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@bones said in All Blacks MOTM vs Aus I:

Whitelock, Paps, Smith.

May rewatch but they seemed to be the only ones without a glaring mistake.

Penalty in front of the ref, didn't see a mistake, unnecessary forward pass.. ah oops answered. Anyway, apart from mistakes, good selection although I thought Sam came more into the fore later on. Nugget was mostly excellent, again but I worry about our replacements..

I have another apology for the AB coaches, I thought in an earlier Bledisloe the coaches had the bench replacement timing all wrong. Maybe, but it is clear that a bigger issue is, the AB bench just isn't of the same calibre.

@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

@nta said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

@pakman said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

@chris said in All Blacks vs Wallabies Bledisloe 1 Eden Park 7th Aug:

Smashed in the scrum not good by the subs

Bell monstered Ta’avao.

Having Matt Philip behind him helps. I've only just reached that point.

Having just rewatched it may be Ta'avao has been a bit hard done by. First scrum after Patty T on and Whitelock swaps sides. PT packed very high on Karl, and looks like Sam slipped off Ta'avao, who then has whole Wallaby pack driving through him.
Poor cohesion by Black pack, whereas Wallaby changes seem to have been upgrade.

Ta'avao did Ok at previous scrum with Codie and BBBR still on, although scrum did collapse on his side.

@akan004 said in Frizell assaults woman:

Hopefully the UK won't let him in. Don't want him to be on tour with the ABs.

UK will, he doesn't have a criminal record does he?

Havili, Reece and Ioane.

Plenty of candidates out there tbh.

@bovidae said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:

@rapido said in All Blacks vs Fiji 2:

O8s there something wrong with old stand at Waikato Stadium? Why was it not used?

@WillieTheWaiter may be able to tell us.

oh yep maybe - does need some earthquake strengthening work done to bring it up to code - didn't think about that.. just assumed they didn't think it would get that big of a crowd.

@bovidae said in All Blacks MOTM v Fiji:

@old-samurai-jack said in All Blacks MOTM v Fiji:

Coles, Whitelock, and Havili.

I would have voted for Havili as well but a YC is always a strike against a player in my book. So BBBR as the third choice by default.

I didnt choose him here but I thought JB was solid and BB good (apart from conversions).

@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@mn5 said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@crazy-horse said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@nostrildamus said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

@bones said in All Blacks vs Fiji:

Oh ok yeah you're spot on. GCT and Boshier going overseas are the nails in Foster's coffin,

Wow. That''s not what I said, man. On the smelling salts again?

Are you jailbreak?

nope but you replied to me.

Because you weirdly replied to my reply to him, and I stand by my reply to him.

I thought this was a forum.

Happy for you to fill me in on how GCT and Boshier would have saved us from our catastrophic year this year though.

My point was it is not a fair comparision because there isn't the depth there this year (and actually Josh Blackie, if that is who you mean, was a gold medalist and Junior AB so could play a bit. GCT I'd argue, has been a solid player for the blues even if currently ineligible, I don't think that was a crazy suggestion, it is not as if Patty T suddenly became lethargic in tests when he started).
My second point is if you move the goalposts there won't be a fair discussion. I'm guessing @Jailbreak7 was saying other players should have been tried, and those going overseas were probably let down a tad early.
But you appear to be conflating and extrapolating wildly, focusing on just two of the points @Jailbreak7 made, not the entire post (application, muscle, inventiveness, succession plan, strategically unprepared for NH coaching/experience)...
Yup, you boiled all that down to GCT and Boshier. He/she said that but a helluva lot more.
Since you only want a personal to and fro with a "weird" fragment of @Jailbreak7 posts I'll leave you to your strawman solipsism.
My point, I see, was made by @MN5 but with more subtlety. Kudos.

I am not sure I have ever read the word 'solipsism' on the Fern before.

I’m even more surprised a point I made was described as “subtle”

I've got you on ignore so must have missed what that point was. Even more subtle.

Got me on ignore and then quotes me.

Yeah that’s real choice internetting there bro.

Sorry missed that, got you on ignore.

@no-quarter said in All Blacks MOTM v Tonga:

Guys, for fuck sake, it's Rieko, not Reiko

Sorry, but I'm a bit dyslexic, KO?

(I'll get my coat)

@arhs said in NZ Maori v Manu Samoa II:

Falealii and the Samoan loosies were also impressive in my view. Fomai superb throughout

The Samoan loosies were good. I think they were helped a bit by the Maori selection though. Four locks in the 23 and no specialist loose forward cover. The player they could least afford to get injured was Harmon.. so of course that's what happened

It's strange to think back 2-3 years ago when the Maori were struggling to find any locks. Now they don't know who to leave out

@bovidae said in All Blacks v Tonga:

Some background info on the Tongan team.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/international/125615499/international-men-of-mystery--just-who-are-these-tongans-facing-the-all-blacks

The loose head prop was playing for Huntly in the Waikato lower grades a few years ago before he moved to a premier side.

@nzzp

Well that one completely passed me by. I didn't really get to read the sordid and gory details of sex in public toilets, I guess.

It looks like Jonathan Taumateine has joined the Samoa squad:

@old-samurai-jack said in AB left wing:

The comments on here about Bridge are ridiculous. He has scored tries for the ABs that young fellas like Clarke (a fern favourite) could only dream of at this stage.

Against Japan.

There was a Ba Bas match or a possible v probables in 91 , Jones was 7 playing against NZ top players and he in the first half played at a level of freakyness - I remember commentators saying they had never seen anything like it.
I watched many a 80's Auckland match and Jones was the man, he also was part of the most in sync loose forward trio with AJ and Zinny. Ahead of them a brutal front 5.
MJ was a freak - someone mentioned height but he was a main lineout target even before lifting due to his athleticism.
I agree with the ...I would pay to watch Jones but want McCaw in a WC final quote

@rancid-schnitzel said in Foster resigns!!!!:

Just saw this:

1 April 2021: Breaking news
Allblack coach resigns
New Zealand rugby has been rocked by the sudden and unexpected resignation of national team coach Ian Foster. Governing body New Zealand Rugby has called an emergency board meeting to discuss his replacement. With the first Allblacks game of the season only months away, the matter will be of one of major urgency.

Potential candidates include Crusaders coach Scott Robertsen and former Lions coach Warren Fatland, however it is understood that Foster’s assistant and fan favourite Scott Mcleod is willing to step into the breach at short notice.

The reason for Foster’s sudden departure is unknown. Speculation has been rife on social media. However the general consensus appears to be that he is a fat, KFC munching muppet who should never have gotten the job in the first place and either came to that realisation or suffered a cardiac arrest because he is a fat, KFC munching muppet.

Whatever the reason, Allblack fans both in New Zealand and around the world are rejoicing and looking forward to a new era of logical selections, a winning game plan and a coach who doesn’t look like he swallowed a pig.

Ahhh if only this was true 😢

@sparky said in Dan Carter hanging up his boots ..:

@nostrildamus Always thought Anton Oliver with his big words would end up at Oxford. More surprising to see DC there.

He did

On Schmidt joining AB selection panel, and where it will take him, I have just finished Steve Hansen's book, he's pretty good mates with Schmidt. He talks of mentions how much trouble Schmidt was having with the pressure while coaching Ireland (had read that before) and though he was NZR's preferred choice to take AB's job he needed a break away. Hope he just takes it easy coming into whatever roles he does and builds from there.

That's just a promotional mashup of names with vague justifications.

Agree that picking a definitive team is quite difficult given the swinging nature of performances across the tourney.

JB at 15 is fairly clear.
Kerevi also.
Fair argument for Cooper given the impact he brought to the team.

Money money money, must be funny, in a rich man's world

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