The Haka
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I must admit too being a little torn on the subject of the Haka. On the one hand I like the spectacle, love the tradition of the Haka going back all those years too. It was a real something to look forward to due to the rarity of seeing it, particularly first hand. I would hate to see it stopped. On the other hand it does seem to have become a little precious, various factions in NZ (and beyond) get all frothy when it is mentioned or it is suggested it has had its time, we now have rules about what can and can't be done in response. The thing itself has become highly choreographed and of course we have several versions.
Much of this "on the other hand" stuff has, for me, reduced the enjoyment of the spectacle and I yearn for earlier times when we had Ka Mate, it was watched with respect by the opposition, applauded by the crowd and we then got on with the game.
@Catogrande said in The Haka:
I must admit too being a little torn on the subject of the Haka. On the one hand I like the spectacle, love the tradition of the Haka going back all those years too. It was a real something to look forward to due to the rarity of seeing it, particularly first hand. I would hate to see it stopped. On the other hand it does seem to have become a little precious, various factions in NZ (and beyond) get all frothy when it is mentioned or it is suggested it has had its time, we now have rules about what can and can't be done in response. The thing itself has become highly choreographed and of course we have several versions.
Much of this "on the other hand" stuff has, for me, reduced the enjoyment of the spectacle and I yearn for earlier times when we had Ka Mate, it was watched with respect by the opposition, applauded by the crowd and we then got on with the game.
I really hate the rules that WR put around how teams respond to it. That 100% goes against the idea of the Haka, if you watch two PI teams play they do it at the same time as that's the idea, a challenge set down to each other. Making teams that don't do a Haka or something similar stand awkwardly BEHIND the halfway line is so dumb. I yearn for the days of teams coming up with their own challenge, e.g. starting quite far back and then walking up towards it to face it head on - that shit is epic. It has definitely become highly commercialised and choreographed now which takes away from the spectacle and the challenge it is meant to be.
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@Machpants said in The Haka:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/sport/532540/haka-gate-english-prop-joe-marler-apologises-to-new-zealand
Why the hell did he need to apologise? That bothers me.
@Crazy-Horse said in The Haka:
@Machpants said in The Haka:
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/sport/532540/haka-gate-english-prop-joe-marler-apologises-to-new-zealand
Why the hell did he need to apologise? That bothers me.
Save that for the grumpy old men thread.
We new age they/thems demand apologies for even potential offence caused by Marlers white privilege. And with that apology I want reparations. Marler should use his standing and get on board with real clicktivism
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@scribe Joe likes to pretend he's a hard man, but did he ever play on with one testicle torn open and hanging loose?
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Apparently, of the 13 most popular videos on World Rugby's YouTube channel, 10 are hakas.
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And the four most popular videos on the All Blacks YouTube channel are hakas:
And the four most popular videos on the All Balxks YouTube channel are hakas:
Careful, you nearly spelt that the All Balls YouTube Channel...
We don't want any of those professional media types trawling this site reveal any hawt Polish identitites..
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@scribe Joe likes to pretend he's a hard man, but did he ever play on with one testicle torn open and hanging loose?
@scribe Joe likes to pretend he's a hard man, but did he ever play on with one testicle torn open and hanging loose?
You could say that about Bakkies Botha, Brad Thorn and Martin Johnson too.
Thereās only one Buck.
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Marler just blew his post playing career
Pussy
@MiketheSnow My guess is that someone very senior within the RFU or the England team set-up told him to apologise.
It would be slightly happier times if most people were allowed to say what they think and well-intention folk saved their anger for the actual evil and nasty shit in the world.
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@Catogrande said in The Haka:
@scribe Joe likes to pretend he's a hard man, but did he ever play on with one testicle torn open and hanging loose?
You could say that about Bakkies Botha, Brad Thorn and Martin Johnson too.
Thereās only one Buck.
I had a ridiculous discussion with a Leeds Rhinos bloke where said League friend insisted, absolutely insisted, that League players were much, much harder men than Union.
I sent him a 2-word text: Buck Nantes
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@Catogrande said in The Haka:
@scribe Joe likes to pretend he's a hard man, but did he ever play on with one testicle torn open and hanging loose?
You could say that about Bakkies Botha, Brad Thorn and Martin Johnson too.
Thereās only one Buck.
I had a ridiculous discussion with a Leeds Rhinos bloke where said League friend insisted, absolutely insisted, that League players were much, much harder men than Union.
I sent him a 2-word text: Buck Nantes
@Victor-Meldrew said in The Haka:
@Catogrande said in The Haka:
@scribe Joe likes to pretend he's a hard man, but did he ever play on with one testicle torn open and hanging loose?
You could say that about Bakkies Botha, Brad Thorn and Martin Johnson too.
Thereās only one Buck.
I had a ridiculous discussion with a Leeds Rhinos bloke where said League friend insisted, absolutely insisted, that League players were much, much harder men than Union.
I sent him a 2-word text: Buck Nantes
Having watched and played both codes, both codes have their tough, tough men.
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A few years ago I was in a long slow queue to get into Twix. All the fans around me were worried about missing the haka.
3 years ago I was in hospitality at Twickenham. It was unanimous at ours and other tables about looking forward to seeing the haka.
Everybody is welcome to their opinion. But facts are facts, the large majority want to see it.
I donāt care for it myself and think the critics have valid points. But they donāt speak for the masses.
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Surprised this one only has 265k views. One of the all time greats
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Marler got some very real threats apparently which is why he backed down.
Disappointing to hear.
@MajorRage said in The Haka:
Marler got some very real threats apparently which is why he backed down.
Disappointing to hear.
That's quite pathetic on the part of the people whose arses are chapped
'I'm offended', so fucking what
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Marler got some very real threats apparently which is why he backed down.
Disappointing to hear.
@MajorRage said in The Haka:
Marler got some very real threats apparently which is why he backed down.
Disappointing to hear.
Oh, FFS. Hope he reports these fluffybunnies to the police.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in The Haka:
@Catogrande said in The Haka:
@scribe Joe likes to pretend he's a hard man, but did he ever play on with one testicle torn open and hanging loose?
You could say that about Bakkies Botha, Brad Thorn and Martin Johnson too.
Thereās only one Buck.
I had a ridiculous discussion with a Leeds Rhinos bloke where said League friend insisted, absolutely insisted, that League players were much, much harder men than Union.
I sent him a 2-word text: Buck Nantes
Having watched and played both codes, both codes have their tough, tough men.
@MiketheSnow said in The Haka:
@Victor-Meldrew said in The Haka:
@Catogrande said in The Haka:
@scribe Joe likes to pretend he's a hard man, but did he ever play on with one testicle torn open and hanging loose?
You could say that about Bakkies Botha, Brad Thorn and Martin Johnson too.
Thereās only one Buck.
I had a ridiculous discussion with a Leeds Rhinos bloke where said League friend insisted, absolutely insisted, that League players were much, much harder men than Union.
I sent him a 2-word text: Buck Nantes
Having watched and played both codes, both codes have their tough, tough men.
Different games with different skill sets - and in NZ's case, different haka.
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Marler got some very real threats apparently which is why he backed down.
Disappointing to hear.
@MajorRage ANYTHING said against the Haka or any aspect of Maori culture is called out on social media as racist or disrespectful...everyone, everywhere apparently is meant to know what it means in Maori culture, while at the same time, not to use it inappropriately, even if you think it is for good.
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@MajorRage ANYTHING said against the Haka or any aspect of Maori culture is called out on social media as racist or disrespectful...everyone, everywhere apparently is meant to know what it means in Maori culture, while at the same time, not to use it inappropriately, even if you think it is for good.
@taniwharugby white appropriation.
