NFL 2025
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Not a single punt in the Bengals-Commanders game! Prime time viewing.
Bengals now have a massive hill to climb. I'd say they're good enough to do it but they've dropped two games that should have been easy wins, so I don't see how you can have any confidence that they'll get things done in any other game an their schedule.
Next up they're off to play the Panthers, and their old friend Andy Dalton. Again, should be an easy win, so I wonder how they'll stuff this one up.
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Allen is a stud
Yeah
Love josh allen
Usually hate QBs
Live to see a pocket passing QB getting cut in half by a D lineman . . . and get loaded on the cart . . . beautiful thing
But allen not only runs the ball . . . he hits it up . . . and drops his shoulder! . . . takes the hit and then trash talks the defence
love it
actually lol with some of his moves
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notice a few "rugby passes" (what the seppos call them) creeping into the NFL
Amon Ra (Detroit) caught a QB pass then did a lateral to another player who crossed for the TD
Travis Kelce seems to be looking to try this move whenever he has the ball now too
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The hook and ladder has been around a while, but definitely getting more common as a way to break up defensive patterns.
Will Levis had a crack at an offload and it was a disaster.
One of the issues with creativity in the NFL is that if you lose doing a 'conventional' thing you generally get forgotten and the league moves on. If you try something and it goes wrong then it ends up being repeated for weeks and the media dine out and owners hate a loser, but hate looking foolish even more (as a general rule). Takes a combination of a creative, aggressive coach in a situation where they feel their job is safe to really go for it.
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The hook and ladder has been around a while, but definitely getting more common as a way to break up defensive patterns.
Will Levis had a crack at an offload and it was a disaster.
One of the issues with creativity in the NFL is that if you lose doing a 'conventional' thing you generally get forgotten and the league moves on. If you try something and it goes wrong then it ends up being repeated for weeks and the media dine out and owners hate a loser, but hate looking foolish even more (as a general rule). Takes a combination of a creative, aggressive coach in a situation where they feel their job is safe to really go for it.
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Yeah
Love josh allen
Usually hate QBs
Live to see a pocket passing QB getting cut in half by a D lineman . . . and get loaded on the cart . . . beautiful thing
But allen not only runs the ball . . . he hits it up . . . and drops his shoulder! . . . takes the hit and then trash talks the defence
love it
actually lol with some of his moves
Usually hate QBs
Another newbie comment - but I think I know where you're coming from.
Of the two games I watched this weekend... the QB would take a run, let his mate take/give a hit on a defender, to give him extra space, and the QB ran straight into "touch", so that he wouldn't get hit.
Another play - the bitch just dropping to the ground like Will Jordan so that he wouldn't get tackled, rather than gain another yard and get touched by the big bad oppo.
I'm assuming that's standard procedure? -
Usually hate QBs
Another newbie comment - but I think I know where you're coming from.
Of the two games I watched this weekend... the QB would take a run, let his mate take/give a hit on a defender, to give him extra space, and the QB ran straight into "touch", so that he wouldn't get hit.
Another play - the bitch just dropping to the ground like Will Jordan so that he wouldn't get tackled, rather than gain another yard and get touched by the big bad oppo.
I'm assuming that's standard procedure?I'm assuming that's standard procedure?
top tier quarterbacks are utterly rare. If you get one, you hold them. So yeah, they get told to make business decisions and stay away from the elite nasty people trying to kill them
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I'm assuming that's standard procedure?
top tier quarterbacks are utterly rare. If you get one, you hold them. So yeah, they get told to make business decisions and stay away from the elite nasty people trying to kill them
Yeah - went into the rabbit-hole of the "Saints Bounty Scandal" a couple days back, and it did give me the context where I kinda thought "hmmm... kinda understand that".
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@Kruse they also take up 15-20% of your salary cap. They are the single most important position on the field. QB economics are borked ... you have to swing and accept you'll probably miss in the draft - but if you don't, you won't win.
@Kruse they also take up 15-20% of your salary cap. They are the single most important position on the field. QB economics are borked ... you have to swing and accept you'll probably miss in the draft - but if you don't, you won't win.
And yeah - having watched a couple of games... also realised how absolutely critical that one position is. And thought... "That's fucked".
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@Kruse they also take up 15-20% of your salary cap. They are the single most important position on the field. QB economics are borked ... you have to swing and accept you'll probably miss in the draft - but if you don't, you won't win.
And yeah - having watched a couple of games... also realised how absolutely critical that one position is. And thought... "That's fucked".
@Kruse they also take up 15-20% of your salary cap. They are the single most important position on the field. QB economics are borked ... you have to swing and accept you'll probably miss in the draft - but if you don't, you won't win.
And yeah - having watched a couple of games... also realised how absolutely critical that one position is. And thought... "That's fucked".
single hardest position in sport.
You have to read the field, sense the pressure, throw the ball - all in about 2 seconds or so. And it's incredibly hard to predict who will do that well. And you need the right coordinators around you, and the right Oline, and good receivers, and so on ... it's incredibly tough.
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@Kruse they also take up 15-20% of your salary cap. They are the single most important position on the field. QB economics are borked ... you have to swing and accept you'll probably miss in the draft - but if you don't, you won't win.
And yeah - having watched a couple of games... also realised how absolutely critical that one position is. And thought... "That's fucked".
single hardest position in sport.
You have to read the field, sense the pressure, throw the ball - all in about 2 seconds or so. And it's incredibly hard to predict who will do that well. And you need the right coordinators around you, and the right Oline, and good receivers, and so on ... it's incredibly tough.
@Kruse they also take up 15-20% of your salary cap. They are the single most important position on the field. QB economics are borked ... you have to swing and accept you'll probably miss in the draft - but if you don't, you won't win.
And yeah - having watched a couple of games... also realised how absolutely critical that one position is. And thought... "That's fucked".
single hardest position in sport.
You have to read the field, sense the pressure, throw the ball - all in about 2 seconds or so. And it's incredibly hard to predict who will do that well. And you need the right coordinators around you, and the right Oline, and good receivers, and so on ... it's incredibly tough.
I'm still figuring out the rules, and the tactics based on the rules, etc, etc. But yeah... what the actual fuck. It seems like an absurd amount of pressure to put on a single position, at this early stage in my NFL-journey/Seahawks-bandwagon.
And I'm sure I will have many many more questions around the "Oline" and other positions... I'm taking baby-steps at the moment... looking up penalties/fouls as I see them, and go "what the fuck?" -
@Kruse they also take up 15-20% of your salary cap. They are the single most important position on the field. QB economics are borked ... you have to swing and accept you'll probably miss in the draft - but if you don't, you won't win.
And yeah - having watched a couple of games... also realised how absolutely critical that one position is. And thought... "That's fucked".
single hardest position in sport.
You have to read the field, sense the pressure, throw the ball - all in about 2 seconds or so. And it's incredibly hard to predict who will do that well. And you need the right coordinators around you, and the right Oline, and good receivers, and so on ... it's incredibly tough.
I'm still figuring out the rules, and the tactics based on the rules, etc, etc. But yeah... what the actual fuck. It seems like an absurd amount of pressure to put on a single position, at this early stage in my NFL-journey/Seahawks-bandwagon.
And I'm sure I will have many many more questions around the "Oline" and other positions... I'm taking baby-steps at the moment... looking up penalties/fouls as I see them, and go "what the fuck?" -
@Kruse they also take up 15-20% of your salary cap. They are the single most important position on the field. QB economics are borked ... you have to swing and accept you'll probably miss in the draft - but if you don't, you won't win.
And yeah - having watched a couple of games... also realised how absolutely critical that one position is. And thought... "That's fucked".
single hardest position in sport.
You have to read the field, sense the pressure, throw the ball - all in about 2 seconds or so. And it's incredibly hard to predict who will do that well. And you need the right coordinators around you, and the right Oline, and good receivers, and so on ... it's incredibly tough.
The windows for throws are insane! If you pause the video when you throw the ball, the receiver generally won't have made his break yet, so you're literally targeting a random space on the field. Being 'open' in the NFL is just having a slight leverage advantage so the QB can put the ball on a spot the defender can't reach.
I'd agree with you that it's the hardest position to play in any sport, because the US produces literally thousands of players that are draft eligible every year and most years you might find one or two that good (not great) at the position. It's crazy to think that before they had helmet radios the QB was also responsible for make the play call!
It's also the favourite scope goat - fans love to blame qbs and play callers when things go bad, but there's a lot more too it. A bad oline in particular can destroy a team no matter who else is there.
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QBs have not always been as important as they are now
rule changes over the past couple of decades have been all in their favour
for commercial reasons . . . star player QBs and spectacular way downfield plays are easy to hype to the GP
if the defenses start to get on top, they'll just tweak the rules for the QBs again
the NFL is an extremely well run league, everything is "up and to the right"
as a league they dwarf every other sports league in the world
if you are a sports fan you have to watchmakes the efforts of rugby to improve their game (by game i mean commercial product) look pretty pathetic
rugby is my game, but i watch far more american football (college and NFL) now than i do rugby -
@Kruse just watch. The commentators are top tier, the analysis is excellent (generally) - and you can google what things mean.
Slot receivers, nickle, hook and ladder ... you name it
@Kruse just watch. The commentators are top tier, the analysis is excellent (generally) - and you can google what things mean.
That's exactly what I've been doing... just watching, with my phone in my hand, constantly Asking-Jeeves "what the fuck is a Pass Interference, I thought the whole game was constant interfering with passes being thrown/caught?" ... followed by "... aahhh... shit, that changes everything, I know nothing, like Jon Snow - do I qualify for a hot redhead?"
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@Kruse just watch. The commentators are top tier, the analysis is excellent (generally) - and you can google what things mean.
That's exactly what I've been doing... just watching, with my phone in my hand, constantly Asking-Jeeves "what the fuck is a Pass Interference, I thought the whole game was constant interfering with passes being thrown/caught?" ... followed by "... aahhh... shit, that changes everything, I know nothing, like Jon Snow - do I qualify for a hot redhead?"
