we should

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          McKenzie is so far away from the problem the All Blacks have at the moment.

          Toggle with the loosies, lock down the first choice fullback and give the guys a few games together and the results will come. The team isn't far away from clicking at all.

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          @Mr-Fish said in NZ First Five Crisis:

          McKenzie is so far away from the problem the All Blacks have at the moment.

          Toggle with the loosies, lock down the first choice fullback and give the guys a few games together and the results will come. The team isn't far away from clicking at all.

          DMac has been copping it so much this week I assume his middle name must be Ioane.

          The three passes seem to be outweighing any decent analysis of his play, and on a rewatch I think only the reverse pass is an actual issue and Razor has taken that better than the fans on here. If the Reece pass had gone to his breadbasket it would have been forward.

          Sheesh, I even saw in the match threads claims from a poster that DMac is a shit passer when he's one of the best passers in the game in NZ at the moment.

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            I’m just sitting here waiting to see the reaction if Razors son gets close to super rugby. He plays 10 and has just secured a spot in crusaders academy. Some would say inevitable, but he’s actually a decent player. Big boy with a good skill set.

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            @chchfanatic said in NZ First Five Crisis:

            I’m just sitting here waiting to see the reaction if Razors son gets close to super rugby. He plays 10 and has just secured a spot in crusaders academy. Some would say inevitable, but he’s actually a decent player. Big boy with a good skill set.

            If he's good enough, none of us would care who his Dad is.

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              @Duluth and if he selected his own son to be All Black. No reaction.

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              @chchfanatic said in NZ First Five Crisis:

              @Duluth and if he selected his own son to be All Black. No reaction.

              Again, if he's good enough then none of us would care.

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                @chchfanatic said in NZ First Five Crisis:

                @Duluth and if he selected his own son to be All Black. No reaction.

                Again, if he's good enough then none of us would care.

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                @sparky said in NZ First Five Crisis:

                @chchfanatic said in NZ First Five Crisis:

                @Duluth and if he selected his own son to be All Black. No reaction.

                Again, if he's good enough then none of us would care.

                Same goes for Ethan. If he played the house down I don't think anyone complains. But if there is a feeling you didn't deserve your place, and you can't do your talking on the field, of course those feelings will not be silenced

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                  Plummer is a stop gap if DMac gets injured. Jacomb and Simpson won't be ready before two or three years. They are the most promising 1st Fives right now. I am not on the Godfrey's bandwagon. He is more a fullback than a 10 IMO. Harkin looks fine at NPC level (so do Jacomb and Simpson). Let's see how these young guys perform at SR level (which is no more the best competition, BTW) to have a clearer view.

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                    Plummer is a stop gap if DMac gets injured. Jacomb and Simpson won't be ready before two or three years. They are the most promising 1st Fives right now. I am not on the Godfrey's bandwagon. He is more a fullback than a 10 IMO. Harkin looks fine at NPC level (so do Jacomb and Simpson). Let's see how these young guys perform at SR level (which is no more the best competition, BTW) to have a clearer view.

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                    @cgrant said in NZ First Five Crisis:

                    Plummer is a stop gap if DMac gets injured. Jacomb and Simpson won't be ready before two or three years. They are the most promising 1st Fives right now. I am not on the Godfrey's bandwagon. He is more a fullback than a 10 IMO. Harkin looks fine at NPC level (so do Jacomb and Simpson). Let's see how these young guys perform at SR level (which is no more the best competition, BTW) to have a clearer view.

                    Jacomb is 23 and was NPC POTY after leading Taranaki to a title last year. Yes, he's not played an awful lot of Super Rugby - but he's certainly ready for some lower level international matches. Get him on the EOYT and he can play against Japan and Italy.

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                    • M Mr Fish

                      @cgrant said in NZ First Five Crisis:

                      Plummer is a stop gap if DMac gets injured. Jacomb and Simpson won't be ready before two or three years. They are the most promising 1st Fives right now. I am not on the Godfrey's bandwagon. He is more a fullback than a 10 IMO. Harkin looks fine at NPC level (so do Jacomb and Simpson). Let's see how these young guys perform at SR level (which is no more the best competition, BTW) to have a clearer view.

                      Jacomb is 23 and was NPC POTY after leading Taranaki to a title last year. Yes, he's not played an awful lot of Super Rugby - but he's certainly ready for some lower level international matches. Get him on the EOYT and he can play against Japan and Italy.

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                      @Mr-Fish said in NZ First Five Crisis:

                      @cgrant said in NZ First Five Crisis:

                      Plummer is a stop gap if DMac gets injured. Jacomb and Simpson won't be ready before two or three years. They are the most promising 1st Fives right now. I am not on the Godfrey's bandwagon. He is more a fullback than a 10 IMO. Harkin looks fine at NPC level (so do Jacomb and Simpson). Let's see how these young guys perform at SR level (which is no more the best competition, BTW) to have a clearer view.

                      Jacomb is 23 and was NPC POTY after leading Taranaki to a title last year. Yes, he's not played an awful lot of Super Rugby - but he's certainly ready for some lower level international matches. Get him on the EOYT and he can play against Japan and Italy.

                      It's crazy that so many good players don't get a chance to play international rugby well past the age that they had breakout seasons

                      Imagine if Little and Horan had to wait until they were 23 to play for Australia for the first time

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