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    Samisoni was treated really shoddily by Foster. He was playing the absolute house down while Taylor was shitting the bed, and still couldn't get a decent run.
    Taylor clearly wasn't in the right head-space to play at the time, so in reality he was treated poorly too in my opinion.

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      Samisoni was treated really shoddily by Foster. He was playing the absolute house down while Taylor was shitting the bed, and still couldn't get a decent run.
      Taylor clearly wasn't in the right head-space to play at the time, so in reality he was treated poorly too in my opinion.

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      @reprobate said in All Blacks EOYT:

      Samisoni was treated really shoddily by Foster. He was playing the absolute house down while Taylor was shitting the bed, and still couldn't get a decent run.
      Taylor clearly wasn't in the right head-space to play at the time, so in reality he was treated poorly too in my opinion.

      Last year? My memory of last year, was Taylor being the comfortable best of a bad bunch. I think there was a bit of surprise when ST was named on the bench over Coles for the final?

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        @reprobate said in All Blacks EOYT:

        Samisoni was treated really shoddily by Foster. He was playing the absolute house down while Taylor was shitting the bed, and still couldn't get a decent run.
        Taylor clearly wasn't in the right head-space to play at the time, so in reality he was treated poorly too in my opinion.

        Last year? My memory of last year, was Taylor being the comfortable best of a bad bunch. I think there was a bit of surprise when ST was named on the bench over Coles for the final?

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        @frugby said in All Blacks EOYT:

        @reprobate said in All Blacks EOYT:

        Samisoni was treated really shoddily by Foster. He was playing the absolute house down while Taylor was shitting the bed, and still couldn't get a decent run.
        Taylor clearly wasn't in the right head-space to play at the time, so in reality he was treated poorly too in my opinion.

        Last year? My memory of last year, was Taylor being the comfortable best of a bad bunch. I think there was a bit of surprise when ST was named on the bench over Coles for the final?

        Taylor came back strong, but for a while he was playing terribly - must have been the year before.

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          Taylor was dire in 2022 but was in good form last year. Taukei'aho was also in good form last year but for whatever reason Foster preferred Taylor.

          Taukei'aho started this season very slowly for the Chiefs was in excellent form by the end of Super - only for injury to end his year.

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            Taylor was dire in 2022 but was in good form last year. Taukei'aho was also in good form last year but for whatever reason Foster preferred Taylor.

            Taukei'aho started this season very slowly for the Chiefs was in excellent form by the end of Super - only for injury to end his year.

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            @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks EOYT:

            Taukei'aho was also in good form last year but for whatever reason Foster preferred Taylor.

            Samisoni's 2023 form was nowhere near his 2022 form. Hopefully next year he can find his 2022 form.

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              Hope Samisoni can get back to 2022 form, he was exactly what we need.
              No mucking about, determined, no nonsense.

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                @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks EOYT:

                Taukei'aho was also in good form last year but for whatever reason Foster preferred Taylor.

                Samisoni's 2023 form was nowhere near his 2022 form. Hopefully next year he can find his 2022 form.

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                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks EOYT:

                @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks EOYT:

                Taukei'aho was also in good form last year but for whatever reason Foster preferred Taylor.

                Samisoni's 2023 form was nowhere near his 2022 form. Hopefully next year he can find his 2022 form.

                That's only because he was never given a proper chance to get going. He was good in Super Rugby then only started two Tests for the All Blacks - against Australia and Namibia.

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                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks EOYT:

                  @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks EOYT:

                  Taukei'aho was also in good form last year but for whatever reason Foster preferred Taylor.

                  Samisoni's 2023 form was nowhere near his 2022 form. Hopefully next year he can find his 2022 form.

                  That's only because he was never given a proper chance to get going. He was good in Super Rugby then only started two Tests for the All Blacks - against Australia and Namibia.

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                  @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks EOYT:

                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks EOYT:

                  @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks EOYT:

                  Taukei'aho was also in good form last year but for whatever reason Foster preferred Taylor.

                  Samisoni's 2023 form was nowhere near his 2022 form. Hopefully next year he can find his 2022 form.

                  That's only because he was never given a proper chance to get going. He was good in Super Rugby then only started two Tests for the All Blacks - against Australia and Namibia.

                  Yeah I think they were always keen to get Codie Taylor starting which they did at the end of 2022. In fairness, Taylor has come back strong after his form slump with the odd game here and there where he's had the yips throwing wise, but largely he's been very good in the last couple of years.

                  Taukeiaho didn't do anything wrong and was our best in 2022 by a fair way. I still don't mind him coming off the bench in the last 30 though and the rotation worked well I thought last year.

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                    Taylor's form this year has been really good. Would be very good for the ABs if ST comes back firing so CT can get subbed at about the 50 minute mark rather than after 70

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                      Taylor's form this year has been really good. Would be very good for the ABs if ST comes back firing so CT can get subbed at about the 50 minute mark rather than after 70

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                      @mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

                      Taylor's form this year has been really good. Would be very good for the ABs if ST comes back firing so CT can get subbed at about the 50 minute mark rather than after 70

                      As an Aumua fan it's bloody disappointing to see him still having the yips with his throwing, annoying because he has everything else required at test level. Unfortunately throwing is the bread and butter of a hooker so if he doesn't improve soon, he might be on the outer. If he can sort it though he will be a huge asset.

                      Definitely keen to see ST back in the frame though.

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                        Taylor is playing great - for me comfortably the pick of the veterans this year - but he won't be around forever. The one-two punch of the grunt of Samisoni and the explosive power of Asafo has huge potential over the next 6 years or so.

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                          Taylor will be the same age as Keven finished come this RWC, I think?

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                            @mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

                            Taylor's form this year has been really good. Would be very good for the ABs if ST comes back firing so CT can get subbed at about the 50 minute mark rather than after 70

                            As an Aumua fan it's bloody disappointing to see him still having the yips with his throwing, annoying because he has everything else required at test level. Unfortunately throwing is the bread and butter of a hooker so if he doesn't improve soon, he might be on the outer. If he can sort it though he will be a huge asset.

                            Definitely keen to see ST back in the frame though.

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                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

                            @mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

                            Taylor's form this year has been really good. Would be very good for the ABs if ST comes back firing so CT can get subbed at about the 50 minute mark rather than after 70

                            As an Aumua fan it's bloody disappointing to see him still having the yips with his throwing, annoying because he has everything else required at test level. Unfortunately throwing is the bread and butter of a hooker so if he doesn't improve soon, he might be on the outer. If he can sort it though he will be a huge asset.

                            Definitely keen to see ST back in the frame though.

                            It's his up and down form that's most puzzling/worrying. I'm sure he'd sorted his throwing for a decent period...was it last year?

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                              @Canes4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

                              @mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

                              Taylor's form this year has been really good. Would be very good for the ABs if ST comes back firing so CT can get subbed at about the 50 minute mark rather than after 70

                              As an Aumua fan it's bloody disappointing to see him still having the yips with his throwing, annoying because he has everything else required at test level. Unfortunately throwing is the bread and butter of a hooker so if he doesn't improve soon, he might be on the outer. If he can sort it though he will be a huge asset.

                              Definitely keen to see ST back in the frame though.

                              It's his up and down form that's most puzzling/worrying. I'm sure he'd sorted his throwing for a decent period...was it last year?

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                              @Bones said in All Blacks EOYT:

                              @Canes4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

                              @mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

                              Taylor's form this year has been really good. Would be very good for the ABs if ST comes back firing so CT can get subbed at about the 50 minute mark rather than after 70

                              As an Aumua fan it's bloody disappointing to see him still having the yips with his throwing, annoying because he has everything else required at test level. Unfortunately throwing is the bread and butter of a hooker so if he doesn't improve soon, he might be on the outer. If he can sort it though he will be a huge asset.

                              Definitely keen to see ST back in the frame though.

                              It's his up and down form that's most puzzling/worrying. I'm sure he'd sorted his throwing for a decent period...was it last year?

                              Yeah he was pretty solid for the Canes this year from memory. I think the issue for Aumua is getting more minutes under his belt, that's where we get to see the best of him. He was definitely better for the Canes as a starter VS coming off the bench behind Coles. But to get more mins he needs to improve his throwing, he can go long periods being really good and then periods where he's horrible. Definitely a work on for him.

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                                @Bones said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                @Canes4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                Taylor's form this year has been really good. Would be very good for the ABs if ST comes back firing so CT can get subbed at about the 50 minute mark rather than after 70

                                As an Aumua fan it's bloody disappointing to see him still having the yips with his throwing, annoying because he has everything else required at test level. Unfortunately throwing is the bread and butter of a hooker so if he doesn't improve soon, he might be on the outer. If he can sort it though he will be a huge asset.

                                Definitely keen to see ST back in the frame though.

                                It's his up and down form that's most puzzling/worrying. I'm sure he'd sorted his throwing for a decent period...was it last year?

                                Yeah he was pretty solid for the Canes this year from memory. I think the issue for Aumua is getting more minutes under his belt, that's where we get to see the best of him. He was definitely better for the Canes as a starter VS coming off the bench behind Coles. But to get more mins he needs to improve his throwing, he can go long periods being really good and then periods where he's horrible. Definitely a work on for him.

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                                    What really is the point of these press conferences if they are not going to tell us anything interesting.
                                    Just same dribble.
                                    Surely they could give some insights without giving away the gameplan?

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                                      @Crazy-Horse like I said, a parent wouldn't be a loose tie for me, I'm pretty sure millions of others would share that view.

                                      Samoa, Tonga, etc would drop well down the rugby rankings if that wasn't the case too.

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                                      @Bones My old man was an Aussie so that's a big fat NO for me.

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                                        @Bones My old man was an Aussie so that's a big fat NO for me.

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                                        @dogmeat said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                        @Bones My old man was an Aussie so that's a big fat NO for me.

                                        We already knew that without you saying bro.

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                                          @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                          Taukei'aho was also in good form last year but for whatever reason Foster preferred Taylor.

                                          Samisoni's 2023 form was nowhere near his 2022 form. Hopefully next year he can find his 2022 form.

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                                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                          @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks EOYT:

                                          Taukei'aho was also in good form last year but for whatever reason Foster preferred Taylor.

                                          Samisoni's 2023 form was nowhere near his 2022 form. Hopefully next year he can find his 2022 form.

                                          Yep. Can't rewrite history, he went off the boil - really struggled against the Boks. Probably an indication of just how well Codie Taylor has played this year.

                                          I'd say he is comfortably All Blacks player of the year... Tupou Vaa'i (?) a distant second?

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