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    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

    Reputation lag is a real thing

    Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick

    2 of those passes from Dmac stick two weeks ago and they’d be calling for him to be world player of the year, best since Dan Carter.

    They are not here to inform.

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    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:

    @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

    Reputation lag is a real thing

    Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick

    2 of those passes from Dmac stick two weeks ago and they’d be calling for him to be world player of the year, best since Dan Carter.

    They are not here to inform.

    They didn't stick though so feel like it is a moot point... some people rate BB, some rate DMac, some rate Plummer, some rate none of them. The beauty of sport is fans are entitled to opinion...

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      kiwiinmelb
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      Yeah I remember BB being a bit of a whipping boy last year when the public wanted Stevenson selected , He was a Fozzie favourite apparently.

      Now they want him given the keys to the 10 jersey .

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        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:

        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

        Reputation lag is a real thing

        Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick

        2 of those passes from Dmac stick two weeks ago and they’d be calling for him to be world player of the year, best since Dan Carter.

        They are not here to inform.

        They didn't stick though so feel like it is a moot point... some people rate BB, some rate DMac, some rate Plummer, some rate none of them. The beauty of sport is fans are entitled to opinion...

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        @frugby said in All Blacks 2024:

        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:

        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

        Reputation lag is a real thing

        Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick

        2 of those passes from Dmac stick two weeks ago and they’d be calling for him to be world player of the year, best since Dan Carter.

        They are not here to inform.

        They didn't stick though so feel like it is a moot point... some people rate BB, some rate DMac, some rate Plummer, some rate none of them. The beauty of sport is fans are entitled to opinion...

        I think our next "great" 10 isnt in the squad. Had high hopes for Ruben Love a few years back and even Zarn. I hope there is some young fella waiting in the wings because our incumbents arent up to much.

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          @frugby said in All Blacks 2024:

          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2024:

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2024:

          Reputation lag is a real thing

          Because 6-7 years ago Beauden was World Player of the Year and DMac was a fringe AB then those reputations stick

          2 of those passes from Dmac stick two weeks ago and they’d be calling for him to be world player of the year, best since Dan Carter.

          They are not here to inform.

          They didn't stick though so feel like it is a moot point... some people rate BB, some rate DMac, some rate Plummer, some rate none of them. The beauty of sport is fans are entitled to opinion...

          I think our next "great" 10 isnt in the squad. Had high hopes for Ruben Love a few years back and even Zarn. I hope there is some young fella waiting in the wings because our incumbents arent up to much.

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          @Jet I hoped for more from Zarn, but at ten his kicking looks too slow.

          Still a hell of a player though

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            Jacomb looks the most promising to me.

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              AB's squad named at 2pm Monday for end of year tour.

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                AB's squad named at 2pm Monday for end of year tour.

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                brodean
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                I would like to see Papali'i back in the mix.

                Cane was pretty ordinary against the Wallabies and we lost both those Bok tests.

                I just don't get the appeal of Cane?

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                  I would like to see Papali'i back in the mix.

                  Cane was pretty ordinary against the Wallabies and we lost both those Bok tests.

                  I just don't get the appeal of Cane?

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                  @brodean His flawed tackle technique (starts at the chest and goes higher when he is inaccurate) gives one or two big tackles per game when he is on form, but it directly leads to cards, and he makes a lot of mistakes too. Just not big enough, fast enough, or strong enough on the carry.

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                    @brodean His flawed tackle technique (starts at the chest and goes higher when he is inaccurate) gives one or two big tackles per game when he is on form, but it directly leads to cards, and he makes a lot of mistakes too. Just not big enough, fast enough, or strong enough on the carry.

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                    @Tim said in All Blacks 2024:

                    @brodean His flawed tackle technique (starts at the chest and goes higher when he is inaccurate) gives one or two big tackles per game when he is on form, but it directly leads to cards, and he makes a lot of mistakes too. Just not big enough, fast enough, or strong enough on the carry.

                    A bit of a common flaw amongst AB loosies.

                    Especially that guy Dalton Papalii

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                      @Tim said in All Blacks 2024:

                      @brodean His flawed tackle technique (starts at the chest and goes higher when he is inaccurate) gives one or two big tackles per game when he is on form, but it directly leads to cards, and he makes a lot of mistakes too. Just not big enough, fast enough, or strong enough on the carry.

                      A bit of a common flaw amongst AB loosies.

                      Especially that guy Dalton Papalii

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                      brodean
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                      @MN5

                      Papali'is top pace is nothing to sneer at.

                      I recall Sititi making breaks but not being able to go all the way. He's very explosive and gets to top speed quickly but I doubt his top speed will take him all the way.

                      No one was touching Papali'i on that intercept against England. Probably Savea is the only faster loosie in the squad.

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                        I'll honestly be surprised if Sotutu makes the AB XV which is sad.

                        I think Haig has potential but anyone of Parker, Stodart, Finau, Ah Kuoi, Delaney, or Suafoa have just as much potential.

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                        @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                        @reprobate

                        I'll honestly be surprised if Sotutu makes the AB XV which is sad.

                        I think Haig has potential but anyone of Parker, Stodart, Finau, Ah Kuoi, Delaney, or Suafoa have just as much potential.

                        Haig is better than Parker, Stodart, Ah Kui, and Delaney. Finau, Suafoa, and Haig are the three with the most potential

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                          @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                          @reprobate

                          I'll honestly be surprised if Sotutu makes the AB XV which is sad.

                          I think Haig has potential but anyone of Parker, Stodart, Finau, Ah Kuoi, Delaney, or Suafoa have just as much potential.

                          Haig is better than Parker, Stodart, Ah Kui, and Delaney. Finau, Suafoa, and Haig are the three with the most potential

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                          brodean
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                          @KiwiInLondon

                          Yeah nah

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                            @KiwiInLondon

                            Yeah nah

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                            KiwiInLondon
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                            @brodean he’s definitely better than Parker and Stodard, those no debate about that.

                            Ah Kui is a lock and was well beaten around the park by Haig this year in NPC this year. As an out and out six, one is clearly more suited

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                              @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @reprobate

                              I'll honestly be surprised if Sotutu makes the AB XV which is sad.

                              I think Haig has potential but anyone of Parker, Stodart, Finau, Ah Kuoi, Delaney, or Suafoa have just as much potential.

                              Haig is better than Parker, Stodart, Ah Kui, and Delaney. Finau, Suafoa, and Haig are the three with the most potential

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                              pakman
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                              @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @brodean said in All Blacks 2024:

                              @reprobate

                              I'll honestly be surprised if Sotutu makes the AB XV which is sad.

                              I think Haig has potential but anyone of Parker, Stodart, Finau, Ah Kuoi, Delaney, or Suafoa have just as much potential.

                              Haig is better than Parker, Stodart, Ah Kui, and Delaney. Finau, Suafoa, and Haig are the three with the most potential
                              Haven’t really seen enough of Haig to comment. Him Finau and Suafoa are the right (Kaino) size.

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                                pakman
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                                How did they compare for pace?

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                                  frugby
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                                  Oli Haig will play international rugby. Just depends if it is for the All Blacks or England. I think for the fact there is threat of him leaving, he could be fast-tracked so they can get a proper look at him.

                                  Thing I really like about him is he does the hard yards around the ruck, as well as offering skill in the wider channels. Also a good lineout target. As I have said before, once Cane leaves, more chance Sititi shuffles to either 7 or 8, leaving a gap.

                                  Finau hasn't taken the chance, and I feel like being able to do the hard yards around the ruck, and being a good lineout target are going to be key in whoever we mesh with Sititi.

                                  As Sititi has showed, right place, right time is often just as important as being good. I mean look at Proctor and Lakai - been bloody outstanding, but there are established guys parked in front of them.

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                                    Yeahtheboys
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                                    Cant wait to see Fihaki get his chance at 15, he’s really earned it

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                                      Yeahtheboys
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                                      Does anyone know if Ian Foster lost a Rugby Championship?

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                                        How did they compare for pace?

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                                        KiwiInLondon
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                                        @pakman Haig and Aku are both far quicker than they look

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                                          @pakman Haig and Aku are both far quicker than they look

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                                          pakman
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                                          @KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks 2024:

                                          @pakman Haig and Aku are both far quicker than they look

                                          Kaino was in 100m final at St. Kents. Winner was Joe Rocks.

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