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All Blacks EOYT

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    Ruben Love would have huge upside, what is his injury status?

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      Ruben Love would have huge upside, what is his injury status?

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      @SBW1 said in All Blacks EOYT:

      Ruben Love would have huge upside, what is his injury status?

      He was fit to play this weekend but was ‘rested’. A request from the AB’s. Read into that what you will.

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        I would imagine Plummer would be the one to miss out assuming Love is fit

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          That first Counties try was a thing of beauty

          How Razor can’t find a place for DP baffles me

          Roigard looked sharp. His double step offs for his long range try showed he’s fit

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            That first Counties try was a thing of beauty

            How Razor can’t find a place for DP baffles me

            Roigard looked sharp. His double step offs for his long range try showed he’s fit

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            @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks EOYT:

            How Razor can’t find a place for DP baffles me

            I agree

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              @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks EOYT:

              How Razor can’t find a place for DP baffles me

              I agree

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              @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks EOYT:

              @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks EOYT:

              How Razor can’t find a place for DP baffles me

              I agree

              The only explanation is that he didn’t play alongside his old man

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                At the moment Paps, Sititi and Savea looks an option.
                I'll be disappointed if they don't give JB-Proctor-Ioane a run (12-13-14). They need to try various options.

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                  @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks EOYT:

                  @Landers92 Have you got the Hollandaise Sauce?

                  Haha not bad from you.

                  Got tagged above earlier too for any other squad chat but haven’t heard a lot so far. Things seem tight lipped this far which leads me to believe there won’t be a lot/if any changes other than Roigard added.

                  Only thing I have been told is not to expect all 3 of Plummer, Perofeta and Love. Its expected only 2 of them will be named in the AB squad with the 1 missing out to be in the AB XV.

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                  @Landers92 said in All Blacks EOYT:

                  @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks EOYT:

                  @Landers92 Have you got the Hollandaise Sauce?

                  Haha not bad from you.

                  Got tagged above earlier too for any other squad chat but haven’t heard a lot so far. Things seem tight lipped this far which leads me to believe there won’t be a lot/if any changes other than Roigard added.

                  Only thing I have been told is not to expect all 3 of Plummer, Perofeta and Love. Its expected only 2 of them will be named in the AB squad with the 1 missing out to be in the AB XV.

                  LIFO?

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                  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                    That first Counties try was a thing of beauty

                    How Razor can’t find a place for DP baffles me

                    Roigard looked sharp. His double step offs for his long range try showed he’s fit

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                    @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks EOYT:

                    That first Counties try was a thing of beauty

                    How Razor can’t find a place for DP baffles me

                    Roigard looked sharp. His double step offs for his long range try showed he’s fit

                    Some great sleight of hand in the pass to him from Hoss.

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                      Roigard was sharp for counties eh. Reckon he could open up an avenue to cover ten and have better impact from the bench in the midfield/outside.

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                        @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks EOYT:

                        That first Counties try was a thing of beauty

                        How Razor can’t find a place for DP baffles me

                        Roigard looked sharp. His double step offs for his long range try showed he’s fit

                        Some great sleight of hand in the pass to him from Hoss.

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                        @pakman said in All Blacks EOYT:

                        @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks EOYT:

                        That first Counties try was a thing of beauty

                        How Razor can’t find a place for DP baffles me

                        Roigard looked sharp. His double step offs for his long range try showed he’s fit

                        Some great sleight of hand in the pass to him from Hoss.

                        I think Dalton does offer skills and power in attack ( especially at 6 4 and 113kg or whatever the official stats are ) but for whatever reason he hasn’t shown much at the highest level. Anyone care to guess why ?

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                          Great news about Fabian Holland: https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350441206/highlanders-lock-fabian-holland-jumps-all-blacks-frame-after-world-rugby

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                            @pakman said in All Blacks EOYT:

                            @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks EOYT:

                            That first Counties try was a thing of beauty

                            How Razor can’t find a place for DP baffles me

                            Roigard looked sharp. His double step offs for his long range try showed he’s fit

                            Some great sleight of hand in the pass to him from Hoss.

                            I think Dalton does offer skills and power in attack ( especially at 6 4 and 113kg or whatever the official stats are ) but for whatever reason he hasn’t shown much at the highest level. Anyone care to guess why ?

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                            @MN5

                            The role of the AB 7 is to be a workhorse in defense and secure the ball.

                            We did see some good running from him 2021 and 2022.

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                              Great news about Fabian Holland: https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350441206/highlanders-lock-fabian-holland-jumps-all-blacks-frame-after-world-rugby

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                              @sparky said in All Blacks EOYT:

                              Great news about Fabian Holland: https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/350441206/highlanders-lock-fabian-holland-jumps-all-blacks-frame-after-world-rugby

                              Have to say I’m gutted to find out the province Holland was born in was not Zeeland (it was Noord-Holland).

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                                Can't wait for Holland to get into the ABs so I can make some Dutch Oven references.

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                                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                Can't wait for Holland to get into the ABs so I can make some Dutch Oven references.

                                If razor doesn’t select him it’ll be a clear cut case of tall poppy syndrome.

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                                  Speaking of double dutch how big is his younger brother Quentin who apparently is a well built lock/6 himself?

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                                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                    Can't wait for Holland to get into the ABs so I can make some Dutch Oven references.

                                    If razor doesn’t select him it’ll be a clear cut case of tall poppy syndrome.

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                                    @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                    Can't wait for Holland to get into the ABs so I can make some Dutch Oven references.

                                    If razor doesn’t select him it’ll be a clear cut case of tall poppy syndrome.

                                    Word is he will be in AB XV

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                                      @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                      Can't wait for Holland to get into the ABs so I can make some Dutch Oven references.

                                      If razor doesn’t select him it’ll be a clear cut case of tall poppy syndrome.

                                      Word is he will be in AB XV

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                                      @Frank said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                      @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                      Can't wait for Holland to get into the ABs so I can make some Dutch Oven references.

                                      If razor doesn’t select him it’ll be a clear cut case of tall poppy syndrome.

                                      Word is he will be in AB XV

                                      Yeah I suppose promoting him straight to the ABs would require Dutch courage.

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                                        @Frank said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                        @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                        Can't wait for Holland to get into the ABs so I can make some Dutch Oven references.

                                        If razor doesn’t select him it’ll be a clear cut case of tall poppy syndrome.

                                        Word is he will be in AB XV

                                        Yeah I suppose promoting him straight to the ABs would require Dutch courage.

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                                        @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                        @Frank said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                        @Billy-Tell said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                        Can't wait for Holland to get into the ABs so I can make some Dutch Oven references.

                                        If razor doesn’t select him it’ll be a clear cut case of tall poppy syndrome.

                                        Word is he will be in AB XV

                                        Yeah I suppose promoting him straight to the ABs would require Dutch courage.

                                        He’ll be fabian in the XV.

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                                          I've compiled these stats from the following source (https://www.espn.com/rugby/scoreboard/_/league/242041)

                                          This was following a discussion in another thread regarding Perofeta/Plummer.

                                          Just some stats (yes they don't tell you the full picture etc etc) covering Dmac/Plummer/Perofeta and their super rugby season. (only using Perofetas games at 10)

                                          Try assists per game
                                          Dmac - 0.375
                                          Perofeta - 0.33
                                          Plummer - 0.27

                                          Metres made per carry
                                          Dmac - 6.1
                                          Perofeta - 6.1
                                          Plummer - 4.5

                                          Linebreaks made per carry
                                          Perofeta - 0.11
                                          Dmac - 0.07
                                          Plummer - 0.03

                                          Defenders beaten per carry
                                          Dmac - 0.36
                                          Perofeta - 0.26
                                          Plummer - 0.19

                                          Tackle %
                                          Plummer - 85%
                                          Perofeta - 83%
                                          Dmac - 75%

                                          Turnovers conceded per game
                                          Perofeta - 1.5
                                          Plummer - 1.2
                                          Dmac - 1.06

                                          Kick %
                                          Dmac - 85%
                                          Plummer - 74%
                                          Perofeta - 66%

                                          According to this (caveat that these are assumptions based on the statistics provided and do not guarantee anything)..

                                          Dmac is the best ball in hand with defenders beaten, creates the most for others, is the best kicker by quite a margin, and actually makes the least mistakes (turnovers) per game. He's also the worst tackler (not a horrible tackler but the worst out of the 3, pretty much average tackling percentage per NZ 10s this season).

                                          Perofeta is the worst kicker by far, makes the most mistakes (turnovers), decent tackler, but also very good ball in hand and the most effective at creating linebreaks.

                                          Plummer is the worst ball in hand by quite a margin, creates the least, is the best tackler, is a worse kicker and makes more mistakes than Dmac but is a better kicker and makes less mistakes than Perofeta.

                                          Perofeta/Plummer have the top tackling percentage per NZ 10s this season.

                                          This may be useless to people, stats miss many intangibles on the field etc. Just thought some of the data points would be interesting for some.

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