All Blacks 2024
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Reputation lag is a real thing
Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Reputation lag is a real thing
Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick
2 of those passes from Dmac stick two weeks ago and they’d be calling for him to be world player of the year, best since Dan Carter.
They are not here to inform.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Reputation lag is a real thing
Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick
2 of those passes from Dmac stick two weeks ago and they’d be calling for him to be world player of the year, best since Dan Carter.
They are not here to inform.
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@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
on the socials ive seen lots of people raving about BB this year...and i just dont get it
i am convinced that fans of all sports think it is perpetually 5 years ago.
You see it heaps in the NBA where fans will bemoan the lack of Harden and Leanard in the finals now, and think they lack star power.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2024:
@Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2024:
on the socials ive seen lots of people raving about BB this year...and i just dont get it
i am convinced that fans of all sports think it is perpetually 5 years ago.
You see it heaps in the NBA where fans will bemoan the lack of Harden and Leanard in the finals now, and think they lack star power.
Funnily enough I was having that same chat about the NBA with a mate and how some people still think it's 2018 with players and how they won't move onto the next generation.
But yeah, the BB love all of a sudden, interesting to say the least.
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@Snowy said in All Blacks 2024:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:
They are not here to inform.
Well they are really. They just don't.
Our society has lots of 'meant to' without actual doing.
We have some supposedly good journos / media types (hi @Smudge !) on here but sadly the standard across the board has the depth of a puddle.
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@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Reputation lag is a real thing
Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick
2 of those passes from Dmac stick two weeks ago and they’d be calling for him to be world player of the year, best since Dan Carter.
They are not here to inform.
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Reputation lag is a real thing
Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick
2 of those passes from Dmac stick two weeks ago and they’d be calling for him to be world player of the year, best since Dan Carter.
They are not here to inform.
They didn't stick though so feel like it is a moot point... some people rate BB, some rate DMac, some rate Plummer, some rate none of them. The beauty of sport is fans are entitled to opinion...
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@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Reputation lag is a real thing
Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick
2 of those passes from Dmac stick two weeks ago and they’d be calling for him to be world player of the year, best since Dan Carter.
They are not here to inform.
They didn't stick though so feel like it is a moot point... some people rate BB, some rate DMac, some rate Plummer, some rate none of them. The beauty of sport is fans are entitled to opinion...
@frugby said in All Blacks 2024:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Reputation lag is a real thing
Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick
2 of those passes from Dmac stick two weeks ago and they’d be calling for him to be world player of the year, best since Dan Carter.
They are not here to inform.
They didn't stick though so feel like it is a moot point... some people rate BB, some rate DMac, some rate Plummer, some rate none of them. The beauty of sport is fans are entitled to opinion...
I think our next "great" 10 isnt in the squad. Had high hopes for Ruben Love a few years back and even Zarn. I hope there is some young fella waiting in the wings because our incumbents arent up to much.
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@frugby said in All Blacks 2024:
@gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:
Reputation lag is a real thing
Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick
2 of those passes from Dmac stick two weeks ago and they’d be calling for him to be world player of the year, best since Dan Carter.
They are not here to inform.
They didn't stick though so feel like it is a moot point... some people rate BB, some rate DMac, some rate Plummer, some rate none of them. The beauty of sport is fans are entitled to opinion...
I think our next "great" 10 isnt in the squad. Had high hopes for Ruben Love a few years back and even Zarn. I hope there is some young fella waiting in the wings because our incumbents arent up to much.
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I would like to see Papali'i back in the mix.
Cane was pretty ordinary against the Wallabies and we lost both those Bok tests.
I just don't get the appeal of Cane?
@brodean His flawed tackle technique (starts at the chest and goes higher when he is inaccurate) gives one or two big tackles per game when he is on form, but it directly leads to cards, and he makes a lot of mistakes too. Just not big enough, fast enough, or strong enough on the carry.
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@brodean His flawed tackle technique (starts at the chest and goes higher when he is inaccurate) gives one or two big tackles per game when he is on form, but it directly leads to cards, and he makes a lot of mistakes too. Just not big enough, fast enough, or strong enough on the carry.
@Tim said in All Blacks 2024:
@brodean His flawed tackle technique (starts at the chest and goes higher when he is inaccurate) gives one or two big tackles per game when he is on form, but it directly leads to cards, and he makes a lot of mistakes too. Just not big enough, fast enough, or strong enough on the carry.
A bit of a common flaw amongst AB loosies.
Especially that guy Dalton Papalii
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@Tim said in All Blacks 2024:
@brodean His flawed tackle technique (starts at the chest and goes higher when he is inaccurate) gives one or two big tackles per game when he is on form, but it directly leads to cards, and he makes a lot of mistakes too. Just not big enough, fast enough, or strong enough on the carry.
A bit of a common flaw amongst AB loosies.
Especially that guy Dalton Papalii
Papali'is top pace is nothing to sneer at.
I recall Sititi making breaks but not being able to go all the way. He's very explosive and gets to top speed quickly but I doubt his top speed will take him all the way.
No one was touching Papali'i on that intercept against England. Probably Savea is the only faster loosie in the squad.
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I'll honestly be surprised if Sotutu makes the AB XV which is sad.
I think Haig has potential but anyone of Parker, Stodart, Finau, Ah Kuoi, Delaney, or Suafoa have just as much potential.
@brodean said in All Blacks 2024:
I'll honestly be surprised if Sotutu makes the AB XV which is sad.
I think Haig has potential but anyone of Parker, Stodart, Finau, Ah Kuoi, Delaney, or Suafoa have just as much potential.
Haig is better than Parker, Stodart, Ah Kui, and Delaney. Finau, Suafoa, and Haig are the three with the most potential
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@brodean said in All Blacks 2024:
I'll honestly be surprised if Sotutu makes the AB XV which is sad.
I think Haig has potential but anyone of Parker, Stodart, Finau, Ah Kuoi, Delaney, or Suafoa have just as much potential.
Haig is better than Parker, Stodart, Ah Kui, and Delaney. Finau, Suafoa, and Haig are the three with the most potential
Yeah nah
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Yeah nah
@brodean he’s definitely better than Parker and Stodard, those no debate about that.
Ah Kui is a lock and was well beaten around the park by Haig this year in NPC this year. As an out and out six, one is clearly more suited
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@brodean said in All Blacks 2024:
I'll honestly be surprised if Sotutu makes the AB XV which is sad.
I think Haig has potential but anyone of Parker, Stodart, Finau, Ah Kuoi, Delaney, or Suafoa have just as much potential.
Haig is better than Parker, Stodart, Ah Kui, and Delaney. Finau, Suafoa, and Haig are the three with the most potential
@KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks 2024:
@brodean said in All Blacks 2024:
I'll honestly be surprised if Sotutu makes the AB XV which is sad.
I think Haig has potential but anyone of Parker, Stodart, Finau, Ah Kuoi, Delaney, or Suafoa have just as much potential.
Haig is better than Parker, Stodart, Ah Kui, and Delaney. Finau, Suafoa, and Haig are the three with the most potential
Haven’t really seen enough of Haig to comment. Him Finau and Suafoa are the right (Kaino) size. -
Oli Haig will play international rugby. Just depends if it is for the All Blacks or England. I think for the fact there is threat of him leaving, he could be fast-tracked so they can get a proper look at him.
Thing I really like about him is he does the hard yards around the ruck, as well as offering skill in the wider channels. Also a good lineout target. As I have said before, once Cane leaves, more chance Sititi shuffles to either 7 or 8, leaving a gap.
Finau hasn't taken the chance, and I feel like being able to do the hard yards around the ruck, and being a good lineout target are going to be key in whoever we mesh with Sititi.
As Sititi has showed, right place, right time is often just as important as being good. I mean look at Proctor and Lakai - been bloody outstanding, but there are established guys parked in front of them.
